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dougp

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Really? Then surely you hardly use your iProduct much. IOS crashes a lot. It is NOT invulnerable to crashes. The iphone 4 that I use as a testing device crashes, it slows down if it tries to do more than 2-3 things. Hell, playing bejeweled Blitz can bring it to its knees!

Uh, I was going to stay out of this thread until I saw this.

My iPad 2 and iPhone 4S very rarely crash - except from issues related to jailbreaking. Neither of them act like my Galaxy S (granted, they're both light years faster than the Captivate) did when I tried to "multitask."
 

Oyeve

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Uh, I was going to stay out of this thread until I saw this.

My iPad 2 and iPhone 4S very rarely crash - except from issues related to jailbreaking. Neither of them act like my Galaxy S (granted, they're both light years faster than the Captivate) did when I tried to "multitask."
But it does crash. I was just responding to his "- Jitter/force close free" statement that incited me to post. And, if IOS had true multi-tasking I bet it would crash even more. Thats the nature of the multi-tasking beast.
 

dlock13

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But it does crash. I was just responding to his "- Jitter/force close free" statement that incited me to post. And, if IOS had true multi-tasking I bet it would crash even more. Thats the nature of the multi-tasking beast.

I don't know.. Windows can truly multitask, and I rarely get unresponsive applications. :p
 
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But it does crash. I was just responding to his "- Jitter/force close free" statement that incited me to post. And, if IOS had true multi-tasking I bet it would crash even more. Thats the nature of the multi-tasking beast.

What you said was:
Really? Then surely you hardly use your iProduct much. IOS crashes a lot. It is NOT invulnerable to crashes. The iphone 4 that I use as a testing device crashes, it slows down if it tries to do more than 2-3 things. Hell, playing bejeweled Blitz can bring it to its knees!

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That's just not true. IOS does NOT crash a lot. It's rare and, when it does, it's usually a questionable app and RARELY the os itself.

As for multitasking - I'd take "faux" multitasking over instability any day of the week.
 

podspi

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What you said was:
Really? Then surely you hardly use your iProduct much. IOS crashes a lot. It is NOT invulnerable to crashes. The iphone 4 that I use as a testing device crashes, it slows down if it tries to do more than 2-3 things. Hell, playing bejeweled Blitz can bring it to its knees!

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That's just not true. IOS does NOT crash a lot. It's rare and, when it does, it's usually a questionable app and RARELY the os itself.

As for multitasking - I'd take "faux" multitasking over instability any day of the week.

I've had Opera Mini and Netflix crash a lot for me in iOS. I've also had them crash a lot for me in Android. Android itself never crashes, unless I've done something bad (which I have, often).

BTW, if somebody wants to buy ME a tablet + accessories, I'll take a Transformer Prime. :biggrin:
 

Ns1

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I've had Opera Mini and Netflix crash a lot for me in iOS. I've also had them crash a lot for me in Android. Android itself never crashes, unless I've done something bad (which I have, often).

BTW, if somebody wants to buy ME a tablet + accessories, I'll take a Transformer Prime. :biggrin:

WRT bolded, see: ICS update for Transformer Prime.
 

Oyeve

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What you said was:
Really? Then surely you hardly use your iProduct much. IOS crashes a lot. It is NOT invulnerable to crashes. The iphone 4 that I use as a testing device crashes, it slows down if it tries to do more than 2-3 things. Hell, playing bejeweled Blitz can bring it to its knees!

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That's just not true. IOS does NOT crash a lot. It's rare and, when it does, it's usually a questionable app and RARELY the os itself.

As for multitasking - I'd take "faux" multitasking over instability any day of the week.
I dont know why you felt the need to quote my post. I know what it says, I wrote it. But, feeling you need to nit-pick I quoted you saying its "jitter/force-close free". I just said it is not. You felt the need to feel bothered by me saying "a lot", which has nothing to do with the original quote. A lot is subjective. The fact that it crashes is the meaning of the posted quote. See, I can be a little bitch too.
 

