Why SSDs are cheaper

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I still can't even bring myself to spend $100 on a top of the line 128GB ssd that's been showing up in hot deals. Maybe a 256GB for $100 and we'll talk.
 

Bman123

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I can't do shit with a hard drive smaller then 250-320gb they still cost too much even with the hot deals for me to buy one. If the prices were cut in half id buy one now even tho I don't really need it
 

LOL_Wut_Axel

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By the end of the year we'll probably have average SSD pricing below 1GB/dollar (256GB for $200 MSRP, 128GB for $100 MSRP, etc).

If you're an enthusiast there's little reason to not go with an SSD, especially with the deals that keep popping up. A 128GB will hold the majority of your programs and a few games and will make an immense difference to your computing experience.
 

Coup27

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There's some crazy deals in the UK on the 830 series. Still not as cheap as the US but for the UK they're about 25% less than before.
 

ultimatebob

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If SSD's are getting cheap, why are laptop manufacturers still raping us if you try to add one as a factory installed option?
 

Coup27

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It's called the OEM tax. Dell and Apple have been doing it on memory and hard drives for years.
 

LOL_Wut_Axel

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There's some crazy deals in the UK on the 830 series. Still not as cheap as the US but for the UK they're about 25% less than before.

The SSD 830 series is too expensive in US/US Territories, IMO.

$35-60 more than the Crucial m4 256GB for a drive that is a tiny bit faster and has a fraction better power consumption. Of course, at the same price point, I'd rather get the 830 than the m4.
 
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Coup27

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Scan.co.uk is probably the UK's largest e-tailer for PC hardware and the price difference between the 256GB m4 and 830 is US $25. The Sammy's have crashed here. That's £16 in my money and I would definitely get one over the m4 for that price.
 

jhansman

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If SSD's are getting cheap, why are laptop manufacturers still raping us if you try to add one as a factory installed option?

Just order the laptop with the stock drive and replace it yourself with the SSD of your choice. This is what I did with my wife's HP netbook, and the difference in performance is considerable. True, it went from a 320GB 5400 RPM spinner to a 126GB SSD, but she'll never fill that thing up. Had to search the web to find the service manual for the computer, but it was easy to replace the drive. A small Phillips screwdriver was all that was needed.
 

Absolution75

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I'll bite when its 50c per GB. I know this probably won't happen for a couple of years but I can wait. Odly enough my primary bottleneck right now is my CPU.
 

Smoblikat

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By the end of the year we'll probably have average SSD pricing below 1GB/dollar (256GB for $200 MSRP, 128GB for $100 MSRP, etc).

If you're an enthusiast there's little reason to not go with an SSD, especially with the deals that keep popping up. A 128GB will hold the majority of your programs and a few games and will make an immense difference to your computing experience.

I disagree, ive used RAID 0 SSD's and see little to no difference in anything except a few less seconds bootup.
 

groberts101

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I disagree, ive used RAID 0 SSD's and see little to no difference in anything except a few less seconds bootup.

there are more and more users trying raided SSD's than ever before.. and most of them would surely disagree with you too. I know I sure as hell didn't spend $1,200 bucks on my 6 drive SSD array to only get "a few less seconds bootup". lol

And it's very well known by most that adding a raidrom into the post sequence generally doesn't make your boot time any quicker despite the added performance potential added from the R0.
 

Zap

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I still can't even bring myself to spend $100 on a top of the line 128GB ssd that's been showing up in hot deals.

I can't bring myself to own a computer sans SSD. D:

My "first world problem" is that after booting, Steam will often finish loading before DHCP finishes grabbing an IP address from the router. :eek:
 

Kelvrick

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I can't bring myself to own a computer sans SSD. D:

My "first world problem" is that after booting, Steam will often finish loading before DHCP finishes grabbing an IP address from the router. :eek:

Hehe, I have to wait to see which of my friends are online!
 

npaladin-2000

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there are more and more users trying raided SSD's than ever before.. and most of them would surely disagree with you too. I know I sure as hell didn't spend $1,200 bucks on my 6 drive SSD array to only get "a few less seconds bootup". lol

And it's very well known by most that adding a raidrom into the post sequence generally doesn't make your boot time any quicker despite the added performance potential added from the R0.

There are reasons to use RAID, but no way can anyone ever give me a valid excuse to use RAID0. Any application where speed of an application is that important, that means the application is important enough to require actual redundancy.

I'd LOVE to run a DB server off of an SSD-based RAID array. But if I used RAID0 I'd be shot, and deservedly so.
 

Rubycon

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The irony here is if you're using a 128GB or larger SSD you're already running RAID0. ;)
 

WhoBeDaPlaya

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I can't bring myself to own a computer sans SSD. D:
My "first world problem" is that after booting, Steam will often finish loading before DHCP finishes grabbing an IP address from the router. :eek:
Heh, I know what you mean. On my office system (Biostar TA870+, X3 740 @ X4 3.8GHz) running an older-gen Vertex 2 120GB, it starts up so fast that I have to wait a second for the keyboard initialization so that I can type in my password :p

Also, nothing beats blowing people's minds when, immediately after logging in, Photoshop fires up instantly while Steam, Skype, WLM and other assorted stuff are still loading :D
The irony here is if you're using a 128GB or larger SSD you're already running RAID0. ;)
Assume you're talking about the internal structure of SSDs Ruby? Aren't they pretty much all uber RAID 0 with multiple banks?
 

tweakboy

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Guys Im ready to bite now, I think 1 dollar per 1GB is very fair.

Remember when SSDs first came to scene in 2008

a 60GB was 400 dollars... Weve come a long way now, that we can pay 1 dollar per 1GB , My eye is on the Sammy 830 512GB then buy another 256GB for my DAW

I think its fair and good deal. The difference in performance is wicked sick. Best upgrade, no more waiting, things just pop up ,,,,, to me daz bigger difference way bigger difference then going to a 2600k ,,, for me that is,, imo
 

npaladin-2000

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The irony here is if you're using a 128GB or larger SSD you're already running RAID0. ;)

True, technically the interleaving between memory chips is reminiscent of and based upon a RAID0 like storage method. It's also similar to memory interleaving if you remember back when some motherboards offered that as a performance enhancer. Then again, SSDs are designed to survive the loss of a NAND chip, while a RAID0 array can't survive the loss of a drive. :)
 

D Cup

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I can't bring myself to own a computer sans SSD. D:

My "first world problem" is that after booting, Steam will often finish loading before DHCP finishes grabbing an IP address from the router. :eek:

Truly funny - I needed that - THANKS
 

D Cup

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Was planning to wait on SSD for my new system build but $109 for 120gb SAmsung 830 DESTROYED all my will power
 

Rubycon

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True, technically the interleaving between memory chips is reminiscent of and based upon a RAID0 like storage method. It's also similar to memory interleaving if you remember back when some motherboards offered that as a performance enhancer. Then again, SSDs are designed to survive the loss of a NAND chip, while a RAID0 array can't survive the loss of a drive. :)

Point is whether you have one drive or 48 if ONE dies you go down. This is why you have backups. Here we're heavily SAN'd so no worries. Even so in the period - over a decade - of running various RAID0 setups I've never been seriously burdened by a drive failure. The SSD arrays (running since late 2008) have been superb. I've had a few glitches with dual ported backplanes and SAS cabling but no data loss, thankfully.