Why the undying love for nvidia?

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Vdubchaos

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Personally I'm not a fan of neither. I simply buy whatever is the best bang for the buck within my budget, at the time of my purchase. Usually around $199-250.

4-5 years ago it was ATI (800XL)
3 years ago it was Nvidia (7900gt)
year ago it was 4870

I'm upgrading in 6 months, maybe a year. Def not upgrading right now, DX11 is too fresh, I don't care for Windows 7 and there really isn't anything DX11 that brings graphics to another level.

So I'm waiting.
 

Yuriman

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As much as I'd like to pretend I'm impartial, I am part of the 15% that tends toward one side. I generally buy AMD over nVidia cards (or Intel CPUs), given similar performance per price.

I am, however, posting this on a PC with an nVidia card, and all of my current PCs have Intel CPUs. I'd like to think I recommend cards impartially, too.
 
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brencat

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If given a choice and price points are similar, I will generally choose nvidia. I find their products just work better and with fewer driver issues. Also, I only update my drivers every 3-6 mos or so and nvidia's drivers tend to work with brand new games as long as your drivers are reasonably current.

My only ATI card was an X800XL which is still going strong in the hand-me-down PC I gave to my 5yr old. I use Omega drivers for that FYI.
 

SlitheryDee

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I've noticed that I tend to move over to the side of whatever company I'm currently having good luck with. I likes my 4870 1gb, so I'm looking at the ATI 5xxx series the hardest for my next purchase. Before the 4870 I had a string of nvidia cards. I still love my 8800GTS.

I like to root for the underdog in most situations though. Being tied to my underdog CPU manufacturer automatically gives ATI a shoe in the door for my favoritism. Even so, I'll be liking ATI while I buy Nvidia if Nvidia's got the superior product.
 

Kenmitch

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OP makes me :|

All the off topic responses make me feel the same way. If you look thru the thread very little of the responses are related to my questions and the information I was trying to gather.

Seems like some people just gotta express some kind of opinion no matter what the topic is.

Focus on the questions please :D
 

yh125d

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All the off topic responses make me feel the same way. If you look thru the thread very little of the responses are related to my questions and the information I was trying to gather.

Seems like some people just gotta express some kind of opinion no matter what the topic is.

Focus on the questions please :D

Makes me :| because it's pointless flamebait...
 

Damn Dirty Ape

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Adding during the edited part also.

The purpose of this thread is not to start a fanboy war. It' more or less for clarification of some things. Kinda for your opinions.
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I kinda understand the need to choose a team theory and all as it's human nature. Not everybody has the same wants, needs, and beliefs in life. I guess the same can be applied to the red team vs green team to some extent.

I know that nvidia has been the major player for along time in the industry.
I know that without nvidia the current PC gaming industry would not be the same.
I understand the need for competition in this industry.
I understand that at one time nvidia was the only choice for the die-hard gamer.

What I don't understand is why alot of users and websites defend nvidia's current situation and defend it's somewhat unethical bisiness practices.

What I don't understand is why users defend them to the end and make excuses for the failures.

Why they blame other companies such as intel with the demise of the chipsets for example. But on the other hand defend nvidia for cutting ATI off with physX.

Why do people alway refer to things like this is just like when ATI released the XXXX and it failed or this is just like the nvidia XXXX that was a total flop. But then they bounced back with XXXX and dominated the industry.

Why do people use the past to predict the unpredictable future?

What would nvidia have to do to make you not love them anymore?

I guess before the fanboy action starts....If I HAD to pick a team it would be the RED TEAM

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If this belongs in Off-Topic then the mods can move it....I figure those who care about the Video Card Industry most likely will look where it was posted.

I understand that everybody is intitles to an opinion on things which is cool.

I also understand that some people like to voice an opinion even if it would be considered thread-crapping....But I'll over look that.

Nope: as referenced below, this doesn't belong in OT either. We don't have a flamebait forum to move it into, hence it's locked. -Admin DrPizza

What? what? WHAT? I can't hear the question over my new GTX480 card, sorry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

Muse

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My admittedly limited experience has been that nVidia isn't as expensive as ATI (which I've never bought) and that there's more available in nVidia cards. Seems like the availability of nVidia vs. ATI is analogous to PC vs. Apple (nVidia is put out by many competitors, built on the reference card, but ATI is relatively if not actually proprietary). I don't game but what I do like is dual DVI, and I have found that in nVidia. They've worked for me. My 2 cents.
 
