Will a FCPGA Celeron go on a slocket? **UPDATE** good info inside

[Maetryx]

My wife has an HP something or other and the motherboard has a Slot1, with a LX chipset. That means it has a 66MHz front side bus, and an AGP slot was invented just in time for it . Anyway, I put a 466MHz PPGA Celeron on a slocket and loaded it into her computer about 2 years ago.

And then The Sims Hot Date was released, and she's begging for more horsepower. I just stuck a GeForce 256 in the AGP, but now I'm wondering where I can go with the Slot1 and slocket. I know that up to 766MHz is still 66MHz FSB. But the highest PPGA version is 533MHz, which is barely an upgrade from 466MHz. Is that what I'm limited to? PPGA? Or would a 766MHz FCPGA fit a Socket370 to Slot1 slocket card?

Might be a voltage issue too. The 766MHz Celeron's take 1.75V, and I have no idea what the 466MHz is using, or if that is a potential problem or not.

 

[Spikesoldier]

If you want to find the voltage, take the Celeron out of the slocket, flip it over, and look at the silkscreened info on the black "underside". There's not much to go from an LX chipset, and it sounds like its a board custom for HP, which means no voltage, FSB, or multiplyer settings. You'll be better off getting a new board - or computer. Sorry, thats as far as it'll go.

 

[bacillus]

just get a slocket for a fcpga cpu & use any celeron below 850MHz.
below that speed they all run 66fsb.
you'll most likely have to set the voltage on the slocket to 1.8V to get things to work though which is slightly overvoltage!
it is possible to modify the ppga slocket for a fcpga cpu but getting a new slocket is by far the simplest route.

 

[bacillus]

btw it is irrelevant if your m/board has multiplier jumpers or not as the celeron is multiplier clock locked & will disregard any bios or jumper settings!

 

[Maetryx]

Hey, thanks for the replies! I'll look around for a slocket that fits FCPGA. I didn't know such things existed. If I can just squeeze a bit more life out of that HP system....

 

[GregMal]

Try here.............
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http://store.tekramusa.com/shop/product.asp?dept_id=3&sku=213
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Greg

 

[pookguy88]

will these fit on any BX mobo? (ie. Asus P2B)?

 

[GregMal]

They should work on any Intel LX/ZX/BX slot1 MBs.
Now the MB has to support the voltage of the Celeron2.............
I've got a LX MB that can handle up to a Celeron2 766...........
Greg

 

[Maetryx]

Link to TekRamUSA

 

[UF Jspec]

Make sure that your BIOS will recognize a Celeron at that speed. I have an Abit LM6 (LX chipset) and the BIOS is limited to 466 Mhz I believe. Abit removed this motherboard from their site so I can't double check.

 

[Slickone]

If the slocket has voltage adjustments, can't you just set it to what you need, or does the mobo have to be rated at that voltage for it's components to be able to handle it?

Also if the slocket has FSB adjustments, can he overclock from 66 to 100 even w/ his HP?

 

[GregMal]

My understanding is that the MB has to be able to handle the voltage.
Though the slotket has voltage adjustments it's just relaying this info to
the MB, it's not actually adjusting the voltage. I believe PowerLeap has
a slotket with actual voltage adjustments on the slotket, but it's
relatively expensive ($50)...........Greg

 

[oldfart]

GregMal is correct.

 

[Maetryx]

<< Also if the slocket has FSB adjustments, can he overclock from 66 to 100 even w/ his HP? >>



Hey, that's a good question. Is there a slocket that will adapt a 100MHz FSB CPU to an old LX mobo that is only capable of 66MHz FSB?

 

[GregMal]

So you want to run a Celeron 800 (100x8) at 66x8 (528) instead?????
Wouldn't ya just get a Celeron 566-766 instead???
Greg

 

[Maetryx]

Naw, we want to run it at a higher multiplier (effectively) on the 66MHz FSB. Like 66MHz * 12 = 800MHz. So we want a slocket that could make a 100*8 be a 66*12 instead.

 

[Maetryx]

Silicon Valley Compucycle is selling Super Slocket III for $9.99 here.

 

[RickH]

It's an LX motherboard---probably no voltage support less than 2.0 volts, no PCI bus speed dividers and no suported 100MHz bus. No socket can change that. The Powerleap adapter can be used sometimes, but the cost is too high. Why spend $50 for a Powerleap for an outdated motherboard, spend $100 for a new board, with ATA 100, NAT, sound, etc. R.

 

[Richardito]

<< Silicon Valley Compucycle is selling Super Slocket III for $9.99 here. >>



That sloket doesn't has voltage adjustments and seems to be of the generic kind. You can buy the MSI MS-6905 high-quality sloket with all the extras in JustDeals.com for the same mula...

 

[AkumaX]

you can buy slotkets from me!

 

[Maetryx]

I spent quite some time looking for more information on my wife's HP. It's an HP Brio 83xx series. Man, there is *no* voltage information out there on this mobo.

Anyway, I did order that Super Slocket III from SVCompucycle, and if Richardito is right, I just bought myself a useless piece of junk. I squinted at the JPG of the card and convinced myself that it had some voltage adjustment jumpers on it, but now I'm not sure.

So maybe I *will* be buying a slocket from AkumaX.

edit: I squinted even harder at the JPG of the Super Slocket III and Richardito nailed it. There is no voltage settings on that POS. *sigh*. AkumaX, YHPM.

 

[Slickone]

Supposedly, sometimes SVC doesn't ship even when they send an email saying they have. Might be worth a try calling them in the morning.

Just so you know, some slockets are for PPGA only, and not FC-PGA.

Or you can buy my unused ECS mobo (for Athlon's).

 

[Maetryx]

I emailed SVC late late last night to see if I could cancel the order, but I didn't hear back from them yet. I should have called, but I didn't think about it today until now. I'm getting a proper slocket from AkumaX now, a late model MSI.

 

[Sparty]

The MSI-6905 slocket can take you down to 1.50 volts, the real question is will your BIOS support a celeron faster then a 533. The 533a, 566, and faster chips are FCPGA's and need a newer bios version. I'm sure everything will fit fine, but the computer might not recongize the celeron 2 correctly and not know how to use it correctly, it might even make it work slower than it should, but then again maybe everything will work fine and we can just use you as our ginny pig good luck and let us know how it turns out.

 

[AkumaX]

hehe, ive run celerons that were improperly recognized in bios, but were recognized right in windows

for instance, a celeron 633->950 was recognized as "Pentium III 972mhz"

a celeron 667->1000 was a "Pentium III &34mhz" that's right &34mhz

windows did it fine

but its best to update to the latest bios anyway ( SS for BH6 )