Wikileaks - "My Life in Child Porn"

[cubby1223]

Originally posted by: blackangst1

Originally posted by: ericlp
Well, there is a fine line here...

I dunno the ratio of people looking at the material VS. the people that participate in the action of making the material OR does looking at it make one act out his/her fantasy in real life? I'm not up on any of this.

I guess where I stand is.... If she/he is developed and they are consenting then... I find it REALLY hard to put someone away that has a kiddy porn mag or DVD in his/her house. That's my take on all of it even tho I don't get my jolly's watching porn. I just think if a normal person wants to buy a 15 year old porn mag then that should be his/her thing.

Question is... Where the hell do you draw the line? Tracy Lords was around 15 or 16 when she made her first porn movie. she lied about her age. but that was a long time ago. How many others have done the same?

Thats the thing. We in this country seem to think if someone is under 18, they arent capable of consenting to sex with someone OVER 18. If they do its because they were manipulated. Utter bullshit. Our views on consent are seriously fucked up. But G'damn if a 15 year old goes and massacres a family and we charge them as an adult! They sure know what they were doing then!

Are you dumb? The line has to be drawn somewhere. Why is it that you cannot legally sign a contract if you are under the age of 18?

And while I have little to no knowledge on the subject, I'd be willing to bet going after the producers would be damn near impossible of possession were legal.

 

[blackangst1]

Originally posted by: cubby1223

Originally posted by: blackangst1

Originally posted by: ericlp
Well, there is a fine line here...

I dunno the ratio of people looking at the material VS. the people that participate in the action of making the material OR does looking at it make one act out his/her fantasy in real life? I'm not up on any of this.

I guess where I stand is.... If she/he is developed and they are consenting then... I find it REALLY hard to put someone away that has a kiddy porn mag or DVD in his/her house. That's my take on all of it even tho I don't get my jolly's watching porn. I just think if a normal person wants to buy a 15 year old porn mag then that should be his/her thing.

Question is... Where the hell do you draw the line? Tracy Lords was around 15 or 16 when she made her first porn movie. she lied about her age. but that was a long time ago. How many others have done the same?

Thats the thing. We in this country seem to think if someone is under 18, they arent capable of consenting to sex with someone OVER 18. If they do its because they were manipulated. Utter bullshit. Our views on consent are seriously fucked up. But G'damn if a 15 year old goes and massacres a family and we charge them as an adult! They sure know what they were doing then!

Are you dumb? The line has to be drawn somewhere. Why is it that you cannot legally sign a contract if you are under the age of 18?

And while I have little to no knowledge on the subject, I'd be willing to bet going after the producers would be damn near impossible of possession were legal.

Are YOU dumb? Why is it you can become trained as an intelligence agent and be trusted with classified information about the USA but you cant buy a Miller Light? Thats my point. Our AOC laws are made emotionally,rather than logically. And I agree with your last statement.

 

[Deadtrees]

Was that Ann coulter who said that 'a underage boy who finds girls in his age group attractive are pedophiles, because they are finding pre-developed bodies of girls to be attractive'?

That's just plain stupid logic but when it comes to this issue, but so many people are willing to not think about anything.
For me, I don't the really know what to make out of this. I mean, back in the days it was just common for 14 year old girls to get married. I understand the line has to be drawn but the line we have looks very strage too many times.
If a 19 year old person have sex with 17 year old, that's a pedophile crime? If a teen takes a picture of herself, that's a pedophile crime?

On one hand, we have cases where young kids are being abused by being a subject of grown ups' fantasy. On one hand, we have young kids who are enjoying themselves. Why does the law process them equally when the situation is very different?

 

[Dragula22]

Originally posted by: LumbergTech

Originally posted by: wwswimming
i had a debate about this with a friend in SF a few years ago.

some city official was caught with a 15 or 16 year old woman, teenage person, girl, whatever word you want to use.

i expressed little surprise but what my friend wanted to hear was Outrage.

once a girl has the body of a woman, they are attractive, period, in the sense that they will turn a guys head.

e.g. the Reef Girls
http://reef.com/

or this week's People magazine cover person, Valerie Bertinelli - who is 50. some of the Reef Girls are younger than 18, I think.

turning the head and the person going and having sex with them is not the same thing

Okay, would you also say watching CP and having sex with them is not the same thing?

 

[Dragula22]

Originally posted by: cubby1223

Originally posted by: blackangst1

Originally posted by: ericlp
Well, there is a fine line here...

I dunno the ratio of people looking at the material VS. the people that participate in the action of making the material OR does looking at it make one act out his/her fantasy in real life? I'm not up on any of this.

I guess where I stand is.... If she/he is developed and they are consenting then... I find it REALLY hard to put someone away that has a kiddy porn mag or DVD in his/her house. That's my take on all of it even tho I don't get my jolly's watching porn. I just think if a normal person wants to buy a 15 year old porn mag then that should be his/her thing.

Question is... Where the hell do you draw the line? Tracy Lords was around 15 or 16 when she made her first porn movie. she lied about her age. but that was a long time ago. How many others have done the same?

Thats the thing. We in this country seem to think if someone is under 18, they arent capable of consenting to sex with someone OVER 18. If they do its because they were manipulated. Utter bullshit. Our views on consent are seriously fucked up. But G'damn if a 15 year old goes and massacres a family and we charge them as an adult! They sure know what they were doing then!

Are you dumb? The line has to be drawn somewhere. Why is it that you cannot legally sign a contract if you are under the age of 18?

And while I have little to no knowledge on the subject, I'd be willing to bet going after the producers would be damn near impossible of possession were legal.

Why do you figure that? You find the distribution system and go to the source.

Possession won't be legal. It will be decriminalized.