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Why the left hates Trump so intensely

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ivwshane

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No, it's completely opportunistic to lead progressives on that he's one of them, while behaving rather conservatively (eg. continuing bush policy no less). Or reliably flopping on gay marriage when the winds shifted. Christ, literally in the same post you rationalize why he has to be opportunistic.

Seems beyond obvious how Clinton's lack of political charisma as demonstrated in you & peers' opinion of her similar approach to governance is a major flaw .

Even when they use examples to illustrate her flaws they seemingly are unaware that those very examples are exactly what I was talking about.

We are dealing with tweedle Dee and tweedle dumb over here!
 

chucky2

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No wonder the conservatives will never find chucky when out hunting for the Real racists. He literally behaves exactly like they do other than maybe proclaiming the klan too moderate.

Hey, I'm flexible: Will the Klan ensure garbage isn't floating around like pollen and housing values aren't at Detroit levels?

Also, no one here is out 'hunting for racists', as that'd be racist (I mean, minorities are the most racist of all, easily, so by hunting for racists you'd essentially be targeting minorities more than whites...see how Progressive we are? :D )
 

agent00f

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Hey, I'm flexible: Will the Klan ensure garbage isn't floating around like pollen and housing values aren't at Detroit levels?

Also, no one here is out 'hunting for racists', as that'd be racist (I mean, minorities are the most racist of all, easily, so by hunting for racists you'd essentially be targeting minorities more than whites...see how Progressive we are? :D )

No, pretty sure they've been busy hunting for the Real racists since they've having real trouble finding any among their own.
 

chucky2

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No, pretty sure they've been busy hunting for the Real racists since they've having real trouble finding any among their own.

Fail, this may come as a surprise to your programming, but, there are posters here who don't have to revert all the worlds ills to racist FailLogic like you're programmed with. In fact, other than yourself and perhaps one or two others, this is basically everyone else. AaaaaandFailresponse....
 

agent00f

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Fail, this may come as a surprise to your programming, but, there are posters here who don't have to revert all the worlds ills to racist FailLogic like you're programmed with. In fact, other than yourself and perhaps one or two others, this is basically everyone else. AaaaaandFailresponse....

Good thing you agree your ideas about blacks/klan/etc are very popular, and here I was worried it might ever be hard to show much that sort of thinking is integrated into this country.

For example, not too long ago Brad here was disputing that systemic racist was a problem, but your thoughts and the conservatives' predicable silence on the matter sure put that to rest.
 

werepossum

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There could only be one winner- Clinton or Trump. You enabled Trump entirely by tearing Clinton down incessantly, as did a lot of people. The results are as much your doing as those who voted for Trump. Man up & own it.
Ah, now you're going full Moonie and claiming that anyone not staggering along and chanting "brains" with whatever obscenity the DNC shoves forward is a Trump supporter. If your candidate can only win as long as everyone pretends she is not flawed, then she doesn't deserve to win, period.

No, it's completely opportunistic to lead progressives on that he's one of them, while behaving rather conservatively (eg. continuing bush policy no less). Or reliably flopping on gay marriage when the winds shifted. Christ, literally in the same post you rationalize why he has to be opportunistic.

Seems beyond obvious how Clinton's lack of political charisma as demonstrated in you & peers' opinion of her similar approach to governance is a major flaw .
But WE aren't the ones pretending that Hillary's only flaw is that other people wrongly assume she has flaws.
 

Jhhnn

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Ah, now you're going full Moonie and claiming that anyone not staggering along and chanting "brains" with whatever obscenity the DNC shoves forward is a Trump supporter. If your candidate can only win as long as everyone pretends she is not flawed, then she doesn't deserve to win, period.

It was a binary choice- Trump, or not Trump (Hillary). Putting it in other terms is just a cop out.
 

agent00f

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But WE aren't the ones pretending that Hillary's only flaw is that other people wrongly assume she has flaws.

Mediocre at best skills at popularity is most definitely a serious flaw in a popularity contest, and by far her greatest political weakness, as evidenced again and again here.

People just don't want to admit this because they like to think they're not superficial.
 
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chucky2

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Good thing you agree your ideas about blacks/klan/etc are very popular,

Are they?

and here I was worried it might ever be hard to show much that sort of thinking is integrated into this country.

LOL, what we know Fail is they're integrated in you. You could call it...you're programming... :D

For example, not too long ago Brad here was disputing that systemic racist was a problem,

He'd clearly be wrong: Minorities are terribly racist, not just against Whites (with social impunity) but against other minorities as well. See, we agree on something! :D

but your thoughts and the conservatives' predicable silence on the matter sure put that to rest.

