will i have bottleneckwith my 4770k .4.5 ;;;

mikepsu

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Hi Guys,

I have one 4770k .4.5 overclocked and I was thinking to upgrade to new cpu./
Now I have one 780 gtx and one old monitor which ls lg flatron 27 size tn..

At 1440p will I have bottleneck if I will; buy one new 2080 ti card and one new gaming 27" WQHD 1440p IPS 165Hz monitor ;
The most games will have bottleneck with my 4770k;; and 27" WQHD 1440p IPS 165Hz monitor ; with one 2080 ti;
also the most games need 6 or 8 cores;';;
 

whm1974

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Please no need to shout. The vast majority of games are highly GPU bound and as long as you have a decent CPU, you should be fine. However some multi-player games do benefit from more cores/threads, namely those which have high numbers of players.
 

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a lot of people told me that i will have bottle in most games with my 4770k with 2080 ti card and one new gaming 27" WQHD 1440p IPS 165Hz monitor

like assaseen origins and odysey these 2 games needs 6 and 8 cores for to have 60 fps and more
 

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a lot of people told me that i will have bottle in most games with my 4770k with 2080 ti card and one new gaming 27" WQHD 1440p IPS 165Hz monitor

like assaseen origins and odysey these 2 games needs 6 and 8 cores for to have 60 fps and more

Didn't whm1974 answer your question? Or are you waiting for an answer you want to hear?
 

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a lot of people told me that i will have bottle in most games with my 4770k with 2080 ti card and one new gaming 27" WQHD 1440p IPS 165Hz monitor

like assaseen origins and odysey these 2 games needs 6 and 8 cores for to have 60 fps and more
Well this does vary from game to game. A overclocked 4770k is still has respectable performance. Even with games that do benefit from higher core counts, they benefit even more so from higher IPC and clockspeeds.
 

mikepsu

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what you mean;
some people told me to upgrade my 4770k to 9900 k because with 2080 ti my 4770k will have very big bottle in most games these things they told me and i dont know if its true.

i will show you one video what i mean

see this video and tell me what you see;;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=153&v=qKztwJTxujg

the video shows
RTX 2080 Ti & I7-4770K - Further Investigation With CPU Heavy Games
 

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Given how much the 2080 Ti costs, I would be pairing it with a recent higher end CPU. A 2080Ti is something I would get for a new high end build not upgrading an older one.
 

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you mean that 2080ti will not perform very good with my 4770k in most games;;
No, I think it will do fine with most games. But there are also a lot that could use a better CPU. Best to get the video card, see how it does on the games YOU play, then decide.

With an unlimited budget, sure, I would just go for a 9900k right off with that video card.
 
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No, I think it will do fine with most games. But there are also a lot that could use a better CPU. Best to get the video card, see how it does on the games YOU play, then decide.

With an unlimited budget, sure, I would just go for a 9900k right off with that video card.
I agree, and I think it is rather silly to get that kind of video card and display for an older 4c/8t system.
 
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Quickly looking at Newegg a 2080Ti is ~$1400 and a 1440p@165Hz display is ~$700-$800 for a decent one. Yikes, that is over $2000...:eek:

The OP will be better just building a really nice completely new system instead.:rolleyes:
 

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As others have pointed out, if all you do is run benchmarks then you might notice something. But if you actually USE it to oh I dunno, play games for example you won't notice any difference at all.
 
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Quickly looking at Newegg a 2080Ti is ~$1400 and a 1440p@165Hz display is ~$700-$800 for a decent one. Yikes, that is over $2000...:eek:

The OP will be better just building a really nice completely new system instead.:rolleyes:

Also depends on whether he's seriously gonna try to hit 165MHz in anything modern, or if he just wants it for older titles (eSports etc). Sounds like he's bought some expensive hardware without really thinking through how he wants to use it.

That 4770k won't stop him from hitting 165 fps in something like Dota2 or CS:GO. If he's trying to push frames like that in anything newer then he should be shooting for the highest per-core performance he can get with 6c minimum. Which probably means a 9700k, or a 9900k with HT disabled (for the extra L3). With bad-ass RAM to keep minfps high.
 
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Generally, gaming at 1440P is mostly GPU bound but the 2080 Ti has changed that somewhat. To answer your question, yes, you will be bottlenecked by your CPU a bit.

I upgraded from a 3770K @ 4.7GHz (similar to a 4770K @ 4.5GHz) to a 8700K at 5.0GHz. Yes, games do run better, particularly titles that can take advantage of 6 cores like BF1, and now BFV. Can you always tell the difference with all games? No. Some games are less CPU intensive, where even a 3770K or 4770K in your case will be enough to 'max out' the game.

In general, you're probably looking at a 10 - 15% improvement in gaming by upgrading to the latest 8700K / 9700K / 9900K, but that is very game dependant. Some games will show no gains, while others may show up to 30% higher performance.

If you're already spending $2000 on the GPU and monitor, maybe upgrading to the latest CPUs could be worth the investmemt to get the most out of your gear.

The best way to decide that is to actually run the games on your current gear. If you want to see if you are CPU bottlenecked, there is an easy way to tell: run the game at 1440P then 1080P. If you are CPU bottlenecked, you will see very similar performance between the two resolutions. If you aren't, then the 1080P numbers should be significantly higher.
 
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Also depends on whether he's seriously gonna try to hit 165MHz in anything modern, or if he just wants it for older titles (eSports etc). Sounds like he's bought some expensive hardware without really thinking through how he wants to use it.

That 4770k won't stop him from hitting 165 fps in something like Dota2 or CS:GO. If he's trying to push frames like that in anything newer then he should be shooting for the highest per-core performance he can get with 6c minimum. Which probably means a 9700k, or a 9900k with HT disabled (for the extra L3). With bad-ass RAM to keep minfps high.
I myself am perfectly fine with 2560x1600@60Hz as long as I can get reasonable framerates in the games I play. With the current ones I have my GTX 970 has enough performance for that.

The 2070/2080 will have to come way down in price for me to consider upgrading. And I am far less likely to upgrade my display on top of that.
 

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The 2070/2080 will have to come way down in price for me to consider upgrading. And I am far less likely to upgrade my display on top of that.

Newegg is already advertising discounts on the 2070 in some of their mailers. Gee, I wonder why . . .