Will Surface pro be able to run Wow or Sc2? (Playable)

[Lyfer]

I'm in the market for an ultrabook.

 

[badb0y]

Why not buy an ultrabook then I really doubt you'll have an enjoyable experience playing WoW on a touch screen.

 

[lopri]

~ 30 FPS medium setting if CPU doesn't bottleneck much. My biggest concern would be heat-related throttling, though.

 

[Lyfer]

Why not buy an ultrabook then I really doubt you'll have an enjoyable experience playing WoW on a touch screen.

Noticed specs was ivybridge with 4000 igp. Figured it may run these games at low-med details at low res. I really like the form factor of the surface.

 

[dagamer34]

It'll likely play whatever a MacBook Air can play in Boot Camp assuming it's the same 17W CPU and the GPU clocks are the same.

 

[jav3]

Why not just get a Macbook air? I have an 11" one that will play WoW. To me, it's just a portable as a tablet and much more usable.

Jeff

 

[dagamer34]

Why not just get a Macbook air? I have an 11" one that will play WoW. To me, it's just a portable as a tablet and much more usable.

Jeff

Probably because wants a tablet, or wants a higher DPI screen, or wants Windows. "Get a Mac" is not a universal recommendation.

 

[Chiropteran]

Both should be playable with settings turned down, but neither will get solid 60 fps.

Why not just get a Macbook air? I have an 11" one that will play WoW. To me, it's just a portable as a tablet and much more usable.

Probably because despite how ridiculously overpriced the surface pro is, it's still a better value than any Apple product.

 

[Pia]

Why not buy an ultrabook then I really doubt you'll have an enjoyable experience playing WoW on a touch screen.

I really doubt you have an enjoyable experience playing WoW on an ultrabook touchpad.

Oh wait - could it be that it's possible to connect a mouse to either of these devices?

 

[Pia]

Probably because despite how ridiculously overpriced the surface pro is, it's still a better value than any Apple product.

Surface Pro is not overpriced. If you know a better value high resolution x86 tablet with digitizer, please point it out. I'll probably buy one of the devices in this class as soon as they start shipping with 10W Haswell.

 

[Chiropteran]

Surface Pro is not overpriced. If you know a better value high resolution x86 tablet with digitizer, please point it out. I'll probably buy one of the devices in this class as soon as they start shipping with 10W Haswell.

I heard the same story when ARM based tablets were brand new and the Xoom was ~$700. Just because it's new and somewhat unique doesn't mean it's not overpriced. A couple years later tablets were selling for $200, with superior specs.

Wait a few years and there will be feature-identical devices at half the price. The surface is overpriced.

 

[Ravynmagi]

I heard the same story when ARM based tablets were brand new and the Xoom was ~$700. Just because it's new and somewhat unique doesn't mean it's not overpriced. A couple years later tablets were selling for $200, with superior specs.

Wait a few years and there will be feature-identical devices at half the price. The surface is overpriced.

The first Xoom was offered with 4G, no wifi only model. That is why it's price was high. And the Xoom was overpriced and a failure. So probably not the best of examples.

 

[dguy6789]

Surface RT is overpriced. Looking at everything else on the market now and the specs of the Surface Pro, it definitely gives the impression of being overpriced.

 

[Chiropteran]

The first Xoom was offered with 4G, no wifi only model. That is why it's price was high. And the Xoom was overpriced and a failure. So probably not the best of examples.

What makes you think the Surface will not be a failure? Lots of negative press so far and sales figures aren't all that impressive.

 

[Midwayman]

What makes you think the Surface will not be a failure? Lots of negative press so far and sales figures aren't all that impressive.

Its windows 8. Maybe the surface specifically will fail, but if you get a pro its still a windows machine. Not a lot of risk of windows being unsupported for the foreseeable future. RT- Who knows. I've heard the tool chain is setup so its minimal work to produce a RT version.

