sniperruff
Lifer
you shouldn't, but chances of an explosion is pretty slim i think.
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Wife refueled her car with Engine still running!?!?!
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It's idiotic and LAZY is what it is.
It's just like seat belts.... sure you dont need them if everything works right so whats the point of wearing them?
It's when something goes wrong... which the laws of nature and statistics something always does eventually.
Have you ever watched Gasloline really close? Do you have any idea how many fumes leak off there and away from the Gas?? The fumes flow all over. Even with the vapor recovery system (which is there for the obvious reason of how dangerous those fumes are).
All it takes is one faulty wire somewhere on the car.... or what about a back fire?? Those happen all the time. (I've seen a car back fire and fire shoots out the tail pipe and also seen fire shoot out the top of engines) What about all the super red hot components in the exhaust system? So lets say the person in front of you (or her) is refuleing.... now your engine is dangerously close to that nozzle and gas fumes pouring out. All is needed is for your cars ignition system to spark a little (and yes it does happen a lot, poorly seated spark plug wires, or old cracked wires, etc). and boom! There are a hundred other factors.
Lets not forget if your car slips into gear on accident? You dont think it ever happens??? Happens all the time. automatic shutoff on a pump can fail spilling gasoline everywhere (it has and does happen even if rare, and having an engine running makes it all that much more dangerous).
Look it's stupid it just is. DONT DO IT! If you want to risk your own life fine go base jumping off short bridges or something but DONT risk MY life or other innocent more responsible peoples lives doing stupid things like this. Driving is dangerous enough as it is dont unnessasirly raise the risks or being on the road because you're lazy or cant live without your AC for two minutes.
It's just like seat belts.... sure you dont need them if everything works right so whats the point of wearing them?
It's when something goes wrong... which the laws of nature and statistics something always does eventually.
Have you ever watched Gasloline really close? Do you have any idea how many fumes leak off there and away from the Gas?? The fumes flow all over. Even with the vapor recovery system (which is there for the obvious reason of how dangerous those fumes are).
All it takes is one faulty wire somewhere on the car.... or what about a back fire?? Those happen all the time. (I've seen a car back fire and fire shoots out the tail pipe and also seen fire shoot out the top of engines) What about all the super red hot components in the exhaust system? So lets say the person in front of you (or her) is refuleing.... now your engine is dangerously close to that nozzle and gas fumes pouring out. All is needed is for your cars ignition system to spark a little (and yes it does happen a lot, poorly seated spark plug wires, or old cracked wires, etc). and boom! There are a hundred other factors.
Lets not forget if your car slips into gear on accident? You dont think it ever happens??? Happens all the time. automatic shutoff on a pump can fail spilling gasoline everywhere (it has and does happen even if rare, and having an engine running makes it all that much more dangerous).
Look it's stupid it just is. DONT DO IT! If you want to risk your own life fine go base jumping off short bridges or something but DONT risk MY life or other innocent more responsible peoples lives doing stupid things like this. Driving is dangerous enough as it is dont unnessasirly raise the risks or being on the road because you're lazy or cant live without your AC for two minutes.
loup garou
Lifer
Can anyone point out a news story of a gas station fire caused by a running engine?
I'm not saying that I have ever done it, or I would do it, and I don't really see the point in doing it at all, but really, it's no more dangerous than just standing there in a gas station filling up your stopped car.
Some of you guys have your safety helmets on a bit too tight with these reactions, IMO.
feelingshorter
Platinum Member
I turn my car off anyways since it wastes gas.
loup garou
Lifer
I was waiting for somebody to post that. :roll:
Idling for 10 seconds is often more gas used than restarting according to a quick google search. Not sure where 90 seconds came from.
Google also reveals that the risk is of super heated exhaust and just the fact that if something does catch fire, a running care is a much greater hazard somehow. Didn't quite follow the logic.
Google also reveals that the risk is of super heated exhaust and just the fact that if something does catch fire, a running care is a much greater hazard somehow. Didn't quite follow the logic.
GuitarDaddy
Lifer
Dooh! Why do you think they made the law?
It was never conclusively proven, but was the main suspected cause of a gas station fire/explosion a few miles from where I lived as a child. The multiple explosions wiped out two city blocks and killed 4 people including a cameraman from the local news station.
And I'm quite sure this isn't the only case
eh.. my dad leaves it running if theres other people in the car so that the heat/AC/music/whatever will continue. I never do it simply because when im driving its usually by myself, and i wouldnt leave the keys in the car while running with noone in it.
I think you're over-reacting.
I think you're over-reacting.
Pepsi90919
Lifer
if i get out of the car, so do my keys
0roo0roo
No Lifer
womens....
Who Are the Victims?
