Will the partisan bickering stop after Sundays Healthcare vote?

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Will the partisan war of words end after Sundays vote?

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GuitarDaddy

GuitarDaddy

Lifer
Nov 9, 2004
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This has been more contentious than a presidential election year! I'm sure ready for this debacle to be over so we can move on and talk about other important issues.

But because of the stark differences in opinion and passionate objections there are likely to be legal challenges and people who just won't give up the fight regardless of how the vote comes out Sunday.

Do you think the majority of the partisan war of words will be over come Sunday with just a fading grumble, or will the arguments carry on and perhaps grow more intense?
 
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OCGuy

Lifer
Jul 12, 2000
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Who needs bi-partisan bickering when you have bickering within the (D) party alone?

The real liberals understand that this PoS bill is a handout to the insurance companies.

The more centrist democrats (like on this forum) dont really care that there is no Public option, they are just going to be happy that a bill passes, thinking that it will make Obama appear to have done something.
 
rudder

rudder

Lifer
Nov 9, 2000
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It won't end over this issue. Something this big that will affect every American, their children and grandchildren, and something that a majority of people do not want... why should the bickering stop? I think all the lawsuits are going to get ugly and will prevent the government from enacting any type of effective healthcare reform. Forget about all the other issues going on in the world and across the nation.
 
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JeffreyLebowski

Lifer
Aug 23, 2000
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Saying the partisan bickering will stop after this vote is like saying Rosie O'donnel will get thin by not eating ice cream. Hint she'll still be fat because she eats other stuff.
The bickering on the healthcare issue will continue for ages, and partisan bickering will happen on other issues as well.

Bill passes. Repubs will bitch and complain and carry on how this will destroy our economy. The Dems will say OHH IN YOUR FACE. SUCK IT BITCHES!!!! ect.
Bill fails. Dems will bitch and complain and carry on on how all the poor people will die in the streets and our medical costs will sky rocket so only the rich can afford to live.
The Repubs will say OHHH IN YOUR FACE. SUCK IT BITCHES!!! ect.
 
boomerang

boomerang

Lifer
Jun 19, 2000
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I don't see why. The next item up on the agenda is amnesty for illegals. Schumer and Lindsey Graham are spearheading it.
 
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Gonad the Barbarian

Lifer
Oct 16, 1999
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It's pretty much stopped now given the Rep's shift to "wait until November" whining. Did Boehner schedule his little speech just to give Fox News something to run instead of Obama's?
 
ProfJohn

ProfJohn

Lifer
Jul 28, 2006
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What vote???

Unless things change the Dems are going to try and pass the bill without having a real vote on the bill.
 
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woolfe9999

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Mar 28, 2005
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ProfJohn said:
What vote???

Unless things change the Dems are going to try and pass the bill without having a real vote on the bill.
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Fail. There will be a vote on both the reconciliation bill and the core bill. Deem and pass is really just a cosmetic procedure, more form than substance. The repubs have used it over 200 times, and I can't recall anyone saying it wasn't a real vote on any of those occasions.

Anyway, yeah, the partisan bickering will stop when hell freezes over.

- wolf
 
ProfJohn

ProfJohn

Lifer
Jul 28, 2006
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When have the Reps used it to pass a $1 trillion bill??


If this bill is as great as everyone claims it is then why not have a full vote on it??
 
IndyColtsFan

IndyColtsFan

Lifer
Sep 22, 2007
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No, it will never stop. The PoS bill will pass, the Democrats will take credit, and then in several years, when everyone realizes what a huge mistake it was, the Democrats will find ways to blame the Republicans.
 
shira

shira

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Jan 12, 2005
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OCGuy said:
Who needs bi-partisan bickering when you have bickering within the (D) party alone?

The real liberals understand that this PoS bill is a handout to the insurance companies.

The more centrist democrats (like on this forum) dont really care that there is no Public option, they are just going to be happy that a bill passes, thinking that it will make Obama appear to have done something.
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Danube

Danube

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Dec 10, 2009
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NY Times said Obama would use executive orders to advance ALL portions of his scheme - erm - plan. Next Slim is going to ram immigration, then probably some cap and trade scam via EPA - then maybe the civilian security force equal to military he said he wanted.

Clearly the strife is just heating up and not close to going away. The loyalists who blocked revolution and slavery defenders who broke the union now have company with Barack Obama and his useful dopes.
 
zinfamous

zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
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lolno.

polarizing politics began a new long descent when Bush took over, and it seems it has only gotten worse since then.

I'm tired of voting-in children to these offices. On both sides.
 
zinfamous

zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
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ProfJohn said:
Without all us rich Republicans who would pay the countries bills??

You'd be left with a bunch of poor people, academics and trust funders.
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Buffet and Gates tend to have what you would call "communist pinko lefty" ideas when it comes to how they would prefer to spend their money.

They're pretty rich.
 
boomerang

boomerang

Lifer
Jun 19, 2000
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Danube said:
NY Times said Obama would use executive orders to advance ALL portions of his scheme - erm - plan. Next Slim is going to ram immigration, then probably some cap and trade scam via EPA - then maybe the civilian security force equal to military he said he wanted.

Clearly the strife is just heating up and not close to going away. The loyalists who blocked revolution and slavery defenders who broke the union now have company with Barack Obama and his useful dopes.
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The one I bolded is the one that has to be stopped at any cost.
 
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woolfe9999

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Mar 28, 2005
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ProfJohn said:
When have the Reps used it to pass a $1 trillion bill??


If this bill is as great as everyone claims it is then why not have a full vote on it??
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What difference does the size of the bill make in assessing whether it is a valid procedure? I have never understood this argument, not when applied to either reconciliation or deem and pass. Either the procedures are constitutional and legal (and/or ethical), or they aren't. Deem and pass isn't a "real vote" when it's done for a repub bill that may be a smaller bill but somehow a phoney vote if it's done for a large dem bill. This is a totally illogical argument.

- wolf
 
theeedude

theeedude

Lifer
Feb 5, 2006
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It's on Sunday? Awesome :)
I guess Republicans going to campaign on rolling back health care reform.
Vote for me, and I'll let insurers drop you for preexisting conditions :)
 
her209

her209

No Lifer
Oct 11, 2000
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senseamp said:
It's on Sunday? Awesome :)
I guess Republicans going to campaign on rolling back health care reform.
Vote for me, and I'll let insurers drop you for preexisting conditions :)
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While the Republicans are campaigning on rolling back health care reform, the Dems will be campaigning on job creation and the economy.
 
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