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Will the 7850 make the stuff of legend?

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Piano Man said:
....looks in legendary GPU thread. Sees no mention of 3dfx. Feels older than everyone else.
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It doesn't make my list because I wasn't much into PC gaming at that time. I was still in love of my Dreamcast. 🙂 But a coworker claimed he had two 12MB Voodoo 2's in SLI. Probably a pretty crazy performer at that time. 😀
 
Love my 7950, but as people have said, I don't think we can call any card a legend until maybe two more generations of cards passes by. If by some miracle they blow these cards out of the water, then everybody who paid $300 should have passed it by. If they don't make many improvements, are bad overclockers, or there are other issues with them, then this generation was money well spent.
 
This round goes to the 670. It kept up with AMD's flagship part even though it is a midrange chip and cost much less. If you look at the steam survey I think everyone agrees as it is outselling any other 7 series card. The 6 series is easily the best chip since the 8800.
 
Siberian said:
This round goes to the 670. It kept up with AMD's flagship part even though it is a midrange chip and cost much less. If you look at the steam survey I think everyone agrees as it is outselling any other 7 series card. The 6 series is easily the best chip since the 8800.
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The 670 was awesome when it was released. Keeping up with not only it's competitor the 7950, but also with the 7970 and 680. Now the same can't be said. It costs $100+ more than the 7950, doesn't overclock as well, and overall has begun to fall behind in performance. Comparing the top cards from the market now shows the 7970 is significantly ahead of its competitor, not only in performance, but also in price. If this question were asked three months ago, you would have the right answer, but currently I disagree. For this generation, AMD is winning.
 
Siberian said:
This round goes to the 670. It kept up with AMD's flagship part even though it is a midrange chip and cost much less. If you look at the steam survey I think everyone agrees as it is outselling any other 7 series card. The 6 series is easily the best chip since the 8800.
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The GTX670 is now slower and more expensive than the 7970. It was a good card when released, no doubt, but it can't even claim to be a good buy now, much less a legendary card.
 
Siberian said:
This round goes to the 670. It kept up with AMD's flagship part even though it is a midrange chip and cost much less. If you look at the steam survey I think everyone agrees as it is outselling any other 7 series card. The 6 series is easily the best chip since the 8800.
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The 670 has already been surpassed. The 7950 is a better value, by far.
 
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/Catalyst_12.11_Performance/1.html

heres a good benchmark between nvidia and ati post 12.11 drivers... take note that they did not test with the new 310.33 "performance drivers" the stock 7950 is now equal to a 670 (idk if this is the boost edition or not) same goes with the 7970 (the ghz edition wins performance crown) so in terms of value/performance AMD has taken the elad back... also i consider the boost and ghz edition cards to be "overclocked" cards now when we OC the nvidia cards... things start to get a little blurry.
 
Siberian said:
This round goes to the 670. It kept up with AMD's flagship part even though it is a midrange chip and cost much less. If you look at the steam survey I think everyone agrees as it is outselling any other 7 series card. The 6 series is easily the best chip since the 8800.
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Just as the GTX 460's release pricing started reversing the price gouging for the 5000 series, the 670 started the same with the 7000 series, but there's nothing special about either besides that. As has already been pointed out, it's currently not price/performance competitive. It was a standout at launch but AMD's price cuts have obliterated that.
$330 AR GTX 670 just doesn't look very good against a $285 AR 7950 that comes with FarCry 3, Sleeping Dogs, and Hitman.
 
SlowSpyder said:
The GTX670 is now slower and more expensive than the 7970. It was a good card when released, no doubt, but it can't even claim to be a good buy now, much less a legendary card.
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1. it was intended as a direct competitor against the 7950 but because AMD cant get any good driver performance out of their cards nvidia was able to capitalize with the 600 series

2. As of now the 670 and 7950 trade blows with each other... again... look at the benchmarks

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/Catalyst_12.11_Performance/1.html

3. although the price of the 670 is marginally higher than the 7950 we are now starting to see it go down from 400 to the 370 range...

