Why won't my opty overlock? :(

Crescent13

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I just can't get it to break 2.2ghz dual SuperPI 32M stable :(. Even at 2.2GHz it'll sometimes crash. 2.0GHz is really the only stable setting, and I need 1.4V to get there. Did I get a dud? I lowered my HTT multi to 1X, set my ram to 3-4-4-8 and 1/2 divider, and I've tried to raise the voltage up to 1.525V, but nothing seems to break 2.2GHz. Is there anthing I could be missing?
 

mordantmonkey

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that sucks.
I'd say with dual core you have half the chance of getting a good OCer. or that is to say 2x's the chance of getting a dud.

run two instances of prime 95(one on each core) and see which one fails first.

on a nose rubbing side note: my 146 is rock solid at 2.5@1.4v
 

Crescent13

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yeah you're probably right. It's not like this is my first OC, I got my dad's opty 144 to 2.7GHz 12Hr Prime95 stable. even if I try 2 prime95's and find out which one fails first, it won't make much of a difference. right now I wan't to just get the system to boot up at all at a speed above 2.3GHz, 2.4 stops it from booting :(.
 

mordantmonkey

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Originally posted by: Crescent13
yeah you're probably right. It's not like this is my first OC, I got my dad's opty 144 to 2.7GHz 12Hr Prime95 stable. even if I try 2 prime95's and find out which one fails first, it won't make much of a difference. right now I wan't to just get the system to boot up at all at a speed above 2.3GHz, 2.4 stops it from booting :(.

Isn't default for the 165 1.8? you might just have a really crappy core in there. that sucks.
 

Crescent13

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Originally posted by: mordantmonkey
Originally posted by: Crescent13
yeah you're probably right. It's not like this is my first OC, I got my dad's opty 144 to 2.7GHz 12Hr Prime95 stable. even if I try 2 prime95's and find out which one fails first, it won't make much of a difference. right now I wan't to just get the system to boot up at all at a speed above 2.3GHz, 2.4 stops it from booting :(.

Isn't default for the 165 1.8? you might just have a really crappy core in there. that sucks.

Yup the default it 1.8. I guess I just got bad luck :(. I got a DFI CrashParty SLI-DR Expert for about a week, in the short time that I had it I barely managed to boot a 2.45GHz. (the board was bad, was corrupting files left and right. It was defenetly the MOBO cause my new ASUS board doesn't do that)
 

TrevorRC

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Originally posted by: Crescent13
I just can't get it to break 2.2ghz dual SuperPI 32M stable :(. Even at 2.2GHz it'll sometimes crash. 2.0GHz is really the only stable setting, and I need 1.4V to get there. Did I get a dud? I lowered my HTT multi to 1X, set my ram to 3-4-4-8 and 1/2 divider, and I've tried to raise the voltage up to 1.525V, but nothing seems to break 2.2GHz. Is there anthing I could be missing?

This is stunning, to say the least (Considering the stepping)

See if any AAT member will test it for you on a different board/etc... if it's fine for them; then voila. Bad board or PSU. If it's not... well, then, there is always eBay.
 

Crescent13

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Tried OC'ing it on a Epox 9npa+ultra, DFI Lanparty SLI-DR Expert, and Asus a8n32-sli Deluxe. I doubt it's the mobo :p. Anyway, for the stuff my dad is doing a lower speed dual core proc would suit him better, and for me a high speed single core proc would be better (I play HL2, CSS mostly). So I convinced him to swap CPU's with me. I gave him my opty 165, and he gave me his opty 144. I have his 144 running at 2.8GHz prime 32M stable right now in my comp :D.
 

TrevorRC

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I'd personally sell it on eBay. You'll get ~340 from it (even open-box) and you can buy another with that.
 

lopri

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TrevorRC, I would be ashamed of giving such advice on this forum.
 

TrevorRC

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I was suggesting s(he) list it as a server processor Lopri--Most server owners don't plan on overclocking their processors, so it's fine for them.

Selling it on eBay and posting an auction saying "This will hit FX-60 Speeds and beyond!" would be horrid.
 

malvare1

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I would check your memory timmings as this has lots to do with your overall overclock.
bring your memory divider to 166 and try to overclock 50 mhz at a time with stock volts until CPU can't boot, then increase volts to the next % always checking temps and see what happends, do this until you reach max volts (for me on air is 1.55v) then run dual prime and start backing off until you get it stable. also use cpuburnk7, it has brought my over clock to 2.8 12 hr prime stable at 1.50v mind you my cpu is less than a week old and the first 4 days I could not get it 2.8 stable at anything less than 1.55v. Be patient use the right tools and read extreme Systems forums they also have great information on Optys. To get a good stable overclock ussually take around 1-2 weeks specially if you get an uncooperative cpu :)

Good luck
 

lopri

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Originally posted by: TrevorRC
I was suggesting s(he) list it as a server processor Lopri--Most server owners don't plan on overclocking their processors, so it's fine for them.

Selling it on eBay and posting an auction saying "This will hit FX-60 Speeds and beyond!" would be horrid.


Thanks for clarifying. Yes, as long as the description is honest, it's totally legit and moral. Sorry for my wrong assumption. :)
 

lopri

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Crescent, did you try other stability testing than SuperPI for your 165? SuperPI is extremely sensitive to memory configuration. (Not just the speed, but also the gamut of timinges et al.)
I'd suggest testing with following method.

1. Go to the BIOS and load "Optimized default" or something in that vein
2. Reboot and go right back into BIOS.
3. Shut down the PC and wait 10 mins.
4. Start the PC and go right to BIOS.
5. Make changes to your liking, except the ones related to OC'ing
6. Reboot and go right to BIOS. This time make changes for your desirable OC, but leave the memory configuration untouched except setting the divider @DDR200 (1:2, 100MHz)
7. Set the LDT multi at x3. Play with different CPU multies because for some reason some mobos don't behave with certain multies. For example, a system could be stable @6x300, but not @9x200. It's just an example but you get the idea.
8. Now if #7 doesn't work, try different memory dividers. Like CPU multies, some dividers work better than others. And no one can tell you which one's the best for your board but yourself. Try different ones, of course under your memory's limit.
9. BIOS flash?

I can't imagine an Opteron with 2.2GHz ceiling..
 

n7

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Hmm, seems like you've gotten my kind of luck.

My X2 3800+ isn't even S&M stable @ 2.4GHz...it's good for all the other ones though (SP2004, SuperPI, etc.)