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OCGuy

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Wow, this thread was pure troll from the get-go. But AT V&G has handled it extremely well. :thumbsup;
 

blanketyblank

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Actually I think most of the reason why NV is seen in such a favorable light is they have/had great board partners like EVGA, XFX, and BFG which offered good customer support, lifetime warranties, and even trade up programs. ATI partners with the exception of Visiontek (which has a lifetime warranty) have not offered these services and that has probably reflected badly upon the company. When a card dies as they will inevitably do nothing creates a diehard fan like a new card from the next generation instead of a sorry your warranty expired.
 

nyker96

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I personally don't care if I buy NV or ATI as long as they perform well, cost decently and most of all reasonable power consumption. in recent years ATI has been more to my taste but if NV can get a decent card in the mix I will buy it. As consumers I don't need to stick to one team or the other I have a choice. Whoever makes the best card gets my money.
 

Muse

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Actually I think most of the reason why NV is seen in such a favorable light is they have/had great board partners like EVGA, XFX, and BFG which offered good customer support, lifetime warranties, and even trade up programs. ATI partners with the exception of Visiontek (which has a lifetime warranty) have not offered these services and that has probably reflected badly upon the company. When a card dies as they will inevitably do nothing creates a diehard fan like a new card from the next generation instead of a sorry your warranty expired.
My experience exactly, from BFG and more than once.
 

Zebo

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I've had every gen they've ever made including 5800 ultra when everyone was buying 9700pros. Mainly I like there drivers and performance and ATI pissed me off using like 200megs of ram after driver install with .net. Lately I've had issues with failures and card noises like electrical whining.

7950 failed
8800 GTX failed
295 failed

If I were buying now I'd give ATI another try as in two 5850's
 

SRoode

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I'm not a fanboi, I've hardly owned ATI until this gen (my last cards were 8800GTs). The ATI 5850 is by far the best price to performance card you can buy.
 

Zebo

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Lifetime warranty is nice but when it takes two months to fill like my 295 did kinda sucks. This 295 is my last "dual GPU" card since every "dual GPU" card I've had has failure issues... will buy two separate cards from now on in case I lose one I can still game.
 

poohbear

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dont feed the troll. this thread should be locked.

I've had every gen they've ever made including 5800 ultra when everyone was buying 9700pros.

rofl this is the kind of nonsense u'll see posted here. Dude, nobody gives a crap how loyal u were to one company, u're buying their products, u're just another customer to them. Get a life.
 
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Leyawiin

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I've had every gen they've ever made including 5800 ultra when everyone was buying 9700pros. Mainly I like there drivers and performance and ATI pissed me off using like 200megs of ram after driver install with .net. Lately I've had issues with failures and card noises like electrical whining.

7950 failed
8800 GTX failed
295 failed

If I were buying now I'd give ATI another try as in two 5850's

For what its worth (which is nothing) here's another anecdotal card history post:

9600 Pro
GeForce 5900
X800 XL - failed
7800 GS
X850 XT
8800 GTX
GTX 260 - failed
GTX 260

Mine's 50/50 for ATI and Nvidia in the failure dept., which isn't surprising since they're all coming out of contracted factories in China and are probably made with more or less the same quality components.
 

nitromullet

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For what its worth (which is nothing) here's another anecdotal card history post:

9600 Pro
GeForce 5900
X800 XL - failed
7800 GS
X850 XT
8800 GTX
GTX 260 - failed
GTX 260

Mine's 50/50 for ATI and Nvidia in the failure dept., which isn't surprising since they're all coming out of contracted factories in China and are probably made with more or less the same quality components.

I can join this too...

9700 Pro
FX 5900
6800 GT
7800 GTX SLI
X1800XT Xfire
7900 GT SLI - DOA
X1900XTX - DOA
X1900XTX replacement
7900 GX2
7900GTX SLI
8800 GTX - DOA
8800 GTX replacement
8800 GT
3870 X2
8800 GTS 512
9800 GX2
4850 (2) DOA
GTX 260
4870
4870 X2
GTX 280 SLI
5870
GTX 275
9800 GT

...any issues I've ever had have always been very early on, and I've generally gotten a replacement or refund for it. I've never had a card just fail on me after the first week.

edit: in an effort to keep this on topic, my worst experiences (by far) with the above list was X1800XT Xfire and the 3870 X2. I didn't know what "VPU recover" meant before I tried X1800XT Xfire, but after a few days with that setup I was way more familiar with that than I carded to be.

The 3870 X2 was just crap. Driver issues mostly... I got sick of hearing "wait for the next Cats". The 4870 X2 was a huge improvement, but still suffered from micro stutter.
 
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