Why PS2 is still king

kpxgq

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now i must admit that XBOX does have some impressive polygon power but the fact remains that currently the PS2 is still the top dog with its superior game library... the highly anticipated Abes Oddessey game for xbox flopped, Gotham Racing did well, and only Halo and DOA came up as promised while just about every hyped up PS2 game has class leading scores... okay this could change in a year... but the fact remains that the best system to have for the time being is still the PS2... plus Xenosaga and FFX are soon coming out and both are almost guaranteed blockbusters.
XBOX current top titles========IGN-SCORE

Dead or Alive 3================9.4
Halo Action Buy===============9.7
Project Gotham Racing Racing==8.8
Madden NFL 2002================8.6


PS2 current top titles=========IGN-SCORE

Metal Gear Solid 2=============9.7
SSX Tricky=====================9.4
Soul Reaver 2==================9.0
Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 3=======9.7
Ace Combat 4: Shattered Skies==9.1
Grand Theft Auto III===========9.6
Devil May Cry==================9.6
Guilty Gear X==================8.8
Gran Turismo 3 A-spec==========9.8
Twisted Metal: Black===========9.6
ICO============================9.4
Madden NFL 2002================9.2


notice how madden on PS2 gets a better score than its xbox cousin and GT3 is still the greatest racing game of all time...
 

Dragnov

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Yes yes, too bad it only took them several months to get all these games out....
Sheesh, the other systems aren't even out yet... if you judge systems by their release titles only, the PS2 sucked big time.
 

VirusDub

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Why do people keep bringing this up? Look, it's not like people are going to read your thread about the PS2 and suddenly go "Wow, I'm a moron for wanting a GC (or XBox, whatever)" or vice versa.
 

foahchon

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You know, Madden 2K2 could've gotten a lower score on the Xbox because it's further within the Xbox's margins of power than the PS2's Madden was. Also, the reviewer of the Xbox version gave it a lower lasting appeal rating, not meaning the PS2 version is actually better...

Half those titles (MGS2, SSXT, THPS3, AC4, and probably some others at one time or another) are coming out for the Xbox and will not only look better on the Xbox, but have new features as well, but I'll bet they'll still get lower ratings.
 

FrontlineWarrior

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different systems have different reviewers. the scores are hardly scientific. who knows, you might have dumb ps2 fanboy writing up biased reviews for his beloved sony playstation
 

Sugadaddy

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And when was the PS2 released?



Oh yeah, that's right, a year ago!!! The stores aren't even opened yet here to get an XBOX...


Why don't you compare games at launch for the PS2 with the launch titles for XBOX?
 

kpxgq

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<< And when was the PS2 released?



Oh yeah, that's right, a year ago!!! The stores aren't even opened yet here to get an XBOX...


Why don't you compare games at launch for the PS2 with the launch titles for XBOX?
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because thats about how great the xbox games are gonna get...



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CISC

Pronounced sisk, and stands for Complex Instruction Set Computer. Most PC's use CPU based on this architecture. For instance Intel and AMD CPU's are based on CISC architectures.

Typically CISC chips have a large amount of different and complex instructions. The philosophy behind it is that hardware is always faster than software, therefore one should make a powerful instructionset, which provides programmers with assembly instructions to do a lot with short programs.

In common CISC chips are relatively slow (compared to RISC chips) per instruction, but use little (less than RISC) instructions.



RISC

Pronounced risk, and stands for Reduced Instruction Set Computer. RISC chips evolved around the mid-1980 as a reaction at CISC chips. The philosophy behind it is that almost no one uses complex assembly language instructions as used by CISC, and people mostly use compilers which never use complex instructions. Apple for instance uses RISC chips.

Therefore fewer, simpler and faster instructions would be better, than the large, complex and slower CISC instructions. However, more instructions are needed to accomplish a task.

An other advantage of RISC is that - in theory - because of the more simple instructions, RISC chips require fewer transistors, which makes them easier to design and cheaper to produce.

Finally, it's easier to write powerful optimised compilers, since fewer instructions exist.
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in a nutshell.... RISC cpus put more emphasis on the software while CISC cpus but more emphasis on hardware....

now for PCs (computers), the CISC architechture (x86 platform) is the best since we can always upgrade the hardware and keep up with newer technologies and software...

but a console is a dummy box.. everything is proprietary and nothing can really be upgraded (kinda like a mac)... but the RISC architecture allows the software/games to be the scaler.... the hardware remains the same but newer software comes out and the hardware just scales to the software... that is why RISC is just SUPERIOR for apples and consoles... think back to the Playstation... the first generation playstation (psx) games looked like crap and were pretty simplistic... but evolved by leaps and bounds through newer software and programming without even upgrading the machine... with a computer, we get better performance from upgrading hardware (cpu, ram, video card, etc)...

now the PS2 and Gamecube are built on traditional RISC architectures... while the XBOX has a pc based x86 CISC chip.... also the fact that the XBOX cpu is only 32bit brings it down to the level of the PS2's 128bit processor (even thought it is more mhz, kinda like IPCs when comparing intel to amd). the thing is that the XBOX games look great.... but they will look about the same 2 years from now... and without any hardware upgrades that are available to a PC, the life of an XBOX will be greatly reduced.... The PS2 and gamecube games also look great.. but the thing is that their RISC architectures allow the machines to scale to software, so in 2 years from now, you will see MUCH improved gaming performance from these two consoles...
 

Servnya

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Just buy the damn console that either has, or will have in the future, the most games that you are going to want to play. If you have the money, buy all of them!! Who gives a sh!t. The graphics are not going to be THAT different between the 3. It's going to come down to the games, like it always does. The only thing that makes one console better than another is opinion. Hell, my grandma still thinks the original 8 bit Nintendo is the best because all she wants to play is Pac-Man anyway!!
 

loudog9999

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Just buy the damn console that either has, or will have in the future, the most games that you are going to want to play. If you have the money, buy all of them!! Who gives a sh!t. The graphics are not going to be THAT different between the 3. It's going to come down to the games, like it always does. The only thing that makes one console better than another is opinion. Hell, my grandma still thinks the original 8 bit Nintendo is the best because all she wants to play is Pac-Man anyway!!

Well said, I totally agree..........