4.overclock ability is should not be a deciding factor for buying cards since its a lottery draw...

im not saying its legendary... all im saying is that its not that bad of a card
 
Siberian said:
A midrange chip that capatured the performance crown from a much larger more expensive part. I don't think that has ever happened. If anything the GK104 may be the most impressive chip ever.
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How is it midranged when there's nothing above it and it isn't priced with the 7800's?
Nvidia's internal naming conventions do not designate what is "midrange."
 
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I think the 460 and 5870 will be looked back as "legendary" cards a couple years from now. The 460 for its value, and the 5870 for its performance & longevity.

It's hard to claim any current gen cards as being legendary. Most were released too high and have only recently become good values.
 
RaistlinZ said:
I think the 460 and 5870 will be looked back as "legendary" cards a couple years from now. The 460 for its value, and the 5870 for its performance & longevity.

It's hard to claim any current gen cards as being legendary. Most were released too high and have only recently become good values.
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The 5870 was slower than a 480.
 
7850 sucks.

There are 2 cards on the market out there better than anything for the $. Guess what they are both by the king... AMD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

HD 7950 - THE GOAT.

HD 7870 - UNBEATABLE FOR THE PRICE.

660ti blows compared to the 7870 and is more expensive.

670 shouldn't even be considered because the 7950 is cheaper and way better and way better looking.

Nvidia geforce sucks. AMD all the way suckers.

Since the vast majority of your posts have been trolling, let's accelerate this process. 2 weeks off for trolling. You're on the fast track out of here unless you change your ways. -Admin DrPizza
 
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For a card to gain legendary status, I think it has to be first to market. Meaning beat your competitor with a new DirectX GPU, node shrink, or combination. G80 was an epic ass kicking for sure, although partly because ATI was lost in the wilderness. Besides the original Voodoo, I still think the 9700Pro is the best card ever released, you can still play some games on it.
 
AnandThenMan said:
For a card to gain legendary status, I think it has to be first to market. Meaning beat your competitor with a new DirectX GPU, node shrink, or combination. G80 was an epic ass kicking for sure, although partly because ATI was lost in the wilderness. Besides the original Voodoo, I still think the 9700Pro is the best card ever released, you can still play some games on it.
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yeah for a gpu to be termed legend it must be the unquestionably best GPU of the generation at that time. R300 based Radeon 9700 Pro, G80 based 8800 GTX, G92 based 8800 GT qualify easily for that. Fermi was actually tainted by its initial problems with heat and time to market . But as you can see with the GTX 480 performance in DX11 games today its one heck of a GPU.

Of the current GPUs there is no legend. But the HD 7950 boost is a very good GPU for the price and with the latest drivers it beats GTX 670 when both cards are overclocked.
 
While I think the 7850 is the best value gaming card this year, it's not legendary. More like the gtx-460, good bang/$. With it's O/C'ing ability, the 256bit bus, and 2gig of RAM it should have pretty long legs, though.
 
Siberian said:
The 5870 was slower than a 480.
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But it was significantly cheaper than the 480, less power hungry...

Funny, because the 680 is slower than the 7970 ghz ed... and by your logic, the 7970 should be the better card because the 680 is slower. the 7970 shares with the 480 the same power hunger, and yet the same performance gains.
 
Also the 480 came out way later than the 5870. Money spent on a 5870 in September of 2009 is still good today, and it still runs new releases at 1920 on High or Ultra w/o AA. Sure the same can be said of the 480, but you have to change the date to March of 2010 - a full 6 months later.
 
Siberian said:
The 5870 was slower than a 480.
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Not by as much as would be expected considering that GTX480 came out six months later. Its a lot like when the Radeon 2900xt came out and just completely underwhelmed compared to the 8800GTX. The 8800 was even more dominant since the 2900 couldn't match it, but given the GTX480's appetite and noise, combined with coming out a half year after the 5870 was launched, it similarly underwhelmed.
 
skipsneeky2 said:
Pc gamers have always had their most popular favorite cards,like the 9700 pro and the 8800gtx for example,or perhaps a bang for buck that blew away the competition.

Will the 7850 make the list of the dreams or be another forgotten card in a sea of has beens?

The 7850 overclocks,the performance to power consumption seems fair and its price for performance currently seems unrivaled...i love nostalgia and perhaps 10 years from now this could fall under many gamers fan favorites.
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8800 gt >>>>>>>>>>>>> 8800 gtx on the legendary scale.
 
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