Why the white working class is alienated, pessimistic

peonyu

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_exclu...-white-working-class-is-alienated-pessimistic


"Almost no one noticed, but around George W. Bush's reelection in 2004, the nation crossed a demographic milestone.

From Revolutionary days through 2004, a majority of Americans fit two criteria. They were white. And they concluded their education before obtaining a four-year college degree. In the American mosaic, that vast white working class was the largest piece, from the yeoman farmer to the welder on the assembly line. Even as late as the 1990 census, whites without a college degree represented more than three-fifths of adults.

But as the country grew more diverse and better educated, the white working-class share of the adult population slipped to just under 50 percent in the Census Bureau's 2005 American Community Survey. That number has since fallen below 48 percent.

The demographic eclipse of the white working class is likely an irreversible trend as the United States reconfigures itself yet again as a "world nation" reinvigorated by rising education levels and kaleidoscopic diversity. That emerging America will create opportunities (such as the links that our new immigrants will provide to emerging markets around the globe) and face challenges (including improving high school and college graduation rates for the minority young people who will provide tomorrow's workforce)."




Bottom of the article is more insightful, considering how the article tries to remain PC.


"By contrast, although it is difficult to precisely quantify, the sense of being eclipsed demographically is almost certainly compounding the white working class's fear of losing ground economically. That huge bloc of Americans increasingly feels itself left behind—and lacks faith that either government or business cares much about its plight. Under these pressures, noncollege whites are now experiencing rates of out-of-wedlock birth and single parenthood approaching the levels that triggered worries about the black family a generation ago. Alarm bells should be ringing now about the social and economic trends in the battered white working class and the piercing cry of distress rising from this latest survey."


My 2c is, the US's future is bleak. Education is worse today that it used to be. Anyone can receive a "paper" education these days, and it shows. The US peaked in the 60's as far as high SAT scores go, our average SAT score today is not even close to what it was then...But yes, more people have been to school. The quality at our schools suck though.

Work ? We outsource so much of it now. The economy is drab. And
as far as "handouts" go, if you are White you have a uphill battle on trying to get help compared to a minority. Guess I can be counted as one of the pessimistic white people.
 

LumbergTech

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I think this will increasingly become the case, but its time to pay the piper. Whiteys had the advantages for quite a while and now they will have to compete with others. I also disagree about there being a lack of handouts for white people. For example, at the college I went to there were tons of white people going for free or at a very reduced price. In fact it seemed like a rarity that people were paying more than half of their tuition (regardless of race).
 

Hayabusa Rider

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I think this will increasingly become the case, but its time to pay the piper. Whiteys had the advantages for quite a while and now they will have to compete with others. I also disagree about there being a lack of handouts for white people. For example, at the college I went to there were tons of white people going for free or at a very reduced price. In fact it seemed like a rarity that people were paying more than half of their tuition (regardless of race).

You want to show us how white people get a free ride to college while minorities don't?
 

Doppel

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Makes sense that feeling their majority status slipping compounds the fear, but I do believe most people who just got their papers at the factory are not thinking about much at all beyond how much the economy sucks. Their black friend was probably canned along with them, so it's the last thing on their mind.
 

senseamp

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White working class is being screwed by the white ruling class they vote for, not by the minority working class.
 

Jhhnn

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White working class is being screwed by the white ruling class they vote for, not by the minority working class.

Stop it! Stop making sense!

The financial elite doesn't care about your race, color, creed, gender or sexual orientation- They'll screw anybody.

They'll try to exploit those things to keep us at each others' throats, but they really don't care. They worship at the altars of greed and power.
 

Throckmorton

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White working class is being screwed by the white ruling class they vote for, not by the minority working class.

They let Reagan and friends convince them that unions are evil, that wealth would trickle down on them like manna from heaven, and that free trade is good for everybody.
 

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When the economy eventually falls, the very identity of what whites think they are will be up for sale. The real white people will be the rich, the rest will be rubes. I suppose even a rube may have some levels of status.
 

Craig234

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They let Reagan and friends convince them that unions are evil, that wealth would trickle down on them like manna from heaven, and that free trade is good for everybody.

Something Reagan and his political operatives did was to help cement a new front for racism.

If we review the history, our first century you didn't need a front. Racism was just the normal view of things - no sane person would say blacks are to be given equal rights.

After that, you had a legal pretense of equality develop. This was put into the 'searate but equal' doctrine that was really separate an unequal for over 50 years.

That lasted until the civil rights movement. Then the new cover for racism became 'states' rights', along with its partner 'law & order'. If you don't like the federal government stepping all over the states, then you must support the states in preserving their racist laws. If you are for law & order, then you must oppose the agenda of black riots, and defend whatever they're against.

That lasted ok for a little while, but by the time of Reagan, after 'Roots' was a national event and Nixon disgraced, they were wearing then outside the south.

That's when they made economics the new cover for racism. You could rant and yell all day along about how much better 'people who earn a living' are than 'welfare leeches'.

You're in no danger of being reminded by the Republicans of any history for centuries that helped lead to the economic problems for blacks.

You can just rant using those issues, meaning but not saying 'whites' and 'blacks', and suddenly racism had a safe outlet again. Reagan loved the 'welfare queen in a cadillac' advertising, it took great advantage of this approach, while splitting the workers against their real common enemy of the right-wing ultra wealthy who wanted to screw them all (and were about to put policies in place creating the greatest shift of wealth to the rich from everyone else in American history).
 

JSt0rm

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What do you mean by that? I'd really like to see you dig yourself a little deeper so please do explain...

Some people believe what goes around comes around and that the white man is due for some hardship considering the few hundred years of pwn.

Ive duggen SOOO deep I canty get out
 

Infohawk

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Some people believe what goes around comes around and that the white man is due for some hardship considering the few hundred years of pwn.

Ive duggen SOOO deep I canty get out

Some people? Meaning you? So are you saying you believe in collective punishment? And that white people today are responsible for acts of their ancestors? Is that a rule you just apply to Europeans or do you think all people bear collective responsibility for what their ancestors did? Because a lot of ugly things happened in history and it starts getting really messy if you try to keep score.
 

irishScott

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Some people believe what goes around comes around and that the white man is due for some hardship considering the few hundred years of pwn.

Ive duggen SOOO deep I canty get out

So future generations are punished for actions they didn't take because some self-righteous idiot (you're the only one I've heard of who thinks this JStorm) believe Karma works that way. Riiiiiiight...

I'm more inclined to think in terms that America was largely founded by white people, was and in many ways still is a land of opportunity. White people have had the longest access to that opportunity, and have correspondingly worked themselves up the ladder. Minorities are comparatively just entering the main system and tend to start at the bottom.

My prediction is eventually we'll reach an equilibrium of pure blue-collar people and pure white collar people that's a relatively even mixture of the races (in terms of % of race). Those who can advance will advance, those who can't or won't will remain where they are. Minorities will become more prominent, but white people are hardly dying out, losing power, or "due for some hardship" by any means.
 
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