Why you should Enable WEP

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KeyserSoze

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Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation
WEP is dead.

I hate it when people say this. Upgrade your firmware, and it sends out less "Level 4" frames, required to capture the required data to crack. And even then, very few people have the know how, OR desire to do it.

That being said....I have WPA (PSK) :D



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TechnoKid

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Originally posted by: FreshPrince
the least you should have for wireless is [WPA + AES]

not all pc/pci cards or laptops support the WPA encryption, so if you have a mix on the network, you gotta use the weakest link in the chain; this is as far as I know. I had to use wep on a friends setup/secure that I did, because her roomate had a non wpa laptop card, while she had a linksys pci card on her pc; running off a WRT54G.
 

FoBoT

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Originally posted by: Bootprint
Originally posted by: Apathetic
Originally posted by: FoBoT
i just use 40 bit WEP, but i could probably go with nothing. the nearest house to me is out of range (about half a mile) and unless somebody is war driving on a tractor, i don't have to worry about that. living in the country has some benefits

lol - war driving on a tractor.

Dave

He forgot to be on the look out for war-flyers.

if somebody parks a balloon overhead, i'll go to WPA and put my MAC's into the router
 

tami

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i live in manhattan as well, and in my apartment, there are 15+ available wireless networks. they're not that stable, for the most part, but people take advantage of them very often and before our wireless started working, we always defaulted to another network that had decent reception.

it is very common to have wireless internet accessibility in nyc. and people who fail to secure their wireless access points are the ones who really should be held accountable.
 

TechnoKid

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Originally posted by: Hardcore
You know the default Linksys admin password is Admin, right?

but, you know that remote [wireless] configuration is disabled by default?
 

Bootprint

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Originally posted by: FoBoT
Originally posted by: Bootprint
Originally posted by: Apathetic
Originally posted by: FoBoT
i just use 40 bit WEP, but i could probably go with nothing. the nearest house to me is out of range (about half a mile) and unless somebody is war driving on a tractor, i don't have to worry about that. living in the country has some benefits

lol - war driving on a tractor.

Dave

He forgot to be on the look out for war-flyers.

if somebody parks a balloon overhead, i'll go to WPA and put my MAC's into the router

Noted.

<starts searching ebay for hot air balloons. Now would that be under vehicles?>
 

MrBond

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Originally posted by: FoBoT
i just use 40 bit WEP, but i could probably go with nothing. the nearest house to me is out of range (about half a mile) and unless somebody is war driving on a tractor, i don't have to worry about that. living in the country has some benefits
My dad is mega-paranoid when it comes to computer stuff (runs a software firewall on his desktop pc that's behind a hardware firewall), so he was worried when I setup a wireless network at their house (in the country) so my mom could surf with her laptop. He was worried about people stealing the DSL service. He has one neighbor within WAP range, he's friends with the guy, and they still use a WebTV to access the internet.

None the less, he was worried about someone listening in, so it runs the highest strenght WEP with mac adress filtering. I told him it was his job to spot any cars parked out in our front yard trying to crack it.

 

KeyserSoze

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Originally posted by: jemcam
Originally posted by: ElFenix
nah, just ban MACs, so much easier

I'm no expert, but I understand that filtering MAC addresses is more secure.

It's "more secure" than not doing anything at all. But doesn't really do much. I DO NOT know much about networks at all, but with one program off the web (Etherreal), I can "sniff" out any MAC addresses that are on the network. Then, download a MAC spoofer, and I'm on. I seriously can do this in just a few minutes, and like I said...I don't know much about networks at all.

Use WEP, OR if your hardware supports it use WPA. Check manufacturer's for Firmware updates, as some of them slowly release updated software.



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imthebadguy

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ha, i usually pick up neighbor connections, but i like having my own. either way im not a fan of wep cause i can never remember the damn code, so i just use mac filtering, works better than wep imo....
 

MBony

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Can someone answer this question pertaining to wireless router SSID's. Which brand defaults the SSID to 'default'?
 

TechnoKid

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Originally posted by: imthebadguy
ha, i usually pick up neighbor connections, but i like having my own. either way im not a fan of wep cause i can never remember the damn code, so i just use mac filtering, works better than wep imo....

mac filtering is not secure at all, imo.
 

TechnoKid

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Originally posted by: MBony
Can someone answer this question pertaining to wireless router SSID's. Which brand defaults the SSID to 'default'?

i think DLink has "default" set as the SSID.
 

ActuaryTm

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Originally posted by: MBony
Can someone answer this question pertaining to wireless router SSID's. Which brand defaults the SSID to 'default'?
Sounds as though perhaps someone has plans to log into another's router, hoping they have not changed the default password.
 

FreshPrince

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Originally posted by: TechnoKid
Originally posted by: FreshPrince
the least you should have for wireless is [WPA + AES]

not all pc/pci cards or laptops support the WPA encryption, so if you have a mix on the network, you gotta use the weakest link in the chain; this is as far as I know. I had to use wep on a friends setup/secure that I did, because her roomate had a non wpa laptop card, while she had a linksys pci card on her pc; running off a WRT54G.

true...

but still, if I were to run a wireless network at home, that is what I'll do

<- still wired at the house.

wireless for work is out of the question :)
 

jpsmoney

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that's pretty funny. i used to leave my router open just too see who tries to use it. i think NetGear just calls it "NETGEAR"...
 

KeyserSoze

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While we're on topic here, does anyone know of a site that has all default usernames/passwords, and SSID's for router manufacturers?

I saw one once in the Networking forum, but can't find it.

My google skills have failed me.





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jagec

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Originally posted by: DougK62
Originally posted by: DaVortex
I live in a condo and I have a centrino laptop. I have been getting free internet for the past 2 months and the connection is pretty fast. Is it illegal to do this?

Is stealing legal?

it's a gray area. Do you leave a garden hose strung out into your neighbor's lawn, then accuse them of "stealing water"?

I don't do it, but I certainly wouldn't consider it quite the same as taking someone's wallet or anything.
 

TechnoKid

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Originally posted by: KeyserSoze
While we're on topic here, does anyone know of a site that has all default usernames/passwords, and SSID's for router manufacturers?

I saw one once in the Networking forum, but can't find it.

My google skills have failed me.





KeyserSoze

Found Something but why would you need it?

also this

and this
 

MBony

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Originally posted by: KeyserSoze
While we're on topic here, does anyone know of a site that has all default usernames/passwords, and SSID's for router manufacturers?

I saw one once in the Networking forum, but can't find it.

My google skills have failed me.





KeyserSoze

bump for this, I would like to know as well. :)
 

KeyserSoze

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Originally posted by: TechnoKid
Originally posted by: KeyserSoze
While we're on topic here, does anyone know of a site that has all default usernames/passwords, and SSID's for router manufacturers?

I saw one once in the Networking forum, but can't find it.

My google skills have failed me.


KeyserSoze

Found Something but why would you need it?

also this

Part pure curioiusity, but also my friends are always calling me for help. Instead of having to go each Manufacturer's website, and scroll through damn documentation every single time.

I already have half of the freaking manuals on my hard drive so I can talk them through allowing remote management, port forwarding, enabling security....etc.

Friends suck.

EDIT: That's the one. The second site listed. Thanx, good stuff!



KeyserSoze