Why president Carter is deserving of the Nobel Peace Prize (what you don't know), a conservative perspective

[Koba1t]

I was intrigued by this years recipient of
the Nobel Peace Prize. President jimmy Carter received the award as announced
this morning. I think he is a perfect selection. Whereas I thought he made a
lousy president...indecisve, anal and unpolished in national level politics the
country fell into a malaise during his presidency including the Iranian
hostages, 20 % interest rates and double digit unemployment... (however, i think now this could be more
attributed to his cabinet being incompetent, he was known for working 80 hour weeks).

However, I can think of no man who was a better
ex-president than Mr. Carter. he has held the office of ex-president with
great dignity, respect and the proper amount of humility. His work on
international peace initives, habitat for humanity and and even local community
projects in his home state of Georgia are both admirable and incrediable.
Unlike Reagan, Bush, and Clinton who all cashed out on the lecture circuit and
with endorsements when leaving office President Carter was always above
that...showing a rare southern dignity to the rest of the world.

When my cousin went ot Emery law School in 1981 President Carter had just been
added to the faculty teaching an international relations/law class. He held
open office hours every Tuesday afternoon...as all faculty were supposed to do.
I was 14 years old and went to visit my cousin. We were walking by the office
and there was no one in it...my cousin said...would you like to meet the
president...i said sure. He knocked at the door. The president greeted my
cousin by name even though he was not in his class. He shook my hand. Asked
me what I thought about Atlanta and then said to me something I will never
forget..."Stay interested...we need the kids to stay interested or we will
never make a difference."

Congratulations Presdient Carter...you are a worthy recipient in my eyes.

 

[ThePresence]

Why dont you post this in the thread discussing his winning of the Nobel Prize?

 

[Koba1t]

Originally posted by: ThePresence
Why dont you post this in the thread discussing his winning of the Nobel Prize?

Because it's full of mud slinging.

 

[0roo0roo]

if arafat gets one...

 

[Ameesh]

dumb peanut farmer.

 

[EvenHand]

I'm not a conservative but I largely agree with the initial posting in this thread. The only thing I'd add is to note the tremendouse amount of good work to insure fair elections and try and settle disputes that President Carter has done after leaving office.

 

[tcsenter]

Carter was given the Peace Prize, not because the committee thought Carter deserved it, but because they thought that Bush deserved a good nose-thumbing. It was the anti-Bush, not the pro-Carter, that was the basis for the award.

If Carter were truly a good American with the character he is purported to have, he would tell the Nobel committee to take their award and stick it.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Originally posted by: tcsenter
Carter was given the Peace Prize, not because the committee thought Carter deserved it, but because they thought that Bush deserved a good nose-thumbing. It was the anti-Bush, not the pro-Carter, that was the basis for the award. If Carter were truly a good American with the character he is purported to have, he would tell the Nobel committee to take their award and stick it.

Carter has been working his ass off while other presidents were concerned about their libraries or speaking fees to further line their pockets. Carter is taking most of the money to fund further peace efforts. Perhaps you TC would have been glad to pony up the million dollars for that reason. If not, then go out on the road for 200 days of the year attempting to make the world a better place for someone other than yourself.

 

[tcsenter]

Why president Carter is deserving of the Nobel Peace Prize (what you don't know), a conservative perspective

It is considered plagiarism when you attempt to pass off the words of others as your own by not including the source of your information.

What, no mention that the Carter Adminstration was as vehemently opposed to communism as any red-blooded Texan? No mention that the Carter Administration initiated the US policy of funding and training the Afghan mujahideen resistence against the Soviets?

It seems as though no leftists can mention Bush or Reagan without also citing their responsibility for 'supporting terrorism' by training 'Bin Laden' in Afghanistan, yet Carter, who initiated this policy, always seems to escape mention.

 

[Moonbeam]

I hear the US was never safer than under Carter. You didn't have to go to bed at night wondering if your fruit cake president was going to start WW3. What a difference now.

 

[mAdD INDIAN]

I have nothing to add except that I met ex President Carter and shook his hand (have a pic of it, although you can only see my back). This was when he visited Nigeria to talk about human rights. He was a nice guy, he just saw me walking by and told me to come over here and shook my hand. Asked me where I'm from and some other non-important stuff..and that was that.

