Why SSDs are cheaper

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cmdrdredd

Lifer
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HDD's hit $1/gb in 2000 iirc. That's a side note though.

What I find amusing is the effect a crappy ocz ssd had on me. Yes I noticed the difference when it died and I had to put a regular HDD in there but it wasn't significant enough for me to look forward to another SSD. Not with that level of reliability. Then again it ran at 50% of the advertised speed.

That's OCZ for you.
 

Skott

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I'll bite when its 50c per GB. I know this probably won't happen for a couple of years but I can wait. Odly enough my primary bottleneck right now is my CPU.

I'm with you. I've used PCs for years without them. I can wait another year or two. Its not like mechanical hdds are completely bad. Not if you get a good model.
 

taltamir

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If SSD's are getting cheap, why are laptop manufacturers still raping us if you try to add one as a factory installed option?

because they can.
because some people pay it.

NAND flash demand still down

Demand down = prices down

:thumbsup:

the article seems to suggest NAND is finally getting to the point where production exceeds demand and there would be actual competition, like what we have in HDDs and RAM.
That would be pretty neat.
 

bryanW1995

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I'm with you. I've used PCs for years without them. I can wait another year or two. Its not like mechanical hdds are completely bad. Not if you get a good model.

Just saw a link at slickdeals for $120 for a 180gb 330 series. It's getting close...
 

Skott

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Just saw a link at slickdeals for $120 for a 180gb 330 series. It's getting close...

Thats cool and all but it is the 500Gb and larger units that interest me the most. I can wait. Hopefully the price wars will erupt and bring the prices down even more.
 

bryanW1995

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It's still not too far off if you'll consider RAID 0 with a quality drive like the m4. It's around $390 for 2 x 256gb, so $.76/gb.
 

bjlockie

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Can a HD be setup in raid with an SSD?
It'd be nice to have an SSD as a main drive and a HD as a backup.
 

professorman

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I now see 120GB for $85. I am wondering if I should hold out until the end of the year or bite now. I would really like 250GB for $100.
 

Revolution 11

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I will be holding out until prices drop to $0.50/GB. I can't see myself spending more than $120 for a 256 GB drive. The smaller drives would have me scrambling for more space.
 

JBT

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I am trying to wait a bit longer for the 240/256GB's to drop a bit more. I've got a old 120GB model right now. I love it, It will move over to the wife's PC once I finally pull the trigger on one of the newer drives.
 

HexiumVII

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I don't think it will get much cheaper as the entry cost for ANY nonvolatile storage medium right now is around $70.
 

Skott

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Be interesting to see what deals will be offered come the holidays towards the end of the year. BF for instance.
 

f4phantom2500

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There are reasons to use RAID, but no way can anyone ever give me a valid excuse to use RAID0. Any application where speed of an application is that important, that means the application is important enough to require actual redundancy.

You're assuming that someone would actually care about the data, while a lot of people simply care about speed...of course with SSD I think RAID1 would be an easy compromise since an SSD is so fast already...or just no RAID at all...haha.
 

bryanW1995

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RAID 5 is a good compromise solution for ssd users, but it's just annoying to lose some performance after using up the 2 good sata 6gb/s connections. Or, even worse, to be forced to spend several hundred $$ to buy a hardware RAID controller.
 

Madmick

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I know that 60GB-128GB isn't enough to hold many games (especially on top of windows and other applications), but considering that most gamers usually just play a few games at a time, has anyone in here considered just installing the game they're currently playing to the SSD until they move on to a new game, then uninstalling it?

What would the caveats be with this approach? Usually character info is stored in certain files, but you should be able to copy those. I'm not sure about things like achievements, items or unlocked stages, but PC's usually have hacks to unlock all that stuff anyway. This seems like a creative way to get a major boost from drive storage in terms of performance.
 

taltamir

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I know that 60GB-128GB isn't enough to hold many games (especially on top of windows and other applications), but considering that most gamers usually just play a few games at a time, has anyone in here considered just installing the game they're currently playing to the SSD until they move on to a new game, then uninstalling it?

I have done it, it works fine.
Its only an issue for people who insist they have to have a large library of games installed simultaneously. In arguments with people holding this position I was given the justification of LAN parties for which you need a large selection of games already installed.
 

Madmick

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I have done it, it works fine.
Its only an issue for people who insist they have to have a large library of games installed simultaneously. In arguments with people holding this position I was given the justification of LAN parties for which you need a large selection of games already installed.
Yeah, well, I don't do that, so nice. This is what could compel me to spend the extra $40 for a 120GB version over an 80GB version (and thereby reap a much better GB/$ ratio). With 120GB, I figure I could install OS + Apps + half a dozen games at any given time. That'd be bitchin.

Games are getting big, lately. Max Payne 3 vanilla is 26GB! :eek:
 
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bryanW1995

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I've got almost everything installed finally, and I'm not even over 80gb total with OS/etc yet. Apparently I could have gotten by with just a single m4...
 

StinkyPinky

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I can't do shit with a hard drive smaller then 250-320gb they still cost too much even with the hot deals for me to buy one. If the prices were cut in half id buy one now even tho I don't really need it


Why? My 128 gig holds all my apps, the OS, and even a couple of games and still has 50 gigs free. You obviously use a standard HDD to store the rest of your games and movies etc.
 

sandorski

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500gb for $100, I'll buy at that price.

However, I have been tossing around the idea of getting an SSD for Swapfile and BOINC usage, those are the 2 situations my system seems to struggle with at times right now.