Will Georgia indict? May find out tonight! Update: Posted Jan 9 finally indicted Aug 14.

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HomerJS

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My next prediction for the deplorables in Georgia...

They will attempt to change the law in GA giving the Governer pardoning power which he currently does not have. Also, GA has a min of 5 years serving. If that doesn't work they will attempt a mass turnover of the Georgia pardons board and fill with stooges that will vote for a pardon.
 
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Homerboy

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HomerJS said:
My next prediction for the deplorables in Georgia...

They will attempt to change the law in GA giving the Governer pardoning power which he currently does not have. Also, GA has a min of 5 years serving. If that doesn't work they will attempt a mass turnover of the Georgia pardons board and fill with stooges that will vote for a pardon.
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They can try all they want. They don't have close to the numbers to even get it to a vote by the people

How can Georgia's Constitution be amended?

Amending the constitution: A proposed amendment can be introduced in either the Georgia House of Representatives or the Georgia Senate. A proposed amendment must be approved by two-thirds of the membership of each chamber before going to the state's voters.
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HomerJS said:
My next prediction for the deplorables in Georgia...

They will attempt to change the law in GA giving the Governer pardoning power which he currently does not have. Also, GA has a min of 5 years serving. If that doesn't work they will attempt a mass turnover of the Georgia pardons board and fill with stooges that will vote for a pardon.
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I'm not sure - quite frankly neither the sec of state nor governor are fans of trump and both got reelected despite trump telling people to not vote for them.
 
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fskimospy

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HomerJS said:
They can if districts are heavily gerrymandered as in most red states.
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I will never understand the desire among liberals to generate 'Trump will get away with it' fan fiction.

1) Neither Georgia's house or Senate are particularly close to reaching the 2/3rds threshold.
2) Kemp isn't going to pardon Trump even if he had the ability.
3) The soonest time they can have that 2/3rds majority is in the 2024 election, meaning any changes to the GA constitution could not come until 2026 at the earliest as per the GA constitution votes on constitutional amendments are only permitted in even years.

So Trump's chances are that the pardon board as currently constituted wants to give him a pardon, which I see no evidence of, or he can get pardoned after a few years in prison by a revised GA constitution.
 
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fskimospy said:
I will never understand the desire among liberals to generate 'Trump will get away with it' fan fiction.

1) Neither Georgia's house or Senate are particularly close to reaching the 2/3rds threshold.
2) Kemp isn't going to pardon Trump even if he had the ability.
3) The soonest time they can have that 2/3rds majority is in the 2024 election, meaning any changes to the GA constitution could not come until 2026 at the earliest as per the GA constitution votes on constitutional amendments are only permitted in even years.

So Trump's chances are that the pardon board as currently constituted wants to give him a pardon, which I see no evidence of, or he can get pardoned after a few years in prison by a revised GA constitution.
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Yet with all that they managed to pass voting restrictions the people didn't want.

I hear what you are saying but I wouldn't put anything past these people who were found guilty in court in 3 other states racist gerrymandering. Even today Alabama still refused to fix the maps despite being ordered to by SCOTUS.

I'll take back my "Trump always gets away with it" when he is found guilty in court and sent to prison.
 
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What actually happens if a jury in a state case find him guilty and he's sentenced along the same timeline as the federal ones? Is there some order of operations that federal crimes ... uhhh.... trump state ones and he has to serve them out first?
 
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vi edit said:
What actually happens if a jurors in a state case find him guilty and he's sentenced along the same timeline as the federal ones? Is there some order of operations that federal crimes ... uhhh.... trump state ones and he has to serve them out first?
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Not a lawyer here and I’m sure there are tons of complexities but from my understanding it primarily depends on who convicts him first and you serve that sentence first. I think there’s a fair amount of discretion as to if the sentences run concurrently or consecutively.
 
Homerboy

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fskimospy said:
I will never understand the desire among liberals to generate 'Trump will get away with it' fan fiction.

1) Neither Georgia's house or Senate are particularly close to reaching the 2/3rds threshold.
2) Kemp isn't going to pardon Trump even if he had the ability.
3) The soonest time they can have that 2/3rds majority is in the 2024 election, meaning any changes to the GA constitution could not come until 2026 at the earliest as per the GA constitution votes on constitutional amendments are only permitted in even years.

So Trump's chances are that the pardon board as currently constituted wants to give him a pardon, which I see no evidence of, or he can get pardoned after a few years in prison by a revised GA constitution.
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Beat me to it. It actually takes 2/3s just to get it passed so that people can then vote on it. It's NOT happening.
 
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Well..... whatever happens he won't be indicted in Georgia tonight.
 
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We will know by 7:15 cdt. Judge said that is what he was told.... another 30 minutes or less...
 
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I highly doubt this case goes to trial before the election. Let’s pretend Jan 6 case does indeed start in Jan, it’s back to back trials until end of June minimum. And if he manages to get the nomination, going through the 4th trial won’t change MAGAtard minds. But imagine he wins in November. Georgia waiting until after the election to go to trial. Imagine a President Elect under trial before the inauguration
 
Charmonium

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Yeah, this going to be . . . let's say, "interesting."

I can see the DC case getting moved up since there's only the Dumpster named as a defendant and only 4 counts. As the pundits have been saying, that case is "built for speed."

We'll see.
 
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eelw said:
I highly doubt this case goes to trial before the election. Let’s pretend Jan 6 case does indeed start in Jan, it’s back to back trials until end of June minimum. And if he manages to get the nomination, going through the 4th trial won’t change MAGAtard minds. But imagine he wins in November. Georgia waiting until after the election to go to trial. Imagine a President Elect under trial before the inauguration
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SC gets to decide whether an imprisoned person can be president. That'll be fun.
 
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The indictment is about an inch thick, maybe a bit more. So this weighty in every sense.

The full text should be available tonight but likely not for 2 or 3 hours.
 
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OMG, Rachel Maddow had "lock her up" scheduled for tonight. So if you have cable, this should be a hoot. I hope we get to hear her cackle.

meh. they're doing a remarkable job of looking serious.
 
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eelw said:
I highly doubt this case goes to trial before the election. Let’s pretend Jan 6 case does indeed start in Jan, it’s back to back trials until end of June minimum. And if he manages to get the nomination, going through the 4th trial won’t change MAGAtard minds. But imagine he wins in November. Georgia waiting until after the election to go to trial. Imagine a President Elect under trial before the inauguration
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I know this country has a big no-no against persecution of political enemies, but it is a bummer that corrupt AF politicians use that policy as a cover/excuse to do even more questionable actions, citing that any pushback or punishment they receive is "unfair". It almost feels like "too big to fail" where if you gain enough influence or power, at some point the government cannot touch you because of potential consequences. In a just and fair world, those consequences should not impede the wheels of justice.
 
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