 

[zippy]

Originally posted by: tcsenter
Carter was given the Peace Prize, not because the committee thought Carter deserved it, but because they thought that Bush deserved a good nose-thumbing. It was the anti-Bush, not the pro-Carter, that was the basis for the award.

If Carter were truly a good American with the character he is purported to have, he would tell the Nobel committee to take their award and stick it.

I agree with the initial poster and find this to be a ridiculous statement.

Carter has worked his butt of trying to make things better for the world, maybe he wasn't the best president, but he has done more things that make this country proud than you could ever even think of. He is a tremendous American and deserves some recognition even though I'm sure he doesn't feel it necessary. He's a good man and it's too bad he is going to be remembered as a poor president, but that doesn't make the man. He is a great human being.

Also, I don't see why giving the Nobel Prize to Carter for his humanitarian efforts and all that he has done for the world is thumbing their nose at Bush. Because Carter is a Democrat in favor of diplomacy before action and Bush is more of a man of action? I don't follow your thought process, if there was any.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Originally posted by: tcsenter

Why president Carter is deserving of the Nobel Peace Prize (what you don't know), a conservative perspective

It is considered plagiarism when you attempt to pass off the words of others as your own by not including the source of your information. What, no mention that the Carter Adminstration was as vehemently opposed to communism as any red-blooded Texan? No mention that the Carter Administration initiated the US policy of funding and training the Afghan mujahideen resistence against the Soviets? It seems as though no leftists can mention Bush or Reagan without also citing their responsibility for 'supporting terrorism' by training 'Bin Laden' in Afghanistan, yet Carter, who initiated this policy, always seems to escape mention.

And Bush and Reagan did what to promote peace after leaving office? For how many years? The Nobel people have screwed up in the past especially with Arafat, and Reagan did outspend the Soviet Union helping to destabilize the central government. I will also give GW1 credit for supporting this counterpart in the USSR in an effort to keep the chances of dangerous factions from seizing powers. Still, when they were out of office, they were done. When Carter left, he worked for world peace, and is still making the attempt.

 

[tcsenter]

Carter has been working his ass off while other presidents were concerned about their libraries or speaking fees to further line their pockets. Carter is taking most of the money to fund further peace efforts. Perhaps you TC would have been glad to pony up the million dollars for that reason. If not, then go out on the road for 200 days of the year attempting to make the world a better place for someone other than yourself.

I'm not questioning that Carter deserved to be nominated or even to win the Nobel Prize, although there are certainly a thousand more deserving people who will never receive nomination or consideration because they're not rich and famous and their association with the Nobel Prize will not further the leftist political agenda of the Nobel Committee members.

Carter has been nominated dozens of times, he was passed over. What changed? Did Carter build ten thousand homes or something between this year and last year?

Of course not, what changed was the opportunity of the Nobel committee to make a political statement. Again, Carter did not receive this award because of his service to humanity, or he would have won it already. He received it as a statement of opposition against the Bush administration. That is a slap in the face not only to Carter but cheapens the significance and honor of the Nobel Peace Prize.

 

[jjones]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
I hear the US was never safer than under Carter. You didn't have to go to bed at night wondering if your fruit cake president was going to start WW3. What a difference now.

Yeah Moonie, back then we only had to wonder if the US was going to take another kick in the nuts. BTW, I like Carter, not his presidency, but his works outside of that; very great man or at least better than most.

 

[Red Dawn]

He received it as a statement of opposition against the Bush administration

Yeah right

I don't mind Bush but some of his rabid supporters and apologists really irk me. I seriously doubt that GW gives a good god damn about the prize (if he even knows what it is) and if he or others in his adminstration are bothered that Carter won it then they along with the country have a problem.

 

[UltraQuiet]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

He received it as a statement of opposition against the Bush administration

Yeah right

I don't mind Bush but some of his rabid supporters and apologists really irk me. I seriously doubt that GW gives a good god damn about the prize (if he even knows what it is) and if he or others in his adminstration are bothered that Carter won it then they along with the country have a problem.

That does in fact seem to be the case. He deserved it anyway though.

It should be interpreted as a criticism of the line that the current administration has taken," Gunnar Berge, chairman of the Nobel committee, said in Norwegian. "It's a kick in the leg to all that follow the same line as the United States."