JackBurton

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Several Android tablets have IR transmitters so they can do a much better job of functioning as a universal remote than an iPad can.

Seriously? You think pointing a freakin' tablet at an A/V source is a good idea? Seriously? I'll answer that for you, it's a stupid idea. If you want to control your gear, the best way to do it is wifi> IR relay or wifi > RS232. Anything else, just use a dumb remote.

FYI, anyone wanting to control their A/V equipment with their iPad while keeping cost down, check out iRule. Very cool and customizable remote software.
 
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I dont know why you felt the need to quote my post. I know what it says, I wrote it. But, feeling you need to nit-pick I quoted you saying its "jitter/force-close free". I just said it is not. You felt the need to feel bothered by me saying "a lot", which has nothing to do with the original quote. A lot is subjective. The fact that it crashes is the meaning of the posted quote. See, I can be a little bitch too.

Your implication was that iOS crashes more than Android, which is not true. As far as a bitch fight, I truly don't give a shit about you or this conversation, frankly.
 

Oyeve

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Your implication was that iOS crashes more than Android, which is not true. As far as a bitch fight, I truly don't give a shit about you or this conversation, frankly.
Thats strange, I saw no posts in this thread from me with Android in it. Dont see where you would get the implication from. But, moving well past you......
 

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My iphone wouldnt crash is just didnt communicate with my computer. Which of course means I cant update it to fix the problems, since they dont do OTA.
THey do now, but after that experience I dont feel like going back.
 

Puddle Jumper

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Seriously? You think pointing a freakin' tablet at an A/V source is a good idea? Seriously? I'll answer that for you, it's a stupid idea. If you want to control your gear, the best way to do it is wifi> IR relay or wifi > RS232. Anything else, just use a dumb remote.

FYI, anyone wanting to control their A/V equipment with their iPad while keeping cost down, check out iRule. Very cool and customizable remote software.

You've obviously never tried it, if I am already holding the tablet to browse my media list there is no reason it can't operate my av equipment at the same time, besides on Android I can use both IR and iRule as needed.
 

JackBurton

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You've obviously never tried it, if I am already holding the tablet to browse my media list there is no reason it can't operate my av equipment at the same time, besides on Android I can use both IR and iRule as needed.

I think you are missing my point. IR (as in pointing a remote (tablet) at the source) is an antiquated way of trying to control your equipment. You can still browse your media AND control your gear with an iPad, you just don't have to point at your device to operate them. Wifi is just a MUCH better solution.
 

Puddle Jumper

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I think you are missing my point. IR (as in pointing a remote (tablet) at the source) is an antiquated way of trying to control your equipment. You can still browse your media AND control your gear with an iPad, you just don't have to point at your device to operate them. Wifi is just a MUCH better solution.

Funny, you can use wifi to control your stuff on Android as well, I guess the stereotype of Apple fans hating options has some merit after all.
 

Oyeve

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You've obviously never tried it, if I am already holding the tablet to browse my media list there is no reason it can't operate my av equipment at the same time, besides on Android I can use both IR and iRule as needed.
Are you using the IRModule?If so, hows that working? I cant find my tv remote and there are tv settings only available on the remote. I was interested in the module cuz its cheap, seems like a fun DIY project.
 

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Bigger epeen. Also, all the hot chicks carry iDevices. Only geeks like Android.

I have multiple android devices and exactly zero iDevices. I must be a geek.

this :thumbsup:.

there are not better apps, just more apps available for apple. this is because devs can squeeze more money out of their apps.
there are a lot fewer free apps on apple

the update arguments is bogus. battery live would be an argument but many android tablet even catch up very close there. display and gpu, not really convincing either since majority of users will not push either by any means on a daily basis. an avid gamers will find neither acceptable to actually game on it. at least not for extended periods of time.

there is no doubt that either platforms has pros and cons.
i would say if you need a simpler, maybe even more intuitive approach to technology go with apple, if you know what you doing go with android.
 