 

[dagamer34]

What makes you think the Surface will not be a failure? Lots of negative press so far and sales figures aren't all that impressive.

The success or failure of the Surface Pro specifically or Surface RT shouldn't affect how you use the device considering how many copies of Windows 8 will be sold and the fact that the number of users will be too large for developers to ignore.

 

[Gooberlx2]

Wait a few years and there will be feature-identical devices at half the price. The surface RT is overpriced.

FTFY. Surface Pro is pretty competitively priced with other ultrabooks.

 

[Chiropteran]

FTFY. Surface Pro is pretty competitively priced with other ultrabooks.

Ultrabooks are a failure, so why do you think a product with similar pricing and features will be a success?

http://semiaccurate.com/2012/10/02/a-year-on-ultrabooks-are-a-worse-disaster-than-most-expected/

http://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/are-ultrabooks-an-epic-failure/

 

[Ravynmagi]

What makes you think the Surface will not be a failure? Lots of negative press so far and sales figures aren't all that impressive.

I just said the Xoom was a failure. It is yet to be seen about the Surface Pro. Though I do think the Surface Pro's price is excessive and outside the sweet spot that Steve Ballmer himself identified for tablets.

Surface Pro might be worth the money, but I just don't think very many people want to spend that kind of money on a tablet, even an x86 one. So if it fails, and my guess it will, it'll be because it's too expensive.

Then again, I get the feeling Microsoft might not actually be trying to succeed with this tablet. They meant it to be over the top, expensive, and unbought. To show of what the premium Windows 8 tablet experience could look like, while not pissing off their partners who are busy making Atom base Windows tablets instead.

 

[Chiropteran]

I just said the Xoom was a failure. I

I just didn't get why you said,

"the Xoom was overpriced and a failure. So probably not the best of examples."

The surface pro is also overpriced and likely to be a failure, so it seems to me like it actually *is* the best example. Unless I just completely missed what you were trying to say.

 

[Ravynmagi]

I just didn't get why you said,

"the Xoom was overpriced and a failure. So probably not the best of examples."

The surface pro is also overpriced and likely to be a failure, so it seems to me like it actually *is* the best example. Unless I just completely missed what you were trying to say.

To me it sounded like you were arguing that the Surface Pro was not overpriced and the price was justified because it was new.

The Xoom was expensive because of the 4G, not because it was the first Android 3.0 tablet.

 

[Gooberlx2]

Ultrabooks are a failure, so why do you think a product with similar pricing and features will be a success?

Not really the argument. You claimed the Surface is overpriced based on hardware specs. I corrected that the RT is overpriced, while the Pro is competitively spec'd and priced with other ultrabooks...for which the OP specifically stated he's in the market.

 

[Pr0d1gy]

Surface RT is overpriced. Looking at everything else on the market now and the specs of the Surface Pro, it definitely gives the impression of being overpriced.

This. I was very interested in it, when it was rumored to be the Xbox Surface, but seeing it has low memory and an Intel HD4000 gpu just made me think what a rip off that thing is. For a little more (and maybe even the same or less in some cases) you could get a very nice gaming capable laptop/ultrabook/whatever.

 

[Chiropteran]

Not really the argument. You claimed the Surface is overpriced based on hardware specs. I corrected that the RT is overpriced, while the Pro is competitively spec'd and priced with other ultrabooks...for which the OP specifically stated he's in the market.

The Surface Pro *is* overpriced based on hardware specs. True, it is priced similar to Ultrabooks, but since Ultrabooks are themselves overpriced it's not really a good comparison if you are trying to say the Surface is actually not overpriced.

Ultrabooks have been a failure so far, due to price, and I predict the Surface Pro will fail for the same reason.


I hope my opinion is clear now.

 

[Pia]

http://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/are-ultrabooks-an-epic-failure/

Funnily enough, towards the end of this article there's a paragraph of commentary on how the Surface Pro will cause trouble for other manufacturers by undercutting them. By being priced lower than comparable products.