Why September 11 Occured

[Extelleron]

The only "reason" for 9/11 was:

"Freedom itself was attacked this morning by a faceless coward, and freedom will be defended."

Bin Laden and the radical islamic facists that support him will attack anyone who is free. Their purpose on 9/11 was not to attack the United States, but to attack the freeworld, and freedom itself, and all those who are free.

 

[dwell]

Originally posted by: Narmer

Originally posted by: Chris

Originally posted by: KlokWyze
Then why has Bin Laden not been charged with 9/11 by the FBI? Where is the evidence?Or do you just believe whatever News Corp.(FoxNews)/CNN/MSNBC tells you?

Because chances are great that we'll render him a blood smear on the side of a Pakistani mountain long before we could capture and try him in a court of law.

A better question would be why Islamic leaders are not issuing fatwas left and right against Bin Laden and al-qaeda if he is indeed derailing the principles of their religion. It's sort of like Pope Pius XII refusing to denounce Hilter, isn't it?

That's because the allegation isn't valid enough. Why bother when you can't take the question seriously.

Oh God. You're not one of those who think Bin Laden was not complacent in 9/11, are you?

 

[piasabird]

Actually we could kill every person who claims to be Islamic. Just kill them all. I dont know how nice that would be but it is an option. Muslim extremists could be wiped off the face of the earth. People in America just do not have the guts to cross that line. This war against terrorism has not hurt enough Americans yet. My prediction is there will come a time when we will get mad enough and hurt enough when we will get to that point.

 

[dwell]

Originally posted by: piasabird
Actually we could kill every person who claims to be Islamic. Just kill them all. I dont know how nice that would be but it is an option. Muslim extremists could be wiped off the face of the earth. People in America just do not have the guts to cross that line. This war against terrorism has not hurt enough Americans yet. My prediction is there will come a time when we will get mad enough and hurt enough when we will get to that point.

That's an extreme viewpoint. All that needs to happen is the extremists need to realize God is not on their side. After attempting to kickstart Armageddon and getting their ass handed to them in spades, you'd think they'd just give up.

 

[PrinceofWands]

Originally posted by: piasabird
Actually we could kill every person who claims to be Islamic. Just kill them all. I dont know how nice that would be but it is an option. Muslim extremists could be wiped off the face of the earth. People in America just do not have the guts to cross that line. This war against terrorism has not hurt enough Americans yet. My prediction is there will come a time when we will get mad enough and hurt enough when we will get to that point.

No, there's no real way to do that. There's no way to know for sure what someone's religion is. There would always be hidden adherents.

It wouldn't go like that though. Even if it got bad enough that some group decided on genocide, there would be others that would oppose it and you'd end up in total global war and chaos.

 

[magomago]

Originally posted by: piasabird
Actually we could kill every person who claims to be Islamic. Just kill them all. I dont know how nice that would be but it is an option. Muslim extremists could be wiped off the face of the earth. People in America just do not have the guts to cross that line. This war against terrorism has not hurt enough Americans yet. My prediction is there will come a time when we will get mad enough and hurt enough when we will get to that point.

So if it was your choice you will kill me because I am "Islamic"?

Wake up Pisabird, that is stupid.

 

[magomago]

I think something important and telling to point out is that there are two radically different ideas: those who believe Al Qaeda attacked us because "We are free" (bullshit), and those who say "he is a fvktard, but he had his own reasons". The former is filled to the brim with jingoist ferver composed of no real arguement other than defining that he hates "freedom"...however we define that at the moment. The latter says, "What he did was wrong: but he was mad at A B C. Well A and B he might have a point...it doesn't justify his actions, but a point. C is more iffy".

Which one is the more practical view? And which one looks like the view that WORKS and is actually pratical? The latter looks like they discuss with, and have a reasonable convseration using "enlightened" ideas because they are not quick to give knee jerk reactions.

If Muslims are ever prosected on a global level for being Muslim...it is because they are under attack from those who are gleefully waiting to do it~ not because the Muslims are on the offensive. Bin Laden may probably have lit the slow fuse for the death of many muslims...

 

[bobdelt]

"Where is the law that states Americans have to pay the income tax? "

Ever hear of the consitution? There is an amendment that states congress has the right to levy taxes. Congress then passes law.

Amendment XVI - Status of Income Tax Clarified. Ratified 2/3/1913.

The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several States, and without regard to any census or enumeration.

www.irs.gov/pub/irs-utl/friv_tax.pdf

Go read that. I'm sure it won't change your mind because you're so stubbon, but you're probably like most liberals and claim to be open minded.... Right.

So I assume you don't pay your taxes then? You have nothing withheld and don't file and in come tax return?

 

[KlokWyze]

Originally posted by: yllus

Originally posted by: KlokWyze

Originally posted by: piasabird
There is no justification for 9/11.

The Meglomaniac that caused it is Bin Laden. This nut is only interested in forcing his way of life and his idealogy on everyone else in the world. He is drunk with power and he seeks to use that power to kill anyone and anything that opposes him. He is a new kind of Meglomaniac.

