Why women can act "b*tchy" in social situations

Polish3d

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I notice a lot of guys struggling with this and I wanted to offer a few tips.




First:

I am a very goodlooking guy who has done some modeling/promotional stuff off and on. I work hard at it, take good care of myself and am very well-groomed and bodybuild. Anyone who has seen my myspace page knows this. (save the hater stuff, I don't care.) Because of this, I have experienced being hit on by gay men from time to time. I think it gives me some insight into part of what women go through. If you've ever been hit on aggressively by a man in a social situation (it seems to happen to me in grocery stores for some reason), it is EXTREMELY uncomfortable and obnoxious, particularly when you are trying to maintain some semblance of politeness. You are giving every sign that you are not fu(king interested and they continue, often escalating their come-ons in reverse parallel to how cold I try to be about it. It risks violence on my part, but I don't want that, so I know have learned to just be like ("oh YEAH, my gf and I blah blah")

Imagine being a female in this situation. I can defend myself against a guy like this, they often cannot. (why you see hot women travel with a couple girlfriends or boyfriend. Life can be scary for a hot girl, and for girls in general.)


Second:

Imagine if every single day of your life after the age of about 13-15, you were approached by an average of (low or moderately cute girl) 3, to (very attractive social girl) 15 SALESPEOPLE, each and every day.

These salespeople are nice to you. They say "Hi, I'm Bob, what's your name?"


But they are being NICE to you because they WANT something from you. They aren't being nice to you just to be a generally nice person. That is why people understand that it is ok to sometimes be rude to salespeople, or to blow them off.

Imagine if this happened to you at random times throughout the day, 15x a day, over and over and over and over and over and over. I bet you'd become pretty bitchy too.

Guys going up to girls and saying "Hi, I'm Bob, what's your name?" no matter how nice they are being, are doing it becuase THEY WANT SOMETHING FROM HER, just as a salesperson does. (they want to ****** her, love her, etcetera.)






Three:


So, what to do? Well, first of all, if the chick has a high social value, if she is a hot girl, then you really ought to either attempt to raise your own value, or if you believe you do have the traits to measure up, then TALK to her, but don't immediately convey that you're purely interested in her for her looks. BE GENUINELY CURIOUS ABOUT HER as a person too when you talk to her. Don't be like "zomg ur so pretty!!111" Ask her what her passions or hobbies or ambitions are, etcetera. Just control your desire to f*ck her as much as you can while you talk to her. That will be a good start, but hey, she doesn't OWE you anything either, just like you don't owe a girl you're not attracted to a relationship.












 

BlancoNino

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Women, in my experience, are only b*tches when they don't sleep with me. If they'd just learn that all I want is sex from them, they wouldn't have to act so damn mean. I don't get it...it's not that hard.
 

Darthvoy

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my theory on hot chicks and it has worked for me a couple of times is too act like there is something wrong with them (ugly, etc...hit them straight at their insecurities). I figured that since most guys that have hit on a particular hot girl have done so by being overwhelmingly upfront and may have seem sort of desperate, which in return will immediately turn off the hot girl because she has seen it thousands of times before. When I act like I am not interested in a particular hot girl she will think something's up and will immediately think there is something wrong with her. Therefore, she will think I am different and thus my foot is in the door.
 

Polish3d

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Originally posted by: pontifex
Originally posted by: Frackal
Originally posted by: jmdeathsquad
shens

are you serious?

are you?

if all you're interested in is boinking her then how can you be curious about her?
doesn't usually work that way.


Re-read. "BE GENUINELY CURIOUS ABOUT HER." I am genuinely curious about all my girls, I tend to look for kindness and passion along with beauty.
 

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Originally posted by: BlancoNino
Women, in my experience, are only b*tches when they don't sleep with me. If they'd just learn that all I want is sex from them, they wouldn't have to act so damn mean. I don't get it...it's not that hard.

Hmmm...I wonder why they dont sleep with you
 

pontifex

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Originally posted by: Frackal
Originally posted by: pontifex
Originally posted by: Frackal
Originally posted by: jmdeathsquad
shens

are you serious?

are you?

if all you're interested in is boinking her then how can you be curious about her?
doesn't usually work that way.


Re-read. "BE GENUINELY CURIOUS ABOUT HER." I am genuinely curious about all my girls, I tend to look for kindness and passion along with beauty.

i can re-read it all i want. if i guy just wants to be with a girl because she's hot, he isn't going to be genuinely interested in her.
 

Polish3d

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Originally posted by: pontifex
Originally posted by: Frackal
Originally posted by: pontifex
Originally posted by: Frackal
Originally posted by: jmdeathsquad
shens

are you serious?

are you?

if all you're interested in is boinking her then how can you be curious about her?
doesn't usually work that way.


Re-read. "BE GENUINELY CURIOUS ABOUT HER." I am genuinely curious about all my girls, I tend to look for kindness and passion along with beauty.

i can re-read it all i want. if i guy just wants to be with a girl because she's hot, he isn't going to be genuinely interested in her.

You are saying that because you probably feel you cannot attract hot girls and are attempting to feel better about it. Sorry. Desire for physical attraction to a female is hardwired into a man's brain. Physical attractiveness is an asset that is both genetic, but can also be developed and coveted to some degree, just like a good personality is.
 

Injury

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If women don't like being asked out, all they have to do is put a ring on their finger, even if they aren't married.

If they don't want to do that, then they can just deal with the fact that it's a social standard that the guys have to do the hardpart of breaking the ice, and while many guys are very, very bad at it... many guys are also very, very good at it... whether they like it or not.

Guess what's funny about this situation? GIRLS CAN BE ANNOYING LIKE THAT TOO. Ever go to a party and the girl you are interested in won't talk to you because you can't ditch the ugly girl that no one invited that just wants a screw and some helpless guy to squeeze the life out of with her annoying personality? Things ALWAYS go both ways.

