Originally posted by: Titan
Ugh, I hope she does ok man, that sucks. If it's not dire you may want to consult a Naturopath for a second opinion.
I've never had problems with gall stones, but did the cleanse for them. You can find it on google. but this is basically what you do:
don't eat any solid foods after noon a day, just water until evening.
Take some epsom salts in the evening like 3-4 hours before bed.
Get a pint of olive oil (or at least a cup for small people) chill it if you want, cold-pressed extra virgin good stuff is my preference.
Get 1/2 cup of fresh-squeezed lemon juice
every 15 minutes, drink a big sip (mouthful) of olive oil and a little sip of lemon juice. You can't chug oil cuz you will throw up. Wait at least 15 minutes between sips and go until all the oil is gone.
Go to bed, trying to sleep on your right side.
In the morning, this changes your oil, you can't hold it in, you just run to the bathroom. But this does clean out gall stones and some people catch them in a net in the toilet. Some people report stones the size of golf balls.
I've done this twice, with a pint or more of olive oil, and I was fine. But I am a big guy who didn't have gall stones. It is disgusting, but not the most disgusting thing I ever drank (That was whole buttermilk) and chilling it helps with taste.
I am not a doctor and do not do this unless you consult a doctor first. Just letting you know it is out there. It is an alternative for people who really hate surgery.
Originally posted by: dougp
Ah Waggy, I feel bad for your wife - I had my gallbladder removed when I was 21, I had around 5 attacks before I actually went to the doctor. Some people say it's worse than child birth when you pass a gallstone.
The surgery's not bad if you have the "typical" surgery - 4 holes, one at the sternum, one under the belly button and two above the gallbladder itself. If you're wife is overweight, or anything has shifted or she's had a c-section, then she might have to go with the more invasive surgery. My surgery was around $21,000 total after all was said and done - but I had insurance.
This will cause a change in diet for your wife - she won't be able to process fats as well, and it can cause diarrhea. It'll take time but the body can grow accustomed to processing the bile without storing it. Send me a PM if you have anymore questions, or just post em here - I don't mind sharing.
Originally posted by: NoReMoRsE
The typical mnemonic taught in med school about gallstones is the 5 F's: Fat, Female, Forty, Fertile, Flatulence
That said, I wouldn't inform my patients of this mnemonic.
Good luck with the surgery. It's a simple laparoscopic procedure; I was first-assist on many of these procedures as a first-year med student. It's too bad you have to pay out of pocket. Canadians take this for granted; here the surgery would be free.
Originally posted by: Titan
Originally posted by: Wonderful Pork
Originally posted by: Titan
Ugh, I hope she does ok man, that sucks. If it's not dire you may want to consult a Naturopath for a second opinion.
I've never had problems with gall stones, but did the cleanse for them. You can find it on google. but this is basically what you do:
don't eat any solid foods after noon a day, just water until evening.
Take some epsom salts in the evening like 3-4 hours before bed.
Get a pint of olive oil (or at least a cup for small people) chill it if you want, cold-pressed extra virgin good stuff is my preference.
Get 1/2 cup of fresh-squeezed lemon juice
every 15 minutes, drink a big sip (mouthful) of olive oil and a little sip of lemon juice. You can't chug oil cuz you will throw up. Wait at least 15 minutes between sips and go until all the oil is gone.
Go to bed, trying to sleep on your right side.
In the morning, this changes your oil, you can't hold it in, you just run to the bathroom. But this does clean out gall stones and some people catch them in a net in the toilet. Some people report stones the size of golf balls.
I've done this twice, with a pint or more of olive oil, and I was fine. But I am a big guy who didn't have gall stones. It is disgusting, but not the most disgusting thing I ever drank (That was whole buttermilk) and chilling it helps with taste.
I am not a doctor and do not do this unless you consult a doctor first. Just letting you know it is out there. It is an alternative for people who really hate surgery.
Did you try this even if you did not have any gallstone pain/problems? Approx how old are you?
That sounds just awful, but hey, if it works...
I did it when I was 26 and 27, I'm 28 now, I am overdue. It has to be extra virgin, but I found the normal supermarket variety had me burping up olive oil and the fancy stuff from the natural foods store didn't (cold pressed) so I recommend that.
Some athletes do this to boost their energy level. About 2 weeks after I did this, I was bouncing off the walls like super mario. I didn't have any problems, but it is a liver supportive cleanse, which is what I was going for, even though it targets the gall bladder.
Originally posted by: Aquaman
Originally posted by: Sea Moose
:camera: of something?
For Sea Moose.
Cheers,
Aquaman
Originally posted by: waggy
OK I'm back..
she had the surgery at 10. the surgery went great. but they thought the little opening might be blocked by a stone. So they did another procedure where they go in the mouth and make the opening wider.
they did that at 245. it went great also. the surgeon explained int detail (he even had pictures of it!) what he did.
she fell asleep so i came home. they said she might be coming home tomorrow afternoon. it depends on her pain level and if she is sick.
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: waggy
OK I'm back..
she had the surgery at 10. the surgery went great. but they thought the little opening might be blocked by a stone. So they did another procedure where they go in the mouth and make the opening wider.
they did that at 245. it went great also. the surgeon explained int detail (he even had pictures of it!) what he did.
she fell asleep so i came home. they said she might be coming home tomorrow afternoon. it depends on her pain level and if she is sick.
I had 3 of those through the mouth Procedures. "Woke" up in the middle of one of them. :Q
Glad to hear all went well.
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: waggy
OK I'm back..
she had the surgery at 10. the surgery went great. but they thought the little opening might be blocked by a stone. So they did another procedure where they go in the mouth and make the opening wider.
they did that at 245. it went great also. the surgeon explained int detail (he even had pictures of it!) what he did.
she fell asleep so i came home. they said she might be coming home tomorrow afternoon. it depends on her pain level and if she is sick.
I had 3 of those through the mouth Procedures. "Woke" up in the middle of one of them. :Q
Glad to hear all went well.
ok shit that would be scary
Originally posted by: Regs
They drop the scope through the mouth?
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: Regs
They drop the scope through the mouth?
yeap. kinda cool. good thing my wife is used to takeing big things in her mouth! 😀
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: waggy
OK I'm back..
she had the surgery at 10. the surgery went great. but they thought the little opening might be blocked by a stone. So they did another procedure where they go in the mouth and make the opening wider.
they did that at 245. it went great also. the surgeon explained int detail (he even had pictures of it!) what he did.
she fell asleep so i came home. they said she might be coming home tomorrow afternoon. it depends on her pain level and if she is sick.
I had 3 of those through the mouth Procedures. "Woke" up in the middle of one of them. :Q
Glad to hear all went well.
ok shit that would be scary
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: Regs
They drop the scope through the mouth?
yeap. kinda cool. good thing my wife is used to taking big things in her mouth! 😀