Of the refueling fires reported, 50 percent of the cases involved the person
getting back into the vehicle while the gas was still flowing into the tank. When
they return to the fill area and touch the nozzle to complete the fillup, a static
spark ignites the fumes, which causes a flash fire. Of the static fires reported, 78
percent happen to women. Why? Some of the reasons why motorists re-enter
their cars during refueling seem to be gender specific:
? return the credit card to purse
? get money out of purse
? check on the kids
? write a check
? get warm
? write down odometer reading
? use the cell phone
? put on lipstick
the link for the rest
Safety Guidelines when Refueling
1. Always turn off your vehicle engine while refueling.
2. Stay near the vehicle fueling point during the process.
3. Never smoke, light matches, or use lighters while refueling.
4. Cellular phones and other electronic devices may have the potential to emit
electrical charges, and should therefore be left in the vehicle during fueling.
(There have been no reported fires due to cell phone use.)
5. Do not get back into your vehicle during refueling ? even when using the
nozzle?s automatic hold-open latch. If you must re-enter your vehicle, discharge
static electricity buildup when you get out by touching the outside metal portion of
your vehicle, away from the filling point, before attempting to remove the nozzle.
6. To avoid gasoline spills, do not overfill or top off your tank. The fuel
dispenser will shut off automatically when the tank is full.
7. Use only the hold-open latch provided on the gasoline nozzle.
Never jam or force the hold-open latch open by using some other
object, such as the gas cap.
8. When dispensing gasoline into a portable gasoline can, use only an approved
container. Always place the container on the ground and keep the pump nozzle
in contact with the container when refueling to avoid a static electricity ignition of
fuel vapors. Containers should never be filled inside a vehicle, in the trunk, on the
bed of a pickup or flatbed truck, or on the floor of a trailer. The bed of the truck
and the bed liner act as insulators, as does the carpeting in a car or in its trunk,
which may allow static electricity to build up in the can while it is being filled. That
static electricity could create a spark between the container and the fuel nozzle.
9. If a flash fire occurs during refueling, you should leave the nozzle in the
vehicle fill pipe and back away from the vehicle. Notify the station attendant at
once so that all dispensing devices and pumps can be shut off with emergency
controls. If the facility is unattended, use the emergency intercom to summon
help and the emergency shutdown button to shut off the pump.
show her this and make her do something on her knees for penance...😉
Who Are the Victims?
Of the refueling fires reported, 50 percent of the cases involved the person
getting back into the vehicle while the gas was still flowing into the tank. When
they return to the fill area and touch the nozzle to complete the fillup, a static
spark ignites the fumes, which causes a flash fire. Of the static fires reported, 78
percent happen to women. Why? Some of the reasons why motorists re-enter
their cars during refueling seem to be gender specific:
? return the credit card to purse
? get money out of purse
? check on the kids
? write a check
? get warm
? write down odometer reading
? use the cell phone
? put on lipstick
the link for the rest
Safety Guidelines when Refueling
1. Always turn off your vehicle engine while refueling.
2. Stay near the vehicle fueling point during the process.
3. Never smoke, light matches, or use lighters while refueling.
4. Cellular phones and other electronic devices may have the potential to emit
electrical charges, and should therefore be left in the vehicle during fueling.
(There have been no reported fires due to cell phone use.)
5. Do not get back into your vehicle during refueling ? even when using the
nozzle?s automatic hold-open latch. If you must re-enter your vehicle, discharge
static electricity buildup when you get out by touching the outside metal portion of
your vehicle, away from the filling point, before attempting to remove the nozzle.
6. To avoid gasoline spills, do not overfill or top off your tank. The fuel
dispenser will shut off automatically when the tank is full.
7. Use only the hold-open latch provided on the gasoline nozzle.
Never jam or force the hold-open latch open by using some other
object, such as the gas cap.
8. When dispensing gasoline into a portable gasoline can, use only an approved
container. Always place the container on the ground and keep the pump nozzle
in contact with the container when refueling to avoid a static electricity ignition of
fuel vapors. Containers should never be filled inside a vehicle, in the trunk, on the
bed of a pickup or flatbed truck, or on the floor of a trailer. The bed of the truck
and the bed liner act as insulators, as does the carpeting in a car or in its trunk,
which may allow static electricity to build up in the can while it is being filled. That
static electricity could create a spark between the container and the fuel nozzle.
9. If a flash fire occurs during refueling, you should leave the nozzle in the
vehicle fill pipe and back away from the vehicle. Notify the station attendant at
once so that all dispensing devices and pumps can be shut off with emergency
controls. If the facility is unattended, use the emergency intercom to summon
help and the emergency shutdown button to shut off the pump.
show her this and make her do something on her knees for penance...😉
JulesMaximus
No Lifer
I found this on the Petroleum Equipment Institute website:
Besides, it's the law. Now STFU with all this nonsense about "I've never heard a news story about this causing a fire so it must not be true" bullsh!t. Maybe the reason you don't hear about gas fires at gasoline stations all that often are because most people have enough sense to follow this simple rule...:roll:
Besides, it's the law. Now STFU with all this nonsense about "I've never heard a news story about this causing a fire so it must not be true" bullsh!t. Maybe the reason you don't hear about gas fires at gasoline stations all that often are because most people have enough sense to follow this simple rule...:roll:
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