Wiki Bans Scientology

[foghorn67]

Originally posted by: videogames101

Originally posted by: foghorn67

Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt

Originally posted by: RapidSnail

Originally posted by: foghorn67

Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt

Originally posted by: Barfo
We should do like France and ban the "religion" altogether.

We should ban all religions altogether. What Scientology does is no worse than what the others do.

Why can't we ban ignorant people like you instead?

Because we can't ban him for being extreme, ignorant, or intolerant......like the religions he hates.

It's not the religions I hate, it's the people who believe in the fairy tales. If you believe that the invisible man in the sky gave you a brain USE IT!

You can start with using it to explain why your collection of violent criminals committing atrocities in gods name is better than Scientology. Go.

The religion I believe isn't really into voilent crimes. Not everyone falls within your narrow minded views.

So because you go against the majority of people on this earth, he should base his arguments on your religion because it's a minority? All we can do is argue against who is most prominent, until you ask us to argue against your religion, which you've yet to mention.

I can't tell Gag, honestly. He's just bitter. He only pops in religous threads, has a cute signature about it. Really.
He is on some kind of mission.

 

[RapidSnail]

Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt
It's not the religions I hate, it's the people who believe in the fairy tales. If you believe that the invisible man in the sky gave you a brain USE IT!

:thumbsup:

Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt
You can start with using it to explain why your collection of violent criminals committing atrocities in gods name is better than Scientology. Go.

Perhaps you can explain why you are differentiating between violent criminals no matter who their allegiance. Why should religious criminals be any different from political, secular, or other religious criminals?

Certain secular authorities during the 20th century were as despicable as the popes of the Dark Ages and jihadists of present. Political corruption is also becoming rampant, and has been responsible for sickening acts of cruelty. When you differentiate between criminals and "class" them based upon their ideology, history will be doomed to repeat itself. You only notice a particular sub-demographic of evil individuals, and you miss the "disease" itself.

Extremism, which is fueled by ignorance, intolerance, hatred, and the like, is what brings about the problems that we see. Extremism is the source of all major destructive movements. But it must be distinguished from the philosophies that it uses to enact itself. Religion happens to be one of these things because of its conglomerating effect. But in addition, politics (the state), secular ideologies, and anything that can capture a wide audience, are prime vehicles for anyone to take advantage of in vulnerable situations. As we move throughout history, we don't see an extinguishing of radicalism, but a shifting of mechanisms. When religion becomes a minority, other movements will take its place. Do not be deceived.

A fool with religion is a fool without religion.

 

[videogames101]

Originally posted by: RapidSnail

Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt
It's not the religions I hate, it's the people who believe in the fairy tales. If you believe that the invisible man in the sky gave you a brain USE IT!

:thumbsup:

Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt
You can start with using it to explain why your collection of violent criminals committing atrocities in gods name is better than Scientology. Go.

Perhaps you can explain why you are differentiating between violent criminals no matter who their allegiance. Why should religious criminals be any different from political, secular, or other religious criminals?

Certain secular authorities during the 20th century were as despicable as the popes of the Dark Ages and jihadists of present. Political corruption is also becoming rampant, and has been responsible for sickening acts of cruelty. When you differentiate between criminals and "class" them based upon their ideology, history will be doomed to repeat itself. You only notice a particular sub-demographic of evil individuals, and you miss the "disease" itself.

Extremism, which is fueled by ignorance, intolerance, hatred, and the like, is what brings about the problems that we see. Extremism is the source of all major destructive movements. But it must be distinguished from the philosophies that it uses to enact itself. Religion happens to be one of these things because of its conglomerating effect. But in addition, politics (the state), secular ideologies, and anything that can capture a wide audience, are prime vehicles for anyone to take advantage of in vulnerable situations. As we move throughout history, we don't see an extinguishing of radicalism, but a shifting of mechanisms. When religion becomes a minority, other movements will take its place. Do not be deceived.

A fool with religion is a fool without religion.

Imagine

 

[foghorn67]

Originally posted by: videogames101

Originally posted by: RapidSnail

Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt
It's not the religions I hate, it's the people who believe in the fairy tales. If you believe that the invisible man in the sky gave you a brain USE IT!

:thumbsup:

Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt
You can start with using it to explain why your collection of violent criminals committing atrocities in gods name is better than Scientology. Go.

Perhaps you can explain why you are differentiating between violent criminals no matter who their allegiance. Why should religious criminals be any different from political, secular, or other religious criminals?

Certain secular authorities during the 20th century were as despicable as the popes of the Dark Ages and jihadists of present. Political corruption is also becoming rampant, and has been responsible for sickening acts of cruelty. When you differentiate between criminals and "class" them based upon their ideology, history will be doomed to repeat itself. You only notice a particular sub-demographic of evil individuals, and you miss the "disease" itself.

Extremism, which is fueled by ignorance, intolerance, hatred, and the like, is what brings about the problems that we see. Extremism is the source of all major destructive movements. But it must be distinguished from the philosophies that it uses to enact itself. Religion happens to be one of these things because of its conglomerating effect. But in addition, politics (the state), secular ideologies, and anything that can capture a wide audience, are prime vehicles for anyone to take advantage of in vulnerable situations. As we move throughout history, we don't see an extinguishing of radicalism, but a shifting of mechanisms. When religion becomes a minority, other movements will take its place. Do not be deceived.

A fool with religion is a fool without religion.

Imagine

You actually believe nobody would be voilent in a world without religion?
Pure imagination I guess.

 

[videogames101]

Originally posted by: foghorn67

Originally posted by: videogames101

Originally posted by: RapidSnail

Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt
It's not the religions I hate, it's the people who believe in the fairy tales. If you believe that the invisible man in the sky gave you a brain USE IT!

:thumbsup:

Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt
You can start with using it to explain why your collection of violent criminals committing atrocities in gods name is better than Scientology. Go.

Perhaps you can explain why you are differentiating between violent criminals no matter who their allegiance. Why should religious criminals be any different from political, secular, or other religious criminals?

Certain secular authorities during the 20th century were as despicable as the popes of the Dark Ages and jihadists of present. Political corruption is also becoming rampant, and has been responsible for sickening acts of cruelty. When you differentiate between criminals and "class" them based upon their ideology, history will be doomed to repeat itself. You only notice a particular sub-demographic of evil individuals, and you miss the "disease" itself.

Extremism, which is fueled by ignorance, intolerance, hatred, and the like, is what brings about the problems that we see. Extremism is the source of all major destructive movements. But it must be distinguished from the philosophies that it uses to enact itself. Religion happens to be one of these things because of its conglomerating effect. But in addition, politics (the state), secular ideologies, and anything that can capture a wide audience, are prime vehicles for anyone to take advantage of in vulnerable situations. As we move throughout history, we don't see an extinguishing of radicalism, but a shifting of mechanisms. When religion becomes a minority, other movements will take its place. Do not be deceived.

A fool with religion is a fool without religion.

Imagine

You actually believe nobody would be voilent in a world without religion?
Pure imagination I guess.

Nope, I imagine that without radical Islam, that picture could still be taken.

 

[RapidSnail]

Originally posted by: videogames101
Imagine

*sigh*

This is exactly why it will happen again, and again, and again.....

 

[Regs]

Originally posted by: irishScott
Banning a group this large is more symbolic than effective. All they can really do is ban IPs. If the scientologists really care it's not that hard to open up a proxy connection, or just use a home computer.

In any case, I agree with the principle. They ban individual accounts for pulling bullshit like this. This is just that on a larger scale.

Ban the use of proxys? Don't proxy servers use the same suffix or maybe the IPs? I knew AOL accounts in the old days use to have thename.1323@proxy.yahoo.com or some crap like that. Though I guess even then it's not to hard to use a online IP spoofer.

 

[Regs]

Originally posted by: techs
[


Xenu from Wiki:

Hubbard wrote that seventy-five million years ago.....

You had me at bull but lost me at shit.

 

[GagHalfrunt]

Originally posted by: foghorn67

Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt

Originally posted by: RapidSnail

Originally posted by: foghorn67

Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt

Originally posted by: Barfo
We should do like France and ban the "religion" altogether.

We should ban all religions altogether. What Scientology does is no worse than what the others do.

Why can't we ban ignorant people like you instead?

Because we can't ban him for being extreme, ignorant, or intolerant......like the religions he hates.

It's not the religions I hate, it's the people who believe in the fairy tales. If you believe that the invisible man in the sky gave you a brain USE IT!

You can start with using it to explain why your collection of violent criminals committing atrocities in gods name is better than Scientology. Go.

The religion I believe isn't really into voilent crimes. Not everyone falls within your narrow minded views.

Explain why it's better than Scientology.

 

[mugs]

Is it so hard to type "pedia" so your title makes sense? Since there are thousands of wikis.

 

[GagHalfrunt]

Originally posted by: RapidSnail

Perhaps you can explain why you are differentiating between violent criminals no matter who their allegiance. Why should religious criminals be any different from political, secular, or other religious criminals?

The difference I draw is that criminals committing the crimes in Gods name is just further evidence of the fact that God doesn't exist or that he's a thug criminal if he does. But the fact is that this is a Scientology thread, so comparing it to other religions is valid. I want the Scientology haters to come up with concrete reasons why Scientology is different from or inferior to their own invisible man in the sky. Really, bearded old guys, blue guys with 6 arms, guys with winged helmets, feathered snakes, Lord Xenu, it's all the same. But the people that seem to object to Scientology most strenuously believe in one of those other things and asking them to explain the difference is not out of line.

I'll be happy to debate the secular criminals vs religious criminals thing further, but this isn't the thread for it. HERE we are debating the criminals of one religion vs the criminals of other religions and trying to draw a distinction of why one group of criminals is better. I say they're not and I ask the adherents of those criminals to explain why. To me a bunch of brainwashed Xenu-Zombies editing Wikipedia is FAR less of a problem than what other religions are doing in the name of their faith. Do you disagree?

 

[0roo0roo]

bingo, scientology bashing tends to come with deep hipocrisy, gets worse in europe where they actively go after it. death count alone by ideology shows that rationally scientology is the least of our problems.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
bingo, scientology bashing tends to come with deep hipocrisy, gets worse in europe where they actively go after it. death count alone by ideology shows that rationally scientology is the least of our problems.

Try that in english

 

[Riceninja]

scientology is much tamer than other religions imo. at the very least its killed far less.

 

[GagHalfrunt]

Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
bingo, scientology bashing tends to come with deep hipocrisy, gets worse in europe where they actively go after it. death count alone by ideology shows that rationally scientology is the least of our problems.

Try that in english

That was in English and was easy to understand. You might want to take a few reading comprehension courses.