To the OP: If you've been hit on by guys frequently enough to "know how it is" then maybe you should take the hint.
 

Billzie7718

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Originally posted by: Frackal
Originally posted by: pontifex
Originally posted by: Frackal
Originally posted by: jmdeathsquad
shens

are you serious?

are you?

if all you're interested in is boinking her then how can you be curious about her?
doesn't usually work that way.


Re-read. "BE GENUINELY CURIOUS ABOUT HER." I am genuinely curious about all my girls, I tend to look for kindness and passion along with beauty.

Hahaha ... what? Let me guess ... you also live in Hawaii, drive a red sports car, and hang out with your black friend who flies a helicopter and solve murders?
 

pontifex

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Originally posted by: Frackal
Originally posted by: pontifex
Originally posted by: Frackal
Originally posted by: pontifex
Originally posted by: Frackal
Originally posted by: jmdeathsquad
shens

are you serious?

are you?

if all you're interested in is boinking her then how can you be curious about her?
doesn't usually work that way.


Re-read. "BE GENUINELY CURIOUS ABOUT HER." I am genuinely curious about all my girls, I tend to look for kindness and passion along with beauty.

i can re-read it all i want. if i guy just wants to be with a girl because she's hot, he isn't going to be genuinely interested in her.

You are saying that because you probably feel you cannot attract hot girls and are attempting to feel better about it. Sorry. Desire for physical attraction to a female is hardwired into a man's brain. Physical attractiveness is an asset that is both genetic, but can also be developed and coveted to some degree, just like a good personality is.

:confused:
i know i can't attract hot girls and i'm not trying to "feel better about it". not even sure what the fvck that has to do with my comment anyway.

guys who only want a chick because she is hot aren't interested in her as a person. its called lust. if all a guy is worried about is getting in a woman's pants, then there is no respect for the woman.
 

pkme2

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IMO, The adage that "Beauty is only skin deep" makes more sense than "Blondes are dumb".

And you wonder why women today are more b^tchy than before. I hope this doesn't surprise you but they're getting smarter and more independent than ever. A man who feels threaten by this has no confidence in himself to handle the situation.

Since Oprah has appeared on the scene, women have now made inroads into every aspect of American life. If one thinks that he can get away with the social pariahs, he's badly mistaken. Most women exhibit good sense plus a genuine sense of togetherness but rile one and the term b^tchy isn't enough.

Guys, you can't live without them. Resign to the fact that what you do to women, you may forget, but they never will.
 

Polish3d

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Originally posted by: pontifex
Originally posted by: Frackal
Originally posted by: pontifex
Originally posted by: Frackal
Originally posted by: pontifex
Originally posted by: Frackal
Originally posted by: jmdeathsquad
shens

are you serious?

are you?

if all you're interested in is boinking her then how can you be curious about her?
doesn't usually work that way.


Re-read. "BE GENUINELY CURIOUS ABOUT HER." I am genuinely curious about all my girls, I tend to look for kindness and passion along with beauty.

i can re-read it all i want. if i guy just wants to be with a girl because she's hot, he isn't going to be genuinely interested in her.

You are saying that because you probably feel you cannot attract hot girls and are attempting to feel better about it. Sorry. Desire for physical attraction to a female is hardwired into a man's brain. Physical attractiveness is an asset that is both genetic, but can also be developed and coveted to some degree, just like a good personality is.

:confused:
i know i can't attract hot girls and i'm not trying to "feel better about it". not even sure what the fvck that has to do with my comment anyway.

guys who only want a chick because she is hot aren't interested in her as a person. its called lust. if all a guy is worried about is getting in a woman's pants, then there is no respect for the woman.


You can be attracted to a woman for both her appearance and her personality, I'm not sure what is so difficult about this.
 

essasin

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Same the drama for your Mama. Seriously, this is a computer hardware forum.

1. Most users either are old enough that they are married or have a wife, or they have no idea how to approach one....which is why we have so man YAGT threads.

2. Why would we care if a woman is bitchy? Every man knows or expects most women are bitchy and complain. Very similar to the tone of the OP.

3. We don't go after the type of "hot" girls you speak of. We go after the cute good looking ones that don't bitch and complain when we buy ourselves a 400 dollar video card. (Which we men wouldn't prositute ourselves for btw)
 

d3n

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Originally posted by: TheoPetro
first, second, three?

made me laugh

First, interesting points you have.

second, I'm not about to start making excuses for other people.

three, I find this thread mildly amusing. heh
 

Polish3d

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Sure, D3N, but some men MAY want to know the other reasons for why this type of behavior happens.

It is NECESSARY FOR A WOMAN TO DO THIS as a way of defending herself and/or her time.



When a woman is bitchy, it's not just about blowing someone off with efficiency, although that is part of it. It's also often about (especially with very pretty women), STAYING SAFE.

The point about the gay guys is that I was shocked at how aggressive they were and would not take the hint, they seemed to try harder the more I tried to make clear that I wasn't interested. (they only seemed to back off when I started up with girlfriend talk.)

This happens for women too, and sometimes its even worse, particularly when a man is DRUNK which often correlates to locations of greater risk for the females.


Most women, even the very very pretty ones, are NOT bitches, many are very sweet and kind. In fact, I don't know a single beautiful woman (and I know a lot, partly because I go to a school that is lucky in that regard) who is bitchy WHEN they feel safe.


So sure, there absolutely are those nasty women who just plain suck even if they are hot; screw 'em (but not literally).


I bet there might be a couple well-intentioned young guys who can understand this behavior better, and make good use of my advice, if they indeed find it useful.