 

[tcsenter]

Yeah right I don't mind Bush but some of his rabid supporters and apologists really irk me. I seriously doubt that GW gives a good god damn about the prize (if he even knows what it is) and if he or others in his adminstration are bothered that Carter won it then they along with the country have a problem.

Red, Red, when are you going to learn to read before opening mouth and inserting foot?

I'm sure Bush doesn't really give a hoot, but that is entirely beside the point, which you apparently missed despite my making it C-R-Y-S-T-A-L clear. The motivation which served as the basis of the committee's decision wasn't for Bush's benefit. So, in case my point wasn't clear enough for you:

October 11, 2002

Nobel Peace Prize Awarded to Carter [/u]With Criticism of Bush[/u]

By JEFFREY GETTLEMAN

New York Times

LAINS, Ga., Oct. 11 - For his peacemaking and humanitarian work over the last 25 years, former President Jimmy Carter was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize today, and the Nobel committee used the occasion to send a sharp rebuke to the Bush administration for its aggressive policy toward Iraq.

"In a situation currently marked by threats of the use of power," the Nobel citation read, "Carter has stood by the principles that conflicts must as far as possible be resolved through mediation and international cooperation based on international law, respect for human rights and economic development."

Gunnar Berge, the Nobel committee chairman, was even more direct.

The award "should be interpreted as a criticism of the line that the current administration has taken," Mr. Berge said shortly after the award was announced in Oslo.

The peace prize often carries a political message, but never before has it been so pointed.

[end excerpt]

So here we have the CHAIRMAN of the Nobel committee blatantly admitting in so many words that this award would not have been given to President Carter except for the opportunity it presented to make a political statement against the Bush Administration. As I've been saying, and the CHAIRMAN of the Nobel committee plainly confesses, this award was not bestowed upon Carter for reasons that have to do with President Carter and ONLY President Carter, but rather because it was intended to serve as a tit for the Bush Administration's tat.

That is a slap in the face to President Carter because he deserves to be recognized for his dedication to peace and service to humanity, not used as a political tool. If Carter was any decent American, he would tell the Nobel Committee to shove it.

 

[Red Dawn]

If Carter was any decent American, he would tell the Nobel Committee to shove it.

Carter is a decent American and doesn't need to refuse that prize because some wanker shot off his mouth even if the Ultra Conservative Reactionaries think he should.

 

[tcsenter]

Carter is a decent American and doesn't need to refuse that prize because some wanker shot off his mouth even if the Ultra Conservative Reactionaries think he should.

Wow, I guess you can really lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink. Once again, Red, you prove to possess enough sophistication to use a computer and type words, but little more.

 

[Ferocious]

Conservatives should love Carter for his economic decisions. But that would go against their hypocritic ways.

Carter inherited Nixon's wage-price controlled fiasco and made TWO key decisions which became cornerstones of the Reagan economic "revolution." Namely appointing Paul Volker head of the federal reserve.....along with (unthinkable at the time) beginning the art of deregulation (especially with the airlines.)

 

[Linflas]

Originally posted by: Ferocious
Conservatives should love Carter for his economic decisions. But that would go against their hypocritic ways.

Carter inherited Nixon's wage-price controlled fiasco and made TWO key decisions which became cornerstones of the Reagan economic "revolution." Namely appointing Paul Volker head of the federal reserve.....along with (unthinkable at the time) beginning the art of deregulation (especially with the airlines.)

Wage and price controls (Phase 1 and 2)were over long before Carter came into office. If I recall correctly they were gone before Nixon resigned and replaced by Ford's WIN (Whip Inflation Now) programs.

 

[JellyBaby]

Carter is a class act. His presidency was a bit before my time but most believe he didn't fit the role of President well. He deserves the honor though I hardly care about the politics/motives behind giving the NPP to him.

 

[Red Dawn]

Wow, I guess you can really lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink. Once again, Red, you prove to possess enough sophistication to use a computer and type words, but little more.

Ohhh!! You are good. You ever thought of getting a gig as one of those Red Assed Republican Talk Show hosts? I bet you could have half the country wanting to kick your ass in no time at all

 

[Zipp]

Carterpalooