Will Programming Eventually Be So Commonplace That You'll Be Laughed At For Boasting About It?

[Gizmo j]

A few hundred years ago people who can read and write were considered to be extremely intelligent, nowadays you would be laughed at for even slightly bragging about being able to read and write.

Will bragging about being able to code become just as laughable?

 

[sandorski]

I spell gud tw2 an grandma fine. Bee holed my l33t scillz.

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[Torn Mind]

Humans are generally not wired to think programatically.

Autistics are better adapted for reason and logic.

 

[AdamK47]

It's commonplace right now. There is no need to boast about it. This isn't 1994.

 

[Muse]

It's commonplace right now. There is no need to boast about it. This isn't 1994.

I first studied programming in 1994 -- Wordperfect, Lotus 1-2-3, Microsoft FoxPro (which I use on a daily basis). IMO, boasting is never a good look. TBH, I explain to people that I program because I wouldn't be the same person if I didn't program. For the last 15 years I've done it for myself, I use code to manage my own data.

 

[purbeast0]

Back in the day, those that couldn't read or write were also basically peasants who never went anywhere in life.

Now a days there is a lot more than programming that can get you ahead in life.

So I'm going to say no.

 

[sdifox]

Elementary students are being taught Python now.

 

[ultimatebob]

Elementary students are being taught Python now.

I'll bet that a lot of them don't understand it, either. They used to teach Basic programming when I was in high school, and there seemed to be a pretty even split in the class between those who completed the assignments early and those who needed instructor help to get the minimum requirements complete.

Coding is a lot like advanced math. You either "get it", or you don't.

 

[lxskllr]

I think some it is because it's boring. At least it is for me. If I'm not solving a problem I find useful, it's just work. Not sure what problems school kids could solve to keep the ones like me interested.

 

[Muse]

Back in the day, those that couldn't read or write were also basically peasants who never went anywhere in life.

Now a days there is a lot more than programming that can get you ahead in life.

So I'm going to say no.

I'm watching this cool video of a speech by Warren Buffett. He talks about 3 people who started with close to nothing and made themselves into paragons of success. The first is Rose Blumkin who came to America and couldn't speak a word of English. She had a kid who taught her words by and by. Her whole life she couldn't read or write. But she had ambition, started a used furniture business that she eventually sold to Buffett for $60,000,000, died at 101.

I think some it is because it's boring. At least it is for me. If I'm not solving a problem I find useful, it's just work. Not sure what problems school kids could solve to keep the ones like me interested.

I love programming in FoxPro. It's an extremely powerful 4th generation language. I started in it before the object oriented versions started coming out, and after Microsoft had bought Fox Software. It's an xBase derivative. I program for myself these days, so I only program when I am motivated to, which is a lot. I've taken the simplest of procedures (my own that I used in a tech support capacity at a software company) and morphed it over the years into a behemoth of flexibility and functionality for my own use. I learned a lot of state of the art programming techniques when I careered in it in the middle to late 1990's and into this century a bit. Did a bit of Y2K work at one point. More than anything it's why I work in Windows. Microsoft stopped supporting it mainly because it wasn't a great revenue source for them. If they'd developed it in the first place, I'm sure it would have been, but they inherited its xBase platform and couldn't turn it into the cash cow type of thing that SQL Server is.

 

[pcgeek11]

Boasting about programming...

 

[sdifox]

I'll bet that a lot of them don't understand it, either. They used to teach Basic programming when I was in high school, and there seemed to be a pretty even split in the class between those who completed the assignments early and those who needed instructor help to get the minimum requirements complete.

Coding is a lot like advanced math. You either "get it", or you don't.

What it means is it is now considered part of general knowledge. Not everyone who took science in elementary school go on to become scientists.

 

[pmv]

Since when has _anyone_ ever 'boasted' about being able to code? I don't remember there _ever_ being a time when anyone did that. Quite the opposite, as I remember, it was one step above telling people you were an accountant. Generally quite a low-status sort of activity.

(and when did it become 'coding' rather than 'programming'? That seems to have been a recent change in terminology)

 

[purbeast0]

As someone in the industry, people don't really refer to themselves as programmers or coders. It's usually developer or engineer. I call myself a software engineer because there is quite a bit more than the whole coding side of it. That is just part of it, but a major part of it.

 

[IronWing]

I removed programming from my resume over twenty years ago. No one cares anymore.

