• We’re currently investigating an issue related to the forum theme and styling that is impacting page layout and visual formatting. The problem has been identified, and we are actively working on a resolution. There is no impact to user data or functionality, this is strictly a front-end display issue. We’ll post an update once the fix has been deployed. Thanks for your patience while we get this sorted.

Why wasnt the govt better prepared with this hurricane?

Page 2 - Seeking answers? Join the AnandTech community: where nearly half-a-million members share solutions and discuss the latest tech.
it is Bill Clinton's fault

he should have been upgrading the dikes in NO instead of sticking cigars where they don't belong
 
Originally posted by: GhettoPeanut
Originally posted by: CadetLee
Originally posted by: Gobadgrs
Originally posted by: MrChad
Better prepared? As I recall, the hurricane hit Florida on Friday with little or no fanfare as a relatively weak storm. By late Saturday/early Sunday, it ballooned into a massive Category 5, causing NO to scramble to get an evacuation going. No one knew that it would grow that large prior to Saturday.

ok, well that would make things differently then.... i still would like to see the govt have more relief on standby waiting to go...


The problem is that nobody wants to pay for it. 😉



maybe we could divert some money from Bush's War, so instead of spending all our money to kill people, we can save them instead....

whats with the asswipes coming out the woodwork all of a sudden and posting on ATOT im inclined to believe they are the same ones that would shoot at rescue helicopters during a disaster.....
 
Originally posted by: Gobadgrs
Originally posted by: sixone
Originally posted by: Ryan
Because it cost alot of money, and take alot of time to set these kinds of support systems up.

Plus you don't know exactly where it's going to hit, and you can't put people in the path of the storm.

ok, but couldnt you have them standing by a couple of states over, and have them start the trip as soon as the danger is passed?
No, you don't know the extent of the damages until after the fact.
 
Originally posted by: BooGiMaN
whats with the asswipes coming out the woodwork all of a sudden and posting on ATOT im inclined to believe they are the same ones that would shoot at rescue helicopters during a disaster.....

QFT... these a$$bags need to go back to P&N, ESAD. If they are so pissed off at the government for ... whatever crap they think of, then they need to go to NO and do something.
 
Originally posted by: Hammer
FEMA sucks?


you should check p&n, there's some blurb about how FEMA warn Bush about the possible disaster with the hurricane back a few years ago, and Bush slashed hurricane funding for New Orleans anyway in 2003.

not Bush's fault imho, should've cut the funding from Florida and Texas instead. lol.
 
why didnt you ask this question BEFORE the hurricane hit? why didnt you say

Dont you think the U.S. should be set up for a huge disaster prior to this hurricane hitting land and then being ready for any major disaster that might occur?

o wait, hindsight is 20/20
 
Originally posted by: Gobadgrs
Originally posted by: sixone
Originally posted by: Ryan
Because it cost alot of money, and take alot of time to set these kinds of support systems up.

Plus you don't know exactly where it's going to hit, and you can't put people in the path of the storm.

ok, but couldnt you have them standing by a couple of states over, and have them start the trip as soon as the danger is passed?

They were doing that. They had 16 different staging areas of relief vehicles, supplies, etc. However, due to lack of communications, having to rescue people from rooftops, and the roads being cut-off or impassable it made it hard to get down there. Plus, this is a large area we are talking about. All the way from Mobile to New Orleans need rescue workers and supplies.
 
Originally posted by: Rickten
what the hell are these thousands of people going to do in the future months with no place to live and especially place to work and make money. Did anybody else see the footage of the guys in the back of a pickup truck drinking beer and smoking cigs and yelling f!*k the mayor, where's the food. Then the lady standing next to them is giving the camera the finger.

I think any able bodied man is going to have the opportunity to pick up a LOT of work in the N.O. area by joining a construction crew. They are going to be desperate for labor, even of the unskilled variety. But, of course, that would involve actual work, some of it might even be hard work, and the sort of people that would sit on the porch and complain about not getting handouts are not the sort of people that would willing engage in hard work, even for high wages.
 
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: Gobadgrs
Originally posted by: sixone
Originally posted by: Ryan
Because it cost alot of money, and take alot of time to set these kinds of support systems up.

Plus you don't know exactly where it's going to hit, and you can't put people in the path of the storm.

ok, but couldnt you have them standing by a couple of states over, and have them start the trip as soon as the danger is passed?

They were doing that. They had 16 different staging areas of relief vehicles, supplies, etc. However, due to lack of communications, having to rescue people from rooftops, and the roads being cut-off or impassable it made it hard to get down there. Plus, this is a large area we are talking about. All the way from Mobile to New Orleans need rescue workers and supplies.

thats a good answer. any links to info about the 16 different staging areas?

 
Originally posted by: Gobadgrs
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: Gobadgrs
Originally posted by: sixone
Originally posted by: Ryan
Because it cost alot of money, and take alot of time to set these kinds of support systems up.

Plus you don't know exactly where it's going to hit, and you can't put people in the path of the storm.

ok, but couldnt you have them standing by a couple of states over, and have them start the trip as soon as the danger is passed?

They were doing that. They had 16 different staging areas of relief vehicles, supplies, etc. However, due to lack of communications, having to rescue people from rooftops, and the roads being cut-off or impassable it made it hard to get down there. Plus, this is a large area we are talking about. All the way from Mobile to New Orleans need rescue workers and supplies.

thats a good answer. any links to info about the 16 different staging areas?

