Will McCains current tactics work?

[ProfJohn]

Originally posted by: Thump553
If you pay any attention to the economy, the meltdown that is now happening on Wall Street stands a very probability of spreading to Main Street. Lehman Brothers went into Chapter 11 today without a bit of federal intervention (just talk) and now it looks like a very major insurer, AIG, could be going the same route as soon as tomorrow. Even a few days ago it was absolutely unthinkable AIG's situation would unravel this far or this fast.

Alan Greenspan today said this is a once a century occurence, and he hasn't seen anything like this in his lifetime. To me that's like having your doctor gasp "Holy f*ck" when he looks at your chart.

We had the worst day on Wall Street today since 9/11 and tomorrow is shaping up to be more of the same.

McCain's response-repeated again today-the economy is fundamentally sound, and he railed about the high salaries CEOs of failed institutions get. That's like complaining about a parking lot ding on your car that subsequently got run over by a tank. He is pathetically out of his league with financial issues, and frankly out of touch.

I think this may jolt Americans into selecting a President who can (and does) dare to think, and the lipstick, etc issues that the GOP is so fond of will diminish rapidly. We need to select a leader, not choose the best sideshow distraction.

There is a theory floating around that says a poor economy is good for Obama but a really bad economy is good for McCain.

The idea being that the worse the economy is the more McCain can bring Obama's lack of experience into the debate.

Are you willing to trust the economy to a guy who was in Washington for less than 2 years before deciding to run for President?

 

[OrByte]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Originally posted by: OneOfTheseDays
McCain went negative way too early. That is why Rove had to chide him on national TV, he knows the danger of going so outrageously negative too early. It bites you in the ass.

You have not even seen negative yet.

Wait till "God damn America!!!" is repeated on TV a few dozen times a day.

I look forward to it.

between negative and lying ads, getting humilated on national TV at the debates, and Rev Wright advertisements...McCain will be looking pretty pathetic.

McCain can't even handle questions on "The View" without looking like he wants to bite someone's head off.

 

[OneOfTheseDays]

Exactly, when McCain has to own up to his lies he fumbles like an idiot. He won't be able to lie about Barack Obama when Barack Obama is in the same freaking room as him.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: Thump553
If you pay any attention to the economy, the meltdown that is now happening on Wall Street stands a very probability of spreading to Main Street. Lehman Brothers went into Chapter 11 today without a bit of federal intervention (just talk) and now it looks like a very major insurer, AIG, could be going the same route as soon as tomorrow. Even a few days ago it was absolutely unthinkable AIG's situation would unravel this far or this fast.

Alan Greenspan today said this is a once a century occurence, and he hasn't seen anything like this in his lifetime. To me that's like having your doctor gasp "Holy f*ck" when he looks at your chart.

We had the worst day on Wall Street today since 9/11 and tomorrow is shaping up to be more of the same.

McCain's response-repeated again today-the economy is fundamentally sound, and he railed about the high salaries CEOs of failed institutions get.

That's like complaining about a parking lot ding on your car that subsequently got run over by a tank.

He is pathetically out of his league with financial issues, and frankly out of touch.

I think this may jolt Americans into selecting a President who can (and does) dare to think, and the lipstick, etc issues that the GOP is so fond of will diminish rapidly. We need to select a leader, not choose the best sideshow distraction.

Actualy the opposite is happening.

Both New York and New Jersey have McCain gaining on Obama that McCain might even have a shot at one or both.

9-15-2008 McCain gaining on Obama in NY

Barack Obama?s once double-digit lead on John McCain has shrunk to just five points in the race for the White House, according to a poll released Monday by the Siena (College) Research Institute.

The poll also said New York likely voters are evenly divided ? 44-44 percent ? on whether they want to see Republicans continue to control the state Senate or have the Democrats take control for the first time in more than 30 years.

 

[OneOfTheseDays]

C'mon, be serious. NY will never go Republican.

 

[brencat]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn
The idea being that the worse the economy is the more McCain can bring Obama's lack of experience into the debate.

Are you willing to trust the economy to a guy who was in Washington for less than 2 years before deciding to run for President?

Exactly right.

 

[Buck Armstrong]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn
The idea being that the worse the economy is the more McCain can bring Obama's lack of experience into the debate.

Are you willing to trust the economy to a guy who was in Washington for less than 2 years before deciding to run for President?

Not necessarily...but maybe a bit more willing than I am to trust it to a guy who already said it wasn't his strength and the fundamentals of the economy are still strong, while one of his chief advisors said it was all in our heads and we're just a bunch of whiners.