Of course we're not that vocal on the matter, we're not nearly as racist as Leftards and I'm sure don't possess the levels of White Guilt they do. Maybe you need to go do some programming dips over at DailyKos and/or HuffPo? Get the validation you (Fail to get here) need? :D
 

agent00f

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Are they?



LOL, what we know Fail is they're integrated in you. You could call it...you're programming... :D



He'd clearly be wrong: Minorities are terribly racist, not just against Whites (with social impunity) but against other minorities as well. See, we agree on something! :D



Of course we're not that vocal on the matter, we're not nearly as racist as Leftards and I'm sure don't possess the levels of White Guilt they do. Maybe you need to go do some programming dips over at DailyKos and/or HuffPo? Get the validation you (Fail to get here) need? :D

So let's summarize here. Conservatives largely agree with your take on race & whatnot, and leftards are the Real racists. Seems to perfectly explain their shared rhetoric.
 

agent00f

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I can't believe after all these years of liberals supressing their anger it has risen to the top again.
lol +1

It's truly amazing that in the midst of all this hate and vitriol, the left is still decrying angry white men and angry white Trump voters.

About as convincing of a tough guy act as chucky, what a coincidence this crowd all more or less behave alike.
 

desura

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I'm no Hildabeast fan, but being elected Senator and made SecState are accomplishments. Personally I'd prefer to see how someone performs as a governor and builds a for-profit private business, but both Senate and SecState experience are useful experience for the Presidency. Both also allow a candidate to show character or lack thereof.


Mo debinitely. I know some true die hard yellow dog Democrats who voted for Trump simply because they so despise Hillary. Apparently those Russians have been running psyops for decades.


Actually both you and agent said pretty much that exact thing.

The problem with that is she won her first elected office seat in the safe blue state of NY after being First Lady. As they say, the first million is the toughest. She has never served in state legislature, school board, etc. And she faced no opposition in the party primary there either. The field was cleared for her by the party.

As for Secretary of State, same thing. And what did she accomplish there? She was too chicken to try to find peace between Israel and Palestine. Her biggest project was the disastrous war in Libya and pushing for more involvement in Syria. I don't think she made good calls there, and reading accounts of Libya she was too easily suckered by smooth talking Muslim freedom fighters who say the right things.
 

xthetenth

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The problem with that is she won her first elected office seat in the safe blue state of NY after being First Lady. As they say, the first million is the toughest. She has never served in state legislature, school board, etc. And she faced no opposition in the party primary there either. The field was cleared for her by the party.

As for Secretary of State, same thing. And what did she accomplish there? She was too chicken to try to find peace between Israel and Palestine. Her biggest project was the disastrous war in Libya and pushing for more involvement in Syria. I don't think she made good calls there, and reading accounts of Libya she was too easily suckered by smooth talking Muslim freedom fighters who say the right things.

The first million is the toughest, says someone referring to an election against Donald J Trump, notable for earning his first million.

Why is there this level of scrutiny against a woman while a ludicrously unqualified man skates to the top? Do me a favor and answer without whinging about identity politics.
 

Jhhnn

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The problem with that is she won her first elected office seat in the safe blue state of NY after being First Lady. As they say, the first million is the toughest. She has never served in state legislature, school board, etc. And she faced no opposition in the party primary there either. The field was cleared for her by the party.

As for Secretary of State, same thing. And what did she accomplish there? She was too chicken to try to find peace between Israel and Palestine. Her biggest project was the disastrous war in Libya and pushing for more involvement in Syria. I don't think she made good calls there, and reading accounts of Libya she was too easily suckered by smooth talking Muslim freedom fighters who say the right things.

The problem is propagandists going on about Clinton fantasies in order to avoid looking squarely at the reality of Trump as President.

Clinton lost & is therefore no longer a factor. But it's obviously very, very important to keep tearing her down to distract from the awfulness currently unfolding.

We'll be hearing Crooked Hillary! & Lock her up! for as long as it's useful to rally the deceived.
 

desura

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The first million is the toughest, says someone referring to an election against Donald J Trump, notable for earning his first million.

Why is there this level of scrutiny against a woman while a ludicrously unqualified man skates to the top? Do me a favor and answer without whinging about identity politics.

Because I didn't support Trump. We're talking about Hillary Clinton compared to say, Elizabeth Warren who is more of a self-made woman than HRC. Or Joe Biden. Or Sanders. Or any other number of potential Dem candidates.
 
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The "left" hates President Trump because they hate anyone that disagrees with them and despise anyone they can't bully or intimidate. The new "left" in America are the biggest bunch of authoritarian fascists that this country has ever had to endure.