nitromullet
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- Jan 7, 2004
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I tend to prefer NV over ATI mainly based on my experiences with both. I've had good experiences with AMD and ATI products in the past, but I tend to find that an Intel cpu/chipset with an NVIDIA video card combination just seems to work the best in the most situations. Of course, that is my opinion, and others may have different experiences.
You won't hear either from me.
NV and ATI right now are employing different strategies to reach the same goal. For now, ATI's strategy seems to be working really well for them. Only time will tell off the small die or large die approach is the best. Of course, if the large die strategy isn't feasible long term, NV will transition over to smaller dice as well.
You won't hear any of this from me either. IMO, the whole PhysX vendor lock in thing is a black eye against NV. Not only does it really not encourage me to buy NV, but it also pretty much guarantees that PhysX will never become the de facto standard.
I think NV brought the whole chipset thing on themselves. Clearly Intel wanted SLI support for their Core i7/i5 cpus, but NV wanted to vendor lock them in too. Intel just proved to be better at NV's own game and destroyed NV's chipset division in the process. Does anyone really miss NV chipsets? For sure, they raised the bar for AMD chipsets with NF2 - NF4, but their Intel chipsets were never as good as Intel's own.
Because history has shown us that ups/downs between ATI and NV had been cyclical.
These guys are the best at what they do, so you can't count them out because of a slip up.
Don't believe me? Check out benchmarks of the Volari V8 Duo from XGI against the 9800XT and 5950 Ultra. The 5-series was arguably NV's biggest failure to date, and even the 5950 destroys the V8 Duo. There is simply no one else that can touch ATI and NV in graphics right now and the foreseeable future. The fact that it's a two horse race keeps them both working really hard to outdo the other. The end result of this is a constant seesaw back and forth between them.
How else are you going to do it? It's unpredictable as you said, so all you really can do is look for past trends if you want to try to get an idea of what will happen in the future.
I'll stop buying their stuff once it's not meeting my needs/wants anymore. I'm still on the fence about Fermi at this point. If the price of the GTX 480 dips closer to $400 or the GTX 470 dips below $300, they start to look at lot more attractive.
Of course, it will also depend on ATI pricing. The card I really want right now is a 5970, but that seems to be pretty unavailable and overpriced on the rare occasions that it is.
You won't hear either from me.
NV and ATI right now are employing different strategies to reach the same goal. For now, ATI's strategy seems to be working really well for them. Only time will tell off the small die or large die approach is the best. Of course, if the large die strategy isn't feasible long term, NV will transition over to smaller dice as well.
You won't hear any of this from me either. IMO, the whole PhysX vendor lock in thing is a black eye against NV. Not only does it really not encourage me to buy NV, but it also pretty much guarantees that PhysX will never become the de facto standard.
I think NV brought the whole chipset thing on themselves. Clearly Intel wanted SLI support for their Core i7/i5 cpus, but NV wanted to vendor lock them in too. Intel just proved to be better at NV's own game and destroyed NV's chipset division in the process. Does anyone really miss NV chipsets? For sure, they raised the bar for AMD chipsets with NF2 - NF4, but their Intel chipsets were never as good as Intel's own.
Because history has shown us that ups/downs between ATI and NV had been cyclical.
These guys are the best at what they do, so you can't count them out because of a slip up.
Don't believe me? Check out benchmarks of the Volari V8 Duo from XGI against the 9800XT and 5950 Ultra. The 5-series was arguably NV's biggest failure to date, and even the 5950 destroys the V8 Duo. There is simply no one else that can touch ATI and NV in graphics right now and the foreseeable future. The fact that it's a two horse race keeps them both working really hard to outdo the other. The end result of this is a constant seesaw back and forth between them.
How else are you going to do it? It's unpredictable as you said, so all you really can do is look for past trends if you want to try to get an idea of what will happen in the future.
I'll stop buying their stuff once it's not meeting my needs/wants anymore. I'm still on the fence about Fermi at this point. If the price of the GTX 480 dips closer to $400 or the GTX 470 dips below $300, they start to look at lot more attractive.
Of course, it will also depend on ATI pricing. The card I really want right now is a 5970, but that seems to be pretty unavailable and overpriced on the rare occasions that it is.
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