The first point is only to notify you that such a requirement has nothing to do with my argument.
The second is simply hand wringing for no purpose. The government hasn't suddenly 'slipped its leash'. The fact that it would have such power dates back at a minimum almost a century now. You may not have realized it before, but it's always been there. I have no idea why finally tyranny has come to our shores because the federal government decided to do the same sort of thing it has always done, but in a less coercive manner than usual.
I'm trying to remember being taxed for not buying a service from a private company. I understand you prefer this state of affairs. I am not.
/facepalm
The government could have accomplished this identical objective through means by which you would have had far less say as to the outcome and far less of a guarantee of any services whatsoever. I understand that you prefer to have a heavier hand of government, and wish to be more thoroughly coerced. You should write your congressman and request that in the future they eliminate your personal choice as much as possible.
Not the same. You have to have income to be taxed. You can 'opt' out. This is a mandate to buy regardless of income.
Nope. If you have no income it is provided to you free of charge.
But you are still required to engage in a transaction. You still can't just sit there and live.
Thank Joe Lieberman for lack of public option.Forces you to buy a defective product from guys making billions a year. It's welfare for the riches. I'm sure the founding fathers would be rolling in their graves who sought to eliminate state/industry raping of the ppl.
Nope. If you have no income it is provided to you free of charge.
Not if you have assets.
Not if you have assets. And you can't opt out. You can opt out of medicare or any other free program. Apples to oranges.
That is our system of government, representative democracy, we entrust our politicians to vote on our behalf. Don't like it, move to ancient Greece.So anything that a current crop of politicians is does is blessed by the plurality of the people before they even know what may be done. Well that justifies most everything done where an election was held. Thanks for sharing.
You can not opt out of payments to medicare. You can most certainly opt out of this program by declining to use it. Come on people, listen to how ridiculous you sound.
Yes you can. All passive income is exempt from medicare. ll capital gains is exempt. Not working is exempt. This will be oly tax in history you can't escape and it's sole criteria is being a US citzen.
This is the sad part about the internet. With no responsibility for outcomes, people feel free to hold manifestly absurd positions.
Truly, tyranny has come to our shores. Now the asset heavy trust fund babies that were electing to irrationally go without health insurance despite their wealth will be forced to do something about it. I suggest a march on Washington. (I would seriously pay to see that, it would be hilarious)
This is the sad part about the internet. With no responsibility for outcomes, people feel free to hold manifestly absurd positions.
/facepalm
The government could have accomplished this identical objective through means by which you would have had far less say as to the outcome and far less of a guarantee of any services whatsoever. I understand that you prefer to have a heavier hand of government, and wish to be more thoroughly coerced. You should write your congressman and request that in the future they eliminate your personal choice as much as possible.
You will see how aburd I am when the supremes bouces this shit right back in obamas face.
Wouldn't be so certain that they are on the side of the people.
Folks at the Federal government level tend to look out for themselves.
Why would you assume he would say the exact opposite of what he just said?
If you wanted a better bill you should have supported having the republicans actually participate more in the formation of the bill instead of refusing because it was headed by democrats(using a republican idea).
A tiny step in the right direction is better than none. No pre-existing conditions alone makes the bill worth it.
Edit: Actually lets explore your idiotic claim further. You claim that we spend so much on defense is THE reason we are in debt:
So - lets look at the last 3 years. In the last 3 years the debt has increased by $4.7 trillion dollars. Now - if we take your defense spending as fact and we spent an average of $1 trillion on defense over the last three years taht gives us $3 trillion dollars.
Ok. Now if we were to cut EVERYTHING - every last penny from the defense budget over those last three years. We have now saved $3 trillion dollars (ignoring possible side effects of adding hundreds of thousands of unemployed and any potential negative effects that removing your entire military might have)
the gov alredy does this with car insurance. you have to have buy it to drive. and yes many many many people HAVE to drive
Probably best for you to go back to paying attention to what's going on with Kim Kardashian. This topic has already been discussed ad nauseum. There is a very important subtle difference between the two types of insurance. Please read.
im all for universal health care. bring it on we need it and our country will be a whole lot better with it.