Just what I saw on CNN last night.

Evidently the staging didn't help at all, because it is a total clusterfvck right now and very little Aid has gotten down there. It probably could have been planned a lot better.
 
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: Gobadgrs
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: Gobadgrs
Originally posted by: sixone
Originally posted by: Ryan
Because it cost alot of money, and take alot of time to set these kinds of support systems up.

Plus you don't know exactly where it's going to hit, and you can't put people in the path of the storm.

ok, but couldnt you have them standing by a couple of states over, and have them start the trip as soon as the danger is passed?

They were doing that. They had 16 different staging areas of relief vehicles, supplies, etc. However, due to lack of communications, having to rescue people from rooftops, and the roads being cut-off or impassable it made it hard to get down there. Plus, this is a large area we are talking about. All the way from Mobile to New Orleans need rescue workers and supplies.

thats a good answer. any links to info about the 16 different staging areas?

Just what I saw on CNN last night.

Evidently the staging didn't help at all, because it is a total clusterfvck right now and very little Aid has gotten down there. It probably could have been planned a lot better.

Yep. They knew it would be bad. They just didn't think it was going to be this bad.

Everything was ok until the levees broke. That threw everything into chaos.
 
Originally posted by: Queasy
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: Gobadgrs
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: Gobadgrs
Originally posted by: sixone
Originally posted by: Ryan
Because it cost alot of money, and take alot of time to set these kinds of support systems up.

Plus you don't know exactly where it's going to hit, and you can't put people in the path of the storm.

ok, but couldnt you have them standing by a couple of states over, and have them start the trip as soon as the danger is passed?

They were doing that. They had 16 different staging areas of relief vehicles, supplies, etc. However, due to lack of communications, having to rescue people from rooftops, and the roads being cut-off or impassable it made it hard to get down there. Plus, this is a large area we are talking about. All the way from Mobile to New Orleans need rescue workers and supplies.

thats a good answer. any links to info about the 16 different staging areas?

Just what I saw on CNN last night.

Evidently the staging didn't help at all, because it is a total clusterfvck right now and very little Aid has gotten down there. It probably could have been planned a lot better.

Yep. They knew it would be bad. They just didn't think it was going to be this bad.

Everything was ok until the levees broke. That threw everything into chaos.

Exactly. Bush and Clinton are saying as much right now. If the levee wouldn't have broken it wouldn't be this bad.
 
Here, try this.

How much $ did you donate to the Red Cross, or whoever, *before* the hurricane hit? I think the answer to this question will answer your questions about the government.
 
Originally posted by: nourdmrolNMT1
why didnt you ask this question BEFORE the hurricane hit? why didnt you say

Dont you think the U.S. should be set up for a huge disaster prior to this hurricane hitting land and then being ready for any major disaster that might occur?

o wait, hindsight is 20/20
Indeed! :thumbsup:

 
Originally posted by: daniel1113
I think the real question is: Why on earth did so many people stick around when they knew damn well that a hurricane was on its way? Some people had a four day warning. Unless I am missing something...

Because they don't think it will be that bad. They've weathered storms before and it turned out to be no big deal. All coastal places are like this AFAIK...

Its just a hurricane, no big deal. I'll board up my windows and be fine.
 
Because the closer you stage your support equipment to the expected disaster area(s) the more likely it is to be destroyed by the hurricane. Not to mention you don't necesarrily know where the hurricane is going to hit until it's too late to move all the supplies you'll need. There are currently well over 50,000 people just at the Superdome in New Orleans alone. Now think about all the other people in Louisiana, Mississippi, and Alabama. There are *NO* roads going into most of these places. You don't know which roads are closed because of fallen trees, which ones have been washed away, how many bridges are out, etc until you get there. Then you have to fix those (one at a time) or find winding path through all of the towns and roads to get to the major population centers. Now what do you with all of the people in the small towns you are passing through to get to the major cities? You have to leave people and supplies at EVERY town you pass through. That saps a LOT of resources.

Sending supplies by air has it's own problems. You can't do it by plane (where will the aircraft land)? You can't use helicopters becuase they are needed for rescue operations and frankly they cannot move enough supplies to be effective quickly. Even if you manage to land a bunch of supplies at the airport (the New Orleans airport is now back open), how do you distribute food and supplies from there? Any equipment that was there is now destroyed.

The Navy is moving several ships into the region, which is definately the way to go because you can transport a LOT of supplies even on a small destroyer. But ships are slow and they couldn't leave dock until they were loaded and the hurricane had left the region.

Add to all of this the fact that you have psychos shooting at rescue workers and you'll see why things are going slow. Believe me, there are a lot of smart dedicated people working VERY hard on this.

Planning for this stuff is REALLY REALLY hard.

Dave <-- used to work with the Red Cross in planing for these types things
 
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: daniel1113
I think the real question is: Why on earth did so many people stick around when they knew damn well that a hurricane was on its way? Some people had a four day warning. Unless I am missing something...

Because they don't think it will be that bad. They've weathered storms before and it turned out to be no big deal. All coastal places are like this AFAIK...

Its just a hurricane, no big deal. I'll board up my windows and be fine.

A Cat 1 or 2 hurricane I could understand. Maybe a Cat 3. But as soon as someone said Cat 5, I would have been out of the Gulf Coast area before they finished pronouncing "five".
 
Back
Top