Will SLI change the speed of the graphics industry?

magomago

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I was thinking about SLI and what it means for the industry.
I just read in a thread a person saying not to buy a 6800Ultra because in two months it is going to be outdated by something newer. But with SLI on the horizon is that what will really happen?

1) I was thinking that SLI was brought out in order to keep the same cards on the market longer, and to slow down the GPU production cycle. Rather than put out something that gives 50-100% more preformance of the previous generation, SLI gives people "next generation preformance" with just the purchase of card of the "last generation". This is why I think that NV45 was canned- (or was it revived?) because it would seem more of a gimmick (like how the X850XT is right now)

2)This way rather than having to show a refresh every 6-12 months they can keep the same card on the market for longer. And because people will want to purchase a second card tweleve months from when they got their first card, it will keep demand slightly highe. Because cards are on the market longer, prices will not drop as fast as they do now. Furthrmore, production of a greater number of NV40 GPUS will reduce the average total cost of each GPU. This saves Nvidia even more money.
3)This way they can make more money, and focus on the "next generation" longer will lead to GPUs that get more sophisticated. There could also be a deviation from the standard "Brute force" methods that are currently used (that doesn't mean brute force is bad~ i remember someone here said that sometimes people don't think straight foreward enough)

What I just wonder is people are expecting something 50-100% faster than a standard 6800GT in a few months from now, and it makes me wonder whether or not we'll be able to buy these "new cards" anytime before summer at the EARLIEST. I just don't see why Nvidia would tout SLI, and then a year later rather than buy their "latest and greatest" for 500 dollars, you double your preformance for only 250...
 

Cerb

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Simply: no.
SLI is for marketting purposes and people with too much money to spend on PCs (come on, people use 600GTs in SLI--WHY?!).

Now, if gets to a level where we can use non-matching cards successfully in SLI and get similar gains (IE, a 6800GT and 6600GT, getting about 0.8(6600GT+6800GT) performance), the story might be quite different.
 

mrgoblin

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Originally posted by: Cerb
Simply: no.
SLI is for marketting purposes and people with too much money to spend on PCs (come on, people use 600GTs in SLI--WHY?!).

Now, if gets to a level where we can use non-matching cards successfully in SLI and get similar gains (IE, a 6800GT and 6600GT, getting about 0.8(6600GT+6800GT) performance), the story might be quite different.

SLI is half marketing and half future of building pcs. Dont forget that 2 top tier cards of the previous generation will be quite formidible just for the fact that you dont have to throw away your existing equipment. Keep in mind that Asus and another company are coming out with dual gpu 6600gts. Should be interesting to see a 4gpu sli config. I think itll beat an 850xt.
 

Cerb

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Yes, but why dual 6600GTs? The Gigabyte one isn't impressive at all--the single 6800GT is a better buy.
Dual 6800GTs, or even 6800s, on one card, would be compelling. Dual 6600GTs on a single card is pure marketting.
 

Cerb

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Originally posted by: BenSkywalker
Yes, but why dual 6600GTs?
Availability, power consumption, and heat generation seem like a few good reasons.
Granted, but when a single 6800GT is equivlent or superior (inferior at low res, superior at high), not expensive, and allows for another 6800GT to be installed...I can't see recommending anyone the 2x6600GT cards for any reason at all, even bling.
 

BenSkywalker

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Granted, but when a single 6800GT is equivlent or superior (inferior at low res, superior at high), not expensive, and allows for another 6800GT to be installed...I can't see recommending anyone the 2x6600GT cards for any reason at all, even bling.

For those that are purchasing a single 6600GT now, adding a second six-nine months down the road for $100 could be an extremely good upgrade path however.
 

deadseasquirrel

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Originally posted by: Cerb
Originally posted by: BenSkywalker
Yes, but why dual 6600GTs?
Availability, power consumption, and heat generation seem like a few good reasons.
Granted, but when a single 6800GT is equivlent or superior (inferior at low res, superior at high), not expensive, and allows for another 6800GT to be installed...I can't see recommending anyone the 2x6600GT cards for any reason at all, even bling.

Not expensive? Where are you shopping??

Right now, you can find 2 6600GTs for less than $400 total. The cheapest 6800GT you can buy right now is $475.

But, I agree with your verdict in the end, just not how you got there. I don't see myself recommending it to anyone either, yet I can see how someone might have made that decision. I, personally, am waiting until 6800GTs are back down to MSRP before I buy.
 

Cerb

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According to pricewatch and Newegg, a 6800GT can easily be had for $400 or under. Not PCI-E, granted, but I doubt any 6800GTs will get too cheap at any point.
 

bunnyfubbles

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no, not at all. SLI cannot replace new flagships, because 2 x new flagship in SLI should always be nearly twice as fast ans 2 x old flagship. SLI doesn't do anything more than add a twist on how you decide to setup your system.

Originally posted by: magomago
What I just wonder is people are expecting something 50-100% faster than a standard 6800GT in a few months from now, and it makes me wonder whether or not we'll be able to buy these "new cards" anytime before summer at the EARLIEST. I just don't see why Nvidia would tout SLI, and then a year later rather than buy their "latest and greatest" for 500 dollars, you double your preformance for only 250...

To sum it up, averaged out there will always be people buy 2x $500 and having a setup much faster than 2 x old cards. Of which if you spend $500 on a card early on and then spend $250 later to upgrade, you've spent $750 total as opposed to the guy who spent $1000 total and his performance is 50-100% greater than yours.