Wich card should i buy!?!?! o_O?

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elnica

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at first i had in mind the 9800GTX, but now im thinking whats best for my option, so a 500watt psu would be fine for a 9800GTX? another thing, now that Edplayer u mentioned de 4850, i was forgetting that card, i was trying to stay with nvidia but dont know how well are ati performing on the compatibility side, like i mentioned before , i had a X850PRO and it geve me quite lot of problems with games and compatibility, plus nvidia now has physx, so on that side i favor nvidia, but ive read that 4850 its quite a monster performing :p , ,

does having pci-e1 limits my card by much?
 

happy medium

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Originally posted by: elnica
at first i had in mind the 9800GTX, but now im thinking whats best for my option, so a 500watt psu would be fine for a 9800GTX? another thing, now that Edplayer u mentioned de 4850, i was forgetting that card, i was trying to stay with nvidia but dont know how well are ati performing on the compatibility side, like i mentioned before , i had a X850PRO and it geve me quite lot of problems with games and compatibility, plus nvidia now has physx, so on that side i favor nvidia, but ive read that 4850 its quite a monster performing :p , ,

does having pci-e1 limits my card by much?

A 4850 is faster then a 9800gtx and will run on a good 500watt psu.
And no your pci-e 1.0 will not limit your card at all.
If you want to spend a few bucks it's your best choice.
It mabe a little overkill at 1280x1024 but who ever heard of overkill with computers?:D

 

elnica

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:D ill reasearch about 4850 and 9800GTX good deals, and ill inform you guys :D, to get some feedback:D
 

cusideabelincoln

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Originally posted by: happy medium
Best prices I could find on newegg.........

9800gt 100$AR

http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16814162017

9600gt 70$AR

http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16814162007

Thats 30% with my math.

Now is the 9600gt 30% slower? no.

Will the 64sp's on the 9600gt cripple it before the 9800gt's 112sp's. Yes

That's where you get your moneys worth.
So more performance now and even better performance later.
I say spend the 30 bucks for the 40%+ extra shaders. Wouldn't you?

You're forgetting that G94 has some improvements over the 8800's G92, so its shaders are a bit more efficient (from what I've gathered from reviews) than the 8800GT's. Plus clock speed would factor into everything, but there are many different factory overclocks for both the 9600GT and 8800GT available so ultimate performance can vary. At 1440x900, a 9600GT is going to give him elnica about the same playing experience as an 8800GT. It will also consume quite a bit less power and use less electricity.

Originally posted by: elnica
i forgot to mention my computer has PCI-E 1, so i guess my cards will never run to its full potential, well i guess , is it much the lost of the performance ?

The bandwidth of a PCI-E 1.0 x16 slot has not been matched even by the high-end cards like a GTX 280, so an 8800GT or 9600GT will work just as well in your system.
 

edplayer

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Originally posted by: elnica
ok i found 2 PSU a Corsair 750 at 126$-20 rebate but is not modular and a 520 wich is modular at 114$ - 15 rebate , both corsair. Ill like the modular better because of the less cable mess, any bad experience with corsair PSu or modular psu's?

http://www.amazon.com/CORSAIR-...qid=1225947124&sr=8-12

http://www.amazon.com/CORSAIR-...qid=1225947156&sr=8-39


Corsair has a very good reputation in power supplies. But those seem like overkill for any videocard mentioned in this thread. I'm guessing that overclocking the cpu isn't possible on that motherboard? Even with a lot of hard drives, that cheap OCZ posted above should handle the cards mentioned.

edit: Sorry, didn't see that OCZ psu has a crappy cable setup


If you do want Corsair:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16817139005

a 650TX for $70 after rebate


http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16817139001

the 520HX for $5 less (you posted a link to a 620HX with a 520W picture)


Here is an Antec NeoPower 650W (modular) for $75:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16817371011

$20 more gets you a combo with an Antec 300 case (free shipping on both)
 

BenSkywalker

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If you end up looking for a PSU+GPU combo in the ~$150 price range at this point in time this board is your best option IMO. That particular one has a fairly decent overclock on it out of the factory(it is ~6%-8% faster then reference) and is priced less then the 9800GTX(it will be considerably faster in almost everything).

I see you are interested in a modular PSU, that Antec PSU edplayer listed is probably the best deal you are going to find, that is an insane price point for a PSU of that level(quality+power output). That would have you just a hair over $200 all told after rebates, and you would be looking significantly better then you are now.

As far as ATi drivers/compatability goes, I still don't think they are quite up to nV as far as newer games go, but that is mainly talking minor glitches here or there, nothing at all like the utterly disgusting drivers they offered a few years ago. Many on these forums think that ATi has even surpassed nV in driver quality.

I see the same thing happening here. It's allready happening with Crysis and other more modern games (Stalker,Farcry2 ect. ect.).

Time will tell?

I showed you some links demonstrating the 9600GT under maximum shader load flat out beating the 8800GT in Crysis highest settings- this is NOTHING like the situation you are talking about. The 9600GTs shaders are more powerful and clocked higher then the 8800GT. Yes, the 8800GT has more shaders- but the 3850 has more shaders then the 280GTX too :) Given, that is a much larger architectural difference but in any realistic sense those boards are far too close in performance to warrant anything approaching the price difference we are currently seeing.
 

elnica

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i was checking for HD 4850 prices but i only seem to find over 200$ and the 9800GTX+ is around 184 right now so im having problems deciding XD, the other thing is that i cant buy from newegg my CC is international and they dont allow it so its a sad thing T_T