Wikileaks releases 19K+ DNC emails, searchable

[Aegeon]

The issue is that the DNC even had to vet such an obvious scumbag which shows how stupid/unethical some of their members are like Regional Director Clayton Cox. Sad that you couldn't figure this out from the emails.

Frankly I don't think it really shows at all on its own at least since it may simply be a matter of Clayton Cox covering his butt by not just officially making the decision on his own. (Plenty of organizations tend to work that way in practice where someone doesn't want to take heat if they make a decision that ends up pissing off the wrong person of getting a problematic reaction without being able to say others were involved in the decision.)

Clearly the description of the specific email with original quotation associated with the link remains inaccurate and misleading.

 

[theeedude]

People who nominated Trump desperate to start something at the DNC.

 

[Jhhnn]

So which of the emails are "hatchet jobs"? I've read through the bolded ones and they appear legit. Be more specific.

Shit is already starting to hit the fan. Politico just apologized for running an article by the DNC before publishing hahahaha:
https://twitter.com/mlcalderone/status/757326404723810304

Cherry picked from 19,000 emails. As Aegeon points out, the author's treatment of the first one listed is a hatchet job. I'm sure as hell not going to fact check the rest.

 

[Jhhnn]

Frankly I don't think it really shows at all on its own at least since it may simply be a matter of Clayton Cox covering his butt by not just officially making the decision on his own. (Plenty of organizations tend to work that way in practice where someone doesn't want to take heat if they make a decision that ends up pissing off the wrong person of getting a problematic reaction without being able to say others were involved in the decision.)

Clearly the description of the specific email with original quotation associated with the link remains inaccurate and misleading.

They're calling foul when no foul occurred. Conspiracy theory 101.

 

[TallBill]

They're calling foul when no foul occurred. Conspiracy theory 101.

Rofl I guess every major media outlet got this one wrong too. How much is Hillary paying you?

 

[Knowing]

If they did nothing wrong, why did DWS step down? What better way to demonstrate party unity than to rally around her instead of canning her and then hiring her to the very campaign these heinous allegations suggest she supported?

 

[theeedude]

Bernie supporters emotionally needed DWS to step down because they can't accept the reality that they lost at the polls, so they need someone to blame. DWS was fine with it because she would rather take the blame than have it directed at Hillary. This was going to happen regardless of Wikileaks.

 

[SP33Demon]

They're calling foul when no foul occurred. Conspiracy theory 101.

Then why did Politico issue an apology? Why did DNC CFO Brad Marshall issue an apology? Why did their fearless leader Debbie Schultz resign after getting "quarantined" and banned from speaking at the convention?

This is just the beginning, there may be even more leaks coming from what I've heard.

 

[SP33Demon]

Bernie supporters emotionally needed DWS to step down because they can't accept the reality that they lost at the polls, so they need someone to blame. DWS was fine with it because she would rather take the blame than have it directed at Hillary. This was going to happen regardless of Wikileaks.

Yup, and hillary immediately hired her like a buffoon. Couldn't even let it simmer til after the convention. She and her campaign = bird brains.

 

[theeedude]

Apologies are free. Why NOT issue one?

 

[theeedude]

Yup, and hillary immediately hired her like a buffoon. Couldn't even let it simmer til after the convention. She and her campaign = bird brains.

She is too loyal for her own good, I agree with that, even though it's an honorary title, so technically she wasn't even hired.

 

[Greenman]

She is too loyal for her own good, I agree with that, even though it's an honorary title, so technically she wasn't even hired.

Is sky isn't even blue in your world?
Hillary is loyal to Hillary, if it was politically expedient to burn DWS at the stake, Hillary would be roasting hot dogs over her smoldering corps right now.

 

[nageov3t]

Yup, and hillary immediately hired her like a buffoon. Couldn't even let it simmer til after the convention. She and her campaign = bird brains.

I can only assume that DWS forced some kind of concession like the honorary Chair title in HRC's campaign in exchange for stepping down from the DNC quietly (if she hadn't resigned, removing her from the position would have required an angry and contested vote)... it makes no sense otherwise, considering the bad blood between Clinton and Schultz after the 2008 backstab when DWS secretly reached out to Obama offering to endorse him during the middle of the primaries, despite working for Clinton at the time.

 

[LegendKiller]

She is too loyal for her own good, I agree with that, even though it's an honorary title, so technically she wasn't even hired.

Yeah, kinda like Bill's "honorary" chancellorship that paid him $16.5mm while funneling a shit-ton of money to the school's founder through the State Dept.

 

[PokerGuy]

Holy smokes this is getting interesting.

The usual idiots will try to attack the messenger and pretend this is all just another GOP conspiracy, but the fact is the gop has nothing to do with this. These are emails straight from the horse's (or rather, donkey's?) mouth.

Of course you're also going to see the predictable "nothing unusual here, this kind of corruption and cooked behavior is perfectly normal!" type stuff to pretend this isn't a big deal. Truly pathetic.

Supposedly there's even more stuff to be released, but based on the emails already released, a couple of points:

Bernie was screwed by the corrupt DNC and HRC campaign. The actively colluded and smeared to take down his campaign. Hopefully the Bernie supporters remember how the party treated them come November when the same crooked party tries to get them to vote for crooked hildabeast.

Anyone who pretends the media in general isn't completely in the DNC/democrat hands and pocket and working actively to support the dems is willfully stupid and ignorant. Do you suppose Trump or the RNC get to call Reuters and have them push stories at their direction? CBS? CNN? Politico? The general media that idiot lefties continue to tell us is really not biased is taking direction from DNC on stories, narratives, talking points, questions to ask to attack GOP candidates etc etc. But nope, it's all just your imagination conservatives

We can finally conclusively put the myth of the unbiased main stream media to rest now. Thanks wikileaks!

