why should we care if animals get abused?

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Gooberlx2

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Lummex

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Similarly to some of the other responses, our brains are wired to feel discomfort when we see another animal in pain or being hurt, probably for an evolutionary purpose. Other animals exhibit this too, although probably more towards their own species. My dogs will howl if they think one of us is in pain or hurt (and that's obviously common of a lot of domestic dogs).
 

zinfamous

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wat? You put it into words in your first damn sentence.


stop trying to do your homework through ATOT.
 

Zebo

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We are conditioned from birth to have empathy. This was necessary so we don't kill each other off because as humans we can also kill not needing to kill like other animals.. This empathy has worked it's way into viewing some animals worthy of our empathy as well. Bugs obviously not.

In some cultures this is not as true. Animals are tortured to death or bleed out before eating them.
 
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Gooberlx2

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stop trying to do your homework through ATOT.
Good call.

My guess is he's researching this topic as "the interesting social issue" he need for his speech class. My position on it would be: Why isn't it taken more seriously and/or punished more harshly?
 

JulesMaximus

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Really? And what have you done about slavery? Child porn? Gang wars? Drugs? Domestic abuse?

I already voiced my opinion, I think it is wrong. But I do not control others and wouldn't even try. Laws don't prohibit wrong doing.

Of course not...that would require effort and you wouldn't want to squander any of that on something that doesn't benefit you directly right? Isn't that the American way?
 

alkemyst

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It really comes down to not so much religion, but understanding everything suffers/feels pain.

For the most part humans aren't much different than cats and dogs as far as their experience to pain.

Also a wild animal is much like a wild person. They become less tramatized by things.

Pets and civilized people not so, they can easily be scared into long-term suffering. Their minds are simply not used to such things and can be easily overloaded.

It also has nothing to do with slaughterhouses and the like. These animals are born and raised around this, as barbaric as it looks; it's designed to be as humane as possible within their constrants. Also even abusing slaughterhouse animals is illegal and often times shows in a poor product.

There really shouldn't need to be any law for not killing/harming people or pets, but sadly our people tend to lash out and take out their shortcomings on those unable to defend against it.

This is another very real and researched reason why animal abuse is generally looked on as 'bad for us'. Those that directly hurt and kill especially pets have been shown time and time again to move on to people.

Then again abuse like those that simply forget to feed or water their pets is different and often comes into the debate as does the marijuana debate and how it doesn't always lead to more stronger drugs...they have nothing to do with each other.

I don't think anyone could prove there was not something wrong with them that felt it was their right to go out and harm as many dogs and cats as possible.
 

Kadarin

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IMO it is morally wrong to inflict suffering on an animal without very good reason.
 

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Everyone in the apartment complex I lived in knew who Ugly was. Ugly was the resident tomcat. Ugly loved three things in this world: fighting, eating garbage, and, shall we say, love. The combination of these things along with a life spent outside had their effect on Ugly. To start with, he had only one eye, and where the other should have been was a gaping hole. He was also missing his ear on the same side, his left foot appeared to have been badly broken at one time, and had healed at an unnatural angle, making him look like he was always turning the corner. His tail has long since been lost, leaving only the smallest stub, which he would constantly jerk and twitch. Ugly would have been a dark gray tabby striped-type, except for the sores covering his head, neck, even his shoulders with thick, yellowing scabs. Every time someone saw Ugly there was the same reaction. "That's one UGLY cat!!"

All the children were warned not to touch him, the adults threw rocks at him, hosed him down, squirted him when he tried to come in their homes, or shut his paws in the door when he would not leave. Ugly always had the same reaction. If you turned the hose on him, he would stand there, getting soaked until you gave up and quit. If you threw things at him, he would curl his lanky body around your feet in forgiveness. Whenever he spied children, he would come running, meowing frantically, and bump his head against their hands, begging for their love. If ever picked up he would immediately begin suckling on your shirt, ears, whatever he could find.

One day Ugly tried to share his love with the neighbor's huskies. They did not respond kindly, and Ugly was badly mauled. From my apartment I could hear his screams and I tried to rush to his aid. By the time I got to where he was laying, it was apparent Ugly's sad life was almost at an end. Ugly lay in a wet circle, his back legs and lower back twisted grossly out of shape, a gaping tear in the white strip of fur that ran down his front. As I picked him up and tried to carry him home I could hear him wheezing and gasping, and could feel him struggling. I must be hurting him terribly I thought. Then I felt a familiar tugging, sucking sensation on my earlobe - Ugly, in so much pain, suffering and obviously dying was trying to suckle my ear. I pulled him closer to me, and he bumped the palm of my hand with his head. Then he turned his one golden eye towards me, and I could hear the distinct sound of purring. Even in the greatest pain, that ugly battle-scarred cat was asking only for a little affection, perhaps some compassion.

At that moment I thought Ugly was the most beautiful, loving creature I had ever known. Never once did he try to bite or scratch me, or even try to get away from me, or struggle in any way. Ugly just looked up at me completely trusting in me to relieve his pain. Ugly died in my arms before I could even get him inside, but I sat and held him for a long time afterwards. Thinking about how one scarred, deformed little stray could so alter my opinion about what it means to have true pureness of spirit, to love so totally and truly. Ugly taught me more about giving and compassion than a thousand books, lectures, or talk show specials ever could, and for that I will always be thankful. He had been scarred on the outside, but I was scarred on the inside, and it was time for me to move on and learn to love truly and deeply. To give my total self to those I cared for. Many people want to be richer, more successful, well liked, beautiful, but for me, I will always try to be Ugly.

I feel sad just reading that, never mind if it's true or not.

I wish my spoiled brat cat could read it too, he only wants pets at his convenience.
 
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Why should I care that people in Africa are dying of Aids but are actively prevented from getting help because they're taught that condoms are evil?

You mean the people being taught that condoms are evil that also believe they can be cured of aids by having sex with an infant? It's because other Africans want control over people.
Don't try to blame it on anyone else but them.