Will a Socket 939 mobo with 1066mhz HT work with 2000mhz HT CPU's?

[computer]

Hi all, I'm doing nothing but wasting my time on this and I'm not familiar with AMD platforms so I thought I would ask here. This Aopen nCK804UA-LFS mobo says in the specs it supports 1066mhz HT CPU's (Socket 939 Athlon 64 dual-core). But I can't find any. Most are 1600 or 2000mhz HT. The latest BIOS says it will support FX60 CPU's but I can't find what their "HT" is. The best CPU support I could find on it is here: <a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="ftp://ftp.aopen.com/pub/report/motherboard/nbpm(template)_nck804ua-lfs.pdf"><a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="ftp://ftp.aopen.com/pub/report/motherboard/nbpm(template)_nck804ua-lfs.pdf"><a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="ftp://ftp.aopen.com/pub/report/motherboard/nbpm(template)_nck804ua-lfs.pdf">[url]ftp://ftp.aopen.com/pub/report............template)_nck804ua-lfs.pdf[/url]</a></a></a> and that says the fastest is Athlon 64 Dual-Core 4800+, but, it doesn't have "Pass" next to that one nor many others listed.

So does anyone know if this mobo will ONLY work with CPU's that are 1066mhz HT? Again, I don't know if there's such a thing as Athlon 64 4800+ that's 1066mhz HT. If not, and they are all 2000mhz HT then obviously this mobo will support 2000mhz HT CPU's. Apparently it won't support Opteron since that's not on that list. ?

Thanks.

 

[coolpurplefan]

Uh, I believe as long as it's socket 939 any CPU for that socket will work. The only exception I've heard about is mobile chips where some motherboards may not work with them. I read the 4000+ mobile chip for socket 754 was only guaranteed to work on a DFI board.

There aren't that many socket 939 CPUs you can buy now anyway. And they're in limited quantities.

 

[computer]

Thanks for the input. This is really confusing because I was looking at an Athlon 64 3200+ (ADA3200BPBOX) and it's a 2000mhz HT, but it is listed in the Aopen CPU list with "PASS" next to it!! I don't understand this.

You say they'll work, but would it be sort of, for lack of a better term, underclocked? Since it would be running HT at 1066mhz. ?
Thanks.

 

[dball3]

the 2000mhz is actually a two way bus 1000mhz in both directions, and the 1600 is for older opterons i think that ran 800mhz both directions. So there won't be any underclock, its just two different companies with two different views on ht speed.

 

[coolpurplefan]

pass means it passed the compatibility test

You can always look in the BIOS to see the speed. Or use some program. Everest used to be free. But I think something like sisoft sandra or CPU-Z.

It should run at the right speed.

Asus are good boards if you're building for the first time. I'm now using an Abit and I found the BIOS was a little less user friendly for me. But, that's just my personal take on it. Abit, Asus, DFI and MSI are well known boards although AOpen said they wanted to manufacture quality boards, I'm pretty sure they haven't been around for a while. I think they only started making motherboards like 2 years ago or something like that.

 

[o1die]

If it said "1066", that was a typo error. Intel runs at 1066, amd runs at 1600 or 2000, but cpu-z lists my board at 800 (x2=1600). Numbers are confusing sometimes.

 

[computer]

Originally posted by: coolpurplefan
pass means it passed the compatibility test

Yeah I knew that, but I find it strange it supports DC CPU's, yet there is no "PASS" next to them in the list. Of course we all know that CPU support lists are not accurate, that's typical for mobo manufacturers.

You can always look in the BIOS to see the speed. Or use some program. Everest used to be free. But I think something like sisoft sandra or CPU-Z.

How can I do that without a CPU?

Asus are good boards if you're building for the first time. I'm now using an Abit and I found the BIOS was a little less user friendly for me. But, that's just my personal take on it. Abit, Asus, DFI and MSI are well known boards although AOpen said they wanted to manufacture quality boards, I'm pretty sure they haven't been around for a while. I think they only started making motherboards like 2 years ago or something like that.

Sounds like you may have been away from PC's for a while or new to them? Asus is one of the most unreliable mobo's out now. 30% failure rate this past quarter. Abit is almost as bad. Of the last few Asus and Aopen boards I've had, half were bad. Aopen has been making mobo's for a very long time, I have some about 10 years old. Intel may be the most reliable right now.

 

[computer]

Originally posted by: o1die
If it said "1066", that was a typo error. Intel runs at 1066, amd runs at 1600 or 2000, but cpu-z lists my board at 800 (x2=1600). Numbers are confusing sometimes.

Hmm, interesting, thanks. If that was a typo they made it in several areas. That wouldn't surprise me though since like I said, they are notorious for making errors. The manual doesn't even list ANY HT specs, no 1600, no 2000, not even 1066. The 1066 is on the specs pages.

 

[computer]

Originally posted by: dball3
the 2000mhz is actually a two way bus 1000mhz in both directions, and the 1600 is for older opterons i think that ran 800mhz both directions. So there won't be any underclock, its just two different companies with two different views on ht speed.

"Two different companies"? It's just AMD, correct? Athlon, Opteron, Sempron, etc., are all AMD.

I guess it's sort of along the lines of the quad-pumped bus for Intels, like 800mhz FSB Intels are really 200mhz.

 

[dball3]

i mean two different companies as the processor "amd" and the motherboard makers. they always seem to list the specs different.

 

[computer]

Originally posted by: dball3
i mean two different companies as the processor "amd" and the motherboard makers. they always seem to list the specs different.

(I am FED UP with this go*damn forum losing my posts!!!! "OOOOPS, we've encountered an error" and there goes all of the text I typed!! :| :roll: )

Ah ok, I gotcha. Yeah, they never seem to agree on anything.

So is the consensus that this mobo will work with 2000mhz HT CPU's?
http://global.aopen.com/products_detail.aspx?Auno=1318 *
http://usa.aopen.com/products_detail.aspx?Auno=1318 *
<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="ftp://ftp.aopen.com/pub/manual/mb/nck804alfs/nck804a-ol-e.pdf">ftp://ftp.aopen.com/pub/manual/mb/nck804alfs/nck804a-ol-e.pdf</a>

* Why can't a mobo manufacturer get a webmaster that has an IQ at least in the double-digit numbers? Click "Feature" and "Spec" at both of those* URL's. :disgust: What is "feature" anyway, are they showing a movie?? :laugh:

 

[dball3]

i would say it's good to go, i googled it and came to a shopping site that had the frontside bus listed as 1000mhz. So have fun building, and feel free to msg if u run into any probs.