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Why would anyone be against gay marriage?
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moshquerade
No Lifer
dude, please don't generalize. he doesn't represent America.
moshquerade
No Lifer
listen, here's the deal. i hope you have a homosexual child. i hope you realize you will love this child no matter what. i hope you realize then that all your bigotry and homophobia is idiotic.
moshquerade
No Lifer
you're logic is gay
fine, you want to play word games, marriage is a recognition of who is eligible for a group of subsidies
by recognizing a couple as married, you are recognizing them as eligible for all the subsidies that pertain thereto
so by any common understanding, marriage is a subsidy
by allowing them to do whatever they want?
i'm missing the oppression here
gays have all the same rights
calling the ability to receive money from the state for your lifestyle choice a 'right' is just sad
moshquerade
No Lifer
tynopik, subsidy this:
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how is it bigotry and homophobia for the state to reward behavior that leads to more babies and stable homes to raise them in?
they aren't punishing homosexuals
gays are free to live however they want
just because they aren't getting subsidized doesn't mean they're being oppressed
GodlessAstronomer
Lifer
Why do you arbitrarily single out that one benefit for "subsidy"? Carpenters and electrical engineers provide a greater benefit to the state than strippers and magicians, should we give a tax break to the more useful/beneficial professions? Should we start taxing people more if they have greater than 5 kids, because that benefit turns into a drain on society? If studies determine that Asian people are generally more productive than white people, should all Asians be given tax breaks because it benefits society?
Mike Gayner
Diamond Member
Like I said, let's stop feeding the troll.
moshquerade
No Lifer
short sighted, dumb, and not worth our time.
once a bigot, always a bigot. it's too bad they were raised in a home where their parents taught them that they were special and anyone unlike them was to be chastised.
we already do
farmers get all sorts of subsidies because we feel it's important to maintain the ability to grow our own food even when the economics don't support it
green tech is getting all sorts of subsidies right now
in the past there were all sorts of subsidies for oil and gas exploration
on the whole, more kids is a benefit to society
no, because that is a subsidy based on identity and not behavior
and no, marriage is not based on identity, it is based on behavior
a gay man can get the subsidy by engaging in the necessary behavior, namely entering into a partnership with a woman
a non-asian person could never get a benefit that was solely for asians
if married gays are having kids, they're having them outside of their marriage anyways, so the marriage is doing nothing to encourage more kids
gay marriage is worthless (practically) for producing kids, and is thus not worth subsidizing
as far as a stable home environment, again i said it was a 2 part thing
producing babies AND encouraging a stable home
gay marriage fails on the first part
and lets be honest, gay couples are far, far less likely to have kids than heterosexual couples
thus the ROI of subsidizing all gay couples for the few that do have kids is very poor and probably a waste of the state's money
what barriers?
nothing prevents them from having all kids they want
moshquerade
No Lifer
if you type subsidizing ONE MORE TIME i will beat the virtual snot out of you.
Brainonska511
Lifer
WTF are you talking about? Your "argument" is grade-A bullshit.
Subsidizing? How is the government subsiding married couples?
The children argument is stupid - what about old people that get married - they aren't raising kids. What about sterile people? What about people that don't want kids ever? Should we not allow them to marry?
Stable home? That's also bullshit - you assume that a hetersexual couple makes a stable home, but a gay couple can easily provide a stable home.
social security and military pension survivor benefits
joint filing
spousal benefits for federal employees
inheritance benefits
old people, you never can tell
there have been mothers well into their 60s and fathers into their 90s
sterile? that's costly to determine and there are privacy options and even still the tests are often wrong
if they don't want to have kids? well that's one of the purposes of marriage, to encourage accidents 😉
the government decided that easiest and most cost effective method was to simply make the cutoff a man + a woman
i didn't say they couldn't
i said it was a 2 part deal, make babies AND stable home
gay couples don't do so well on the first part
moshquerade
No Lifer
screw you.
dainthomas
Lifer
As a Christian, you should post a link to where Christ said being gay was bad. If you quote from the Old Testament, I'll post a quote from the Old Testament that says adulterers and disobedient children should be stoned to death.
In other words, cherry picking your "morals" from the writings of bronze age hermits makes you look retarded.
BeauJangles
Lifer
Except that barring gay marriage violates the Constitution.
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