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Will lower timing memory really make a difference?

Mithan

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Hi guys.

I am considering getting a Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3R and either a Q6600 or E6850, but of course, if I get the Q6600 I will probably over clock it into the 2.8-3.0gig range if possible, as I primarily game on my PC and the X2 4200 is getting a bit old....


As usual, what is really screwing me of course is memory.


Will I notice much of a difference between "lower timed" memory like 4-4-4-12 vs something like 5-5-5-15 ?

Also, would anybody recommend waiting another 2-3 months for Penryn?
 
Originally posted by: n7
Q6600.

No.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16820231122

No.
While Penryn is indeed much better, it's also going to be pricier for a while IMO.
Obviously, if you enjoy waiting, then sure, but i'd suggest getting the quad & enjoying it now.

I sorta agree, however if you find that you could use a quad now then get it now. If you can get a cheap dual core somewhere and use that for a few months and wait for Penryn to pan out in retail channels I would suggest that instead. the .45nm CPUs will likely overclock better and will definately not run as hot. It'd be an option to buy a real cheap C2D for the meantime and just swap CPUs later if you can do that.

memory timings aren't super important, 5-5-5-15 won't feel different than 4-4-4-12 when it comes down to actually working in applications and not reading benchmarks.
 
But memory timings will effect gaming with current games and the ones that will be coming.

And if you want to wait for a Penryn then get a E2180 while you wait. Good value, decent performance. The E6850 won't let you taske advantage of the multicore supported games like a Q6600. So in my book it is a choice of either the Q6600 or E2180...
 
Originally posted by: cozumel
But memory timings will effect gaming with current games and the ones that will be coming.

And if you want to wait for a Penryn then get a E2180 while you wait. Good value, decent performance. The E6850 won't let you taske advantage of the multicore supported games like a Q6600. So in my book it is a choice of either the Q6600 or E2180...

Nah, Dual Core is still tops for Games and will remain that way for a long time yet, I would only get a Quad Core if it is 3.0gig (OC'ed or standard).

Ill probably just wait for Penryn's new 3.0gig Quad Core, it is reasonably priced (~$300) and clocked at 3.0 gig, so its worth while.
 
Originally posted by: Mithan
Originally posted by: cozumel
But memory timings will effect gaming with current games and the ones that will be coming.

And if you want to wait for a Penryn then get a E2180 while you wait. Good value, decent performance. The E6850 won't let you taske advantage of the multicore supported games like a Q6600. So in my book it is a choice of either the Q6600 or E2180...

Nah, Dual Core is still tops for Games and will remain that way for a long time yet, I would only get a Quad Core if it is 3.0gig (OC'ed or standard).

Ill probably just wait for Penryn's new 3.0gig Quad Core, it is reasonably priced (~$300) and clocked at 3.0 gig, so its worth while.

if you answered your own question why did you post at all?
 
Originally posted by: cozumel
But memory timings will effect gaming with current games and the ones that will be coming.

And if you want to wait for a Penryn then get a E2180 while you wait. Good value, decent performance. The E6850 won't let you taske advantage of the multicore supported games like a Q6600. So in my book it is a choice of either the Q6600 or E2180...

Memory timings will not increase FPS in games. 5-5-5-15 vs 4-4-4-12 is no difference.
 
Originally posted by: cmdrdredd
Originally posted by: Mithan
Originally posted by: cozumel
But memory timings will effect gaming with current games and the ones that will be coming.

And if you want to wait for a Penryn then get a E2180 while you wait. Good value, decent performance. The E6850 won't let you taske advantage of the multicore supported games like a Q6600. So in my book it is a choice of either the Q6600 or E2180...

Nah, Dual Core is still tops for Games and will remain that way for a long time yet, I would only get a Quad Core if it is 3.0gig (OC'ed or standard).

Ill probably just wait for Penryn's new 3.0gig Quad Core, it is reasonably priced (~$300) and clocked at 3.0 gig, so its worth while.

if you answered your own question why did you post at all?

I was asking about memory timings 🙂

 
Originally posted by: Mithan
Hi guys.

I am considering getting a Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3R and either a Q6600 or E6850, but of course, if I get the Q6600 I will probably over clock it into the 2.8-3.0gig range if possible, as I primarily game on my PC and the X2 4200 is getting a bit old....


As usual, what is really screwing me of course is memory.


Will I notice much of a difference between "lower timed" memory like 4-4-4-12 vs something like 5-5-5-15 ?

Also, would anybody recommend waiting another 2-3 months for Penryn?



I see you did, but you also mentioned CPUs so some advice was directed to that.
 
@ cmdrdredd:
Tighter timings did improve my fps on games on my last rig. I haven't actually checked out what happens on this rig with DDR2/Q6600/P35 as it is a recent build but I will check it out once I've fully finished the build by the end of the year (waiting on improved cooling components and may get a new case). I'll check it out on Crysis, Gears of War, Witcher and other titles and compare the fps so that I am able to back up my claims or forever hold my peace.
 
Yeah I have some corsair dominator pc8500 5-5-5-15 ram and I am also wondering if it's worth pushing the timings lower. This is also on a q6600 x38 chipset. If I'm only gonna get on average 1-3% fps increase then it's not really worth it for me. But if I may get 5+%, then I could consider it.
 
Originally posted by: cozumel
@ cmdrdredd:
Tighter timings did improve my fps on games on my last rig. I haven't actually checked out what happens on this rig with DDR2/Q6600/P35 as it is a recent build but I will check it out once I've fully finished the build by the end of the year (waiting on improved cooling components and may get a new case). I'll check it out on Crysis, Gears of War, Witcher and other titles and compare the fps so that I am able to back up my claims or forever hold my peace.

I've personally tested 4-4-4-12 vs 5-5-5-15 and there was no tangible difference.
 
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