 

[NTMBK]

In a few hundred years, it will probably be fairly uncommon for people to be able to read and write. Hard to have an educated population after society collapses.

 

[brianmanahan]

As someone in the industry, people don't really refer to themselves as programmers or coders. It's usually developer or engineer. I call myself a software engineer because there is quite a bit more than the whole coding side of it. That is just part of it, but a major part of it.

i use developer because engineer sounds pretentious

plus almost all software development isn't real engineering - it's "do this as fast and cheap as possible to deploy to production, then we'll fix the bugs and add stuff people want later"

like, you couldn't engineer a building or a bridge or a car or a rocket like that

 

[Torn Mind]

i use developer because engineer sounds pretentious

plus almost all software development isn't real engineering - it's "do this as fast and cheap as possible to deploy to production, then we'll fix the bugs and add stuff people want later"

like, you couldn't engineer a building or a bridge or a car or a rocket like that

Actually, Ford and GM does that to cars all the time. Altnernator under the car, shitty metal, no stopping of the production line. Where Toyota innovated in car manufacturing is that they DO stop the lines if there is a quality defect.

Buildings too.

Had the ceiling in a bedroom of an acquaintance's house fall because after 40 years, drywall nails don't hold anymore.

 

[purbeast0]

i use developer because engineer sounds pretentious

plus almost all software development isn't real engineering - it's "do this as fast and cheap as possible to deploy to production, then we'll fix the bugs and add stuff people want later"

like, you couldn't engineer a building or a bridge or a car or a rocket like that

Software development is part of a software engineers job. I am glad I have the ability to actually engineer stuff from scratch. And I'm constantly re-engineering stuff too and am a huge fan of refactoring.

It's kind of part of my normal process. I get it working quick and dirty sometimes with redundant code, then after I have that working, I'll go back and refactor it to be more effective, less code, etc. But I'll do all of that before ever merging the branch so it's not like I'm doing it quick and dirty and pushing to prod, then going back and doing it.

 

[Muse]

I might have said it already, but no, not everybody will be a proficient programmer. Besides, there are so many languages and you can't sit on your laurels as a programmer, you always have to be upgrading your skills. It's always going to be for specialists.

Besides, boasting is for fools.

 

[nakedfrog]

As someone in the industry, people don't really refer to themselves as programmers or coders. It's usually developer or engineer. I call myself a software engineer because there is quite a bit more than the whole coding side of it. That is just part of it, but a major part of it.

I've mostly told people that I'm a programmer for a long time, because that was enough for people to understand and they generally don't care much beyond that (a popular response in the Midwest was "haha, I hate computers"). Being in the greater Seattle area now I do tend to use software engineer more, because everyone here knows what that means.

 

[Red Squirrel]

When I was in college I was surprised at how most people did not really grasp programming that much, and the courses were rather low level stuff too. I thought I would go in and learn new things but instead I was basically the unofficial class tutor. I wouldn't even consider myself a good programmer I just know enough to make the stuff I want work. Then when I joined the work force I was equally surprised that most of the other IT people did not know coding either. I always assumed it was just a standard IT skill but guess it's not.

Back end stuff is mostly what I know very well, I'd like to learn more GUI/graphics related stuff at some point but have not really touched it much. When I was a teenager I used to play around with MFC (Microsoft Foundation Classes) as well as resources, which was a way to use a GUI application to create dialog boxes and other elements, store them within the exe or a DLL then call them in the program. You could use icons that way too. I made little utility programs that would do random things but nothing really crazy.

 

[VirtualLarry]

I'll bet that a lot of them don't understand it, either. They used to teach Basic programming when I was in high school, and there seemed to be a pretty even split in the class between those who completed the assignments early and those who needed instructor help to get the minimum requirements complete.

I lament the loss of a B.A.S.I.C. curriculum in schools these days. It really was a good teaching / prototyping language.

(That's Beginner's All-purpose Symbolic Instruction Code to you, buddy.)

 

[brianmanahan]

I lament the loss of a B.A.S.I.C. curriculum in schools these days. It really was a good teaching / prototyping language.

(That's Beginner's All-purpose Symbolic Instruction Code to you, buddy.)

i wrote so many dumb games in QBASIC lol

 

[IronWing]

i wrote so many dumb games in QBASIC lol

Pick a number between one and five.


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