Then why has Bin Laden not been charged with 9/11 by the FBI? Where is the evidence?Or do you just believe whatever News Corp.(FoxNews)/CNN/MSNBC tells you?

Uhh... So you figure that the current administration would launch a freakin' war on the other side of the planet based on 'mere allegations', yet wouldn't have it within their power to manufacture the evidence necessary to lock the guy away?

Yes. Either way you cut it there is no evidence. Think about what you asked.

First off there is no evidence. 2nd you asked why does the US regime NEED to manufacture evidence? They don't, they pretty much do whatever they want without any consent or permission from Americans. Or have you not noticed?

 

[KlokWyze]

Originally posted by: piasabird
Actually we could kill every person who claims to be Islamic. Just kill them all. I dont know how nice that would be but it is an option. Muslim extremists could be wiped off the face of the earth. People in America just do not have the guts to cross that line. This war against terrorism has not hurt enough Americans yet. My prediction is there will come a time when we will get mad enough and hurt enough when we will get to that point.

Hmmm didn't Hitler try to do that? All that did was kill millions of innocent people and give mega-rich bankers the ability to coerce powerful Jews to pursue a zionist agenda and use anti-semitism as a shield.

I hope your being sarcastic...? Did you know you can't kill an idea? Are you just another misinformant?

 

[KlokWyze]

Originally posted by: bobdelt
"Where is the law that states Americans have to pay the income tax? "

Ever hear of the consitution? There is an amendment that states congress has the right to levy taxes. Congress then passes law.

Amendment XVI - Status of Income Tax Clarified. Ratified 2/3/1913.

The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several States, and without regard to any census or enumeration.

www.irs.gov/pub/irs-utl/friv_tax.pdf

Go read that. I'm sure it won't change your mind because you're so stubbon, but you're probably like most liberals and claim to be open minded.... Right.

So I assume you don't pay your taxes then? You have nothing withheld and don't file and in come tax return?

16th Amendment: "The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several States, and without regard to any census or enumeration."

Supreme Court Decision...<--- Ok, pay attention to the 5th paragraph.

Well researched article

The IRS have convinced the American public that THEIR laws supercede the constitution AND the Supreme Court. Another interesting thing to note is The Federal Reserve Act of 1913 AND that the 16th amendment was passed in the same year.

Another question to you: Is the Federal Reserve, the bank of the Federal Government, a branch of the federal government or a privately owned business/institution? If the answer to that doesn't surprise the ****** out of you....

... I must mention I have found all this out rather recently. I don't hate anyone who is arguing with me. I am trying to show you what government do to their people. Just look @ the information yourself, this is all that I ask.

One more thing to look @ is the rise of the national deficit and the passing of both the Federal Reserve Act AND the 16th amendment.

good luck.

 

[Orsorum]

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[bobdelt]

The national deficit rose, not because of the passing of that amendment and federal reserve act, but because of all the acts passed around that time. That was when the federal gov't started to actually mean something, the size of the gov't exploded during the 20's and 30's. The gov't spent its way out of the great depression.

The federal reserve being private doesnt suprise me at all, as I was an econ major. It makes sense. You need it seperate so it doesn't get influenced by political legislation. Hence the insanely long terms for those in charge of the fed.

The problem you see, is the just the problem with government and bureaucracy. There are limits to what we can do and the size of legislation. There will also be things undefined and ambiguos, its unavoidable, and so we have a court system, which basically makes laws based on rulings.

 

[Polish3d]

Originally posted by: Narmer
THis information is not in support of Al Qaeda. It is to let Americans know why muslims celebrated on that day 5 years ago. I did not support the terrorist attacks but I understand why it happens. There is no rift in Islam or any other nonsense. Islam is used, like any other religion, as a banner for unity in what Al Qaeda calls its Jihad against America. Therefore, Americans should not see this as a clash of civilizations or religions, but as a political fight. The main point being that you reap what you sow.

Let us remember that America supports most of the most despicable regimes in the Middle East. These regimes, with the silent support of the United States, have ruled with an iron-fist for much of the past century and don't give two squirts of piss about their citizens. The United States, caring more for its energy and security needs than the citizens, didn't really care about these abuses. In addition to the despotic regimes, America also supported Israel, which has trampled on the Palestinians for so long. The Al Qaeda recognized Israel and these regimes as the near enemy and America as the far enemy. They decided to strike at the heart of America to put fear, kill, and bring instability to Americans just as America brings it to the muslim world through its support for Israel and despotic regimes. Many muslims get killed and its not even a footnote, but let 1 Jew or American get killed and it's suddenly world news. Is Jewish/AMerican blood worth more than Arab/Muslim blood? The hypocrisy continues with America rallying the world around democratic principals while paying lip service to it in the M.E. After the Twin Towers fell, America pressed the regimes in the M.E. to become more democratic, but had second thoughts when Hamas won elections and Iraqis and Iranians elected conservatives as their leaders.

The death and destruction that America has brought to Iraq is just the latest example of why Muslims are so angry. 100 Iraqis are killed everyday, over 11,000 in the past three months alone. The terror continues.

This is pretty accurate. I suppose they despise their own regimes, but have now decided that America and Israel must go in order for their plans to be successful.