 

[fskimospy]

Yes, the RNC and other Republican actors are in contact with media organizations trying to push stories or reframe existing ones on a daily basis. Everything you just accused the DNC of the RNC does and no one would even try to deny something so obvious. Reuters, CNN, etc, etc. What, did you think that the Republicans are so inept that they don't do this? How stupid do you think they are?

The media must be biased because you don't know how politics works, haha.

 

[PokerGuy]

Yes, the RNC and other Republican actors are in contact with media organizations trying to push stories or reframe existing ones on a daily basis. Everything you just accused the DNC of the RNC does and no one would even try to deny something so obvious. Reuters, CNN, etc, etc. What, did you think that the Republicans are so inept that they don't do this? How stupid do you think they are?

The media must be biased because you don't know how politics works, haha.

.... and yep, right on cue, the great defender of the "unbiased media" myth. That's sort of a "bagdad bob" job, trying to get everyone to ignore reality.

You say the RNC does all the same things, yet there is no evidence of it -- at all. Right now we know the strings the DNC pulls with the supposedly unbiased lefty media. If there's any evidence of the right having the same pull with the mainstream media (outside of maybe fox), please link us up.

 

[nageov3t]

Bernie was screwed by the corrupt DNC and HRC campaign. The actively colluded and smeared to take down his campaign.

how does the HRC campaign have anything to do with this?

 

[fskimospy]

.... and yep, right on cue, the great defender of the "unbiased media" myth. That's sort of a "bagdad bob" job, trying to get everyone to ignore reality.

You say the RNC does all the same things, yet there is no evidence of it -- at all. Right now we know the strings the DNC pulls with the supposedly unbiased lefty media. If there's any evidence of the right having the same pull with the mainstream media (outside of maybe fox), please link us up.

Here's Karl Rove discussing their attempts to pull the media's strings about Valerie Plame.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2005/jul/15/usa.sarahleft

That took me all of about zero seconds to remember. This sort of thing is literally a daily occurrence. What do you think all of their press secretariat and press liaisons do for a living? Hold press conferences? Watch TV and just take notes?

The stupidity you are accusing Republicans of being afflicted with is truly staggering.

 

[FerrelGeek]

The reps aren't called 'the stupid party' for nothing, you know. But that aside, if they weren't beating on the media to exploit this, they wouldn't be just stupid; they'd be flat out moronic. And if the show was on the other foot, the dems would be doing the same and you know ti. It's politics - a nasty dirty game, not for the faint of heart.

Yes, the RNC and other Republican actors are in contact with media organizations trying to push stories or reframe existing ones on a daily basis. Everything you just accused the DNC of the RNC does and no one would even try to deny something so obvious. Reuters, CNN, etc, etc. What, did you think that the Republicans are so inept that they don't do this? How stupid do you think they are?

The media must be biased because you don't know how politics works, haha.

 

[FerrelGeek]

Posted this in the DWS thread.

 

[PokerGuy]

Here's Karl Rove discussing their attempts to pull the media's strings about Valerie Plame.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2005/jul/15/usa.sarahleft

That took me all of about zero seconds to remember. This sort of thing is literally a daily occurrence. What do you think all of their press secretariat and press liaisons do for a living? Hold press conferences? Watch TV and just take notes?

Funny, the story you linked doesn't show anything about the RNC linking up with the popular media to collude on attacking the dems, controlling the narrative, what questions to ask and so forth. Nice try with the false equivalence, but no go.

The stupidity you are accusing Republicans of being afflicted with is truly staggering.

Again, if you have evidence of the RNC being able to pull the strings of Reuters, CBS, CNN, politico etc etc and control the narrative, link us up. Otherwise, it's just more denial and deflection.

 

[flexy]

they can't accept the reality that they lost at the polls, so they need someone to blame.

He lost at the polls, alright, since the entire system is/was setup for him to lose. What more evidence do you need?

We already know he lost at the polls, but there had been efforts for him to lose..by people WHO SHOULD BE IMPARTIAL.

 

[fskimospy]

Funny, the story you linked doesn't show anything about the RNC linking up with the popular media to collude on attacking the dems, controlling the narrative, what questions to ask and so forth. Nice try with the false equivalence, but no go.

Uhm, that's basically exactly what it shows. It shows a republican administration linking up with popular media to disseminate information that attacks their political opponents. Doesn't get much more obvious than this.

Again, if you have evidence of the RNC being able to pull the strings of Reuters, CBS, CNN, politico etc etc and control the narrative, link us up. Otherwise, it's just more denial and deflection.

I just gave it to you. Speaking of Baghdad Bob that's you right now, continuing to stick to your script even in the face of blatant evidence to the contrary. I don't even know what part you would be trying to deny. Do you deny that the RNC has people specifically hired to manipulate media coverage? Do you deny that these people regularly converse with journalists? Do you deny that these people give journalists information that they believe will lead to favorable stories? Do you deny that they try to influence the content of stories before they are published? What?

It is interesting to see you furiously attempt to argue that Repiblican politicians are incompetent.

 

[fskimospy]

The reps aren't called 'the stupid party' for nothing, you know. But that aside, if they weren't beating on the media to exploit this, they wouldn't be just stupid; they'd be flat out moronic. And if the show was on the other foot, the dems would be doing the same and you know ti. It's politics - a nasty dirty game, not for the faint of heart.

Of course, despite Pokerguy's protests otherwise they aren't stupid at all. I'm absolutely positive they have had people poring over these emails to look for bad ones that they will then feed to the media, etc, in order to try and get coverage.

Oh wait I mean they are sitting at home on their hands watching X-Files reruns hoping everything works out okay because we know the Republicans don't try to manipulate the media.