JackBurton

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Funny, you can use wifi to control your stuff on Android as well, I guess the stereotype of Apple fans hating options has some merit after all.

:sigh:I guess the stereotype that Android fans are boneheads is alive and well. Why would I want an old legacy crap device on my tablet? Do you want a 56K modem on your tablet too so you can say, "at least I have more options." Good God. :rolleyes:

Wifi control is not an "Apple" thing. It is the way A/V control is moving toward. The main drawback is the cost. However with iRule, that investment is now considerably less. And once you use an automated system like an iPad + iRule combo, an IR remote (be it a standard remote or a tablet using IR) would make you feel like you were back in the stone ages.
 
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JackBurton

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this :thumbsup:.

there are not better apps, just more apps available for apple. this is because devs can squeeze more money out of their apps.
there are a lot fewer free apps on apple

the update arguments is bogus. battery live would be an argument but many android tablet even catch up very close there. display and gpu, not really convincing either since majority of users will not push either by any means on a daily basis. an avid gamers will find neither acceptable to actually game on it. at least not for extended periods of time.

there is no doubt that either platforms has pros and cons.
i would say if you need a simpler, maybe even more intuitive approach to technology go with apple, if you know what you doing go with android.

If you want a device with a great UI, get an iPad. If you know what you are doing, get an iPad.

And the display on the new iPad is not convincing? So crisp text is not important for reading e-books? :rolleyes:
 
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this :thumbsup:.

there are not better apps, just more apps available for apple.

Really? Do you have both platforms?

I do and its a honest fact as much as you may not want to believe it, but there are more quality apps on the iPad.

Doesn't matter if its games, references or education, the iPad has the more quality apps.

Check out some of the Universe/star apps, or the walking with dinousars or the new Leonardo de vinci app.
 

Red Storm

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If you want a device with a great UI

I have to disagree with this. The iPad is a good tablet, but iOS's UI is not one of its strengths. The icon grid layout is very old and limited. If I wanted to I could easily mimic it in Android, but iOS can't mimic Android's UI options.
 

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I have to disagree with this. The iPad is a good tablet, but iOS's UI is not one of its strengths. The icon grid layout is very old and limited. If I wanted to I could easily mimic it in Android, but iOS can't mimic Android's UI options.

What can android UI interface optiosn really do that IOS can't

Widgets and Live wallpapers?

The UI for both tablets are just launching platforms for apps, thats it.

The UI isn't there to be admired its just to select which icon you want to launch which app and control settings, they both doing it aswell as each other in different, one better at one thing the other better at something else.
 

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non of them free or cheap. that quality comes at a price. geez, many of the basic apps cost .. at a minimum 4.99. by the time you worked your way to a decent collection you spend easily another 100 bucks.
 

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non of them free or cheap. that quality comes at a price. geez, many of the basic apps cost .. at a minimum 4.99. by the time you worked your way to a decent collection you spend easily another 100 bucks.


You didn't make mention of Paid or Free apps except on a seperate sentance, you made a statement on quality.

Very few apps cost a minimum of 4.99, please lets get factual and not start making things up.

Yes there are free apps on both, on the quality and availability on both I've not done a check on. But not everything on Android is free and nor does everything cost on iPad.

Logmein on Android was more expensive then Logmein on the iPad.
 

Red Storm

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What can android UI interface optiosn really do that IOS can't

Widgets and Live wallpapers?

The UI for both tablets are just launching platforms for apps, thats it.

The UI isn't there to be admired its just to select which icon you want to launch which app and control settings, they both doing it aswell as each other in different, one better at one thing the other better at something else.

If you think that then the whole point of widgets is lost on you. Their primary use is negating the need to launch a series of apps at all. If you don't see how that's useful then there's really nothing more to discuss...
 
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