 

[dbk]

The debates will solve everything.

 

[Juddog]

McCain's camp just keeps getting worse.

It's hard to believe they have sunk so low that they are calling people with fake polls asking questions about if they are jewish and if they would be bothered if Obama was an anti-Israel Muslim.

Jewish voters are complaining of a poll that, after confirming their religion, asks a series of questions that appear aimed at alarming Jewish voters, including linking Barack Obama to Palestinian terrorist groups.

Debbie Minden of Pittsburgh described receiving the call from "Research Strategies" late yesterday afternoon. And a Key West woman, Joelna Marcus, reportedly received a similar-sounding call from the same group, according reports from the Obama-backing organization JewsVote.org and from a liberal blog.

Minden, a psychologist who lives in the Jewish neighborhood of Squirrel Hill, said the poll -- which came from an identified number -- began with relatively inocuous questions about what organizations she belongs to, whether she prefers CNN or Fox News, and how Obama and McCain compare on a range of issues, from national security to hte economy to education.

The caller also asked whether she was Jewish.

"It sounded like a real poll," Minden, 56, asaid.

Then the caller asked, as she recalled: "Would it change your mind about Obama if you knew that his church was anti-Israel? Would it change you rmind if you knew that the leaders Hamas had endorsed Obama? Would it change your mind if you knew he had met with the leaders of Hamas?"

She also said one question asked whether it would change her mind if she learned he were a Muslim, though she didn't recall the precise wording.

The poll lasted about 15 minutes, she said.

Marcus gave a similar account to JewsVote's Mik Moore, who wrote in an email that Marcus was asked if her opinion of Barack Obama would change if she knew that he had given money to the Palestinian Liberation Organization.

Marcus couldn't immediately be reached. If you've gotten a similar poll, or know someone who has, please get in touch.

UPDATE: Jewish readers in New Jersey and Philadelphia report getting the call, as did The New Republic's Jonathan Cohn, who took notes, and lists the negative messages:

Obama has had a decade long relationship with pro-Palestinian leaders in Chicago

the leader of Hamas, Ahmed Yousef, expressed support for Obama and his hope for Obama's victory

the church Barack Obama has attended is known for its anti-Israel and anti-American remarks

Jimmy Carter's anti-Israel national security advisor is one of Barack Obama's foreign policy advisors

Barack Obama was the member of a board (sic) that funded a pro-Palestinian chartiable organization

Barack Obama called for holding a summit of Muslim nations exlcuding Israel if elected president

 

[Juddog]

This is not the same John McCain from 2000. This is not the Maverick we loved 8 years ago. He has been devoured by the disgusting Neo-Con Powermonger Machine and excreted out in some new, twisted mockery of himself.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Juddog
This is not the same John McCain from 2000. This is not the Maverick we loved 8 years ago. He has been devoured by the disgusting Neo-Con Powermonger Machine and excreted out in some new, twisted mockery of himself.

McCain of 2000 wouldn't be pandering to the Religious Right like he is now.

 

[lupi]

Originally posted by: Thump553
If you pay any attention to the economy, the meltdown that is now happening on Wall Street stands a very probability of spreading to Main Street. Lehman Brothers went into Chapter 11 today without a bit of federal intervention (just talk) and now it looks like a very major insurer, AIG, could be going the same route as soon as tomorrow. Even a few days ago it was absolutely unthinkable AIG's situation would unravel this far or this fast.

Alan Greenspan today said this is a once a century occurence, and he hasn't seen anything like this in his lifetime. To me that's like having your doctor gasp "Holy f*ck" when he looks at your chart.

We had the worst day on Wall Street today since 9/11 and tomorrow is shaping up to be more of the same.

McCain's response-repeated again today-the economy is fundamentally sound, and he railed about the high salaries CEOs of failed institutions get. That's like complaining about a parking lot ding on your car that subsequently got run over by a tank. He is pathetically out of his league with financial issues, and frankly out of touch.

I think this may jolt Americans into selecting a President who can (and does) dare to think, and the lipstick, etc issues that the GOP is so fond of will diminish rapidly. We need to select a leader, not choose the best sideshow distraction.

Lol

So greenspan says that this is probably a once a century burp the economy is going through and yet this somehow means that the fundamentals of the economy are in error. Seems to me he is reinforcing the point that the fundamentals are sound and we should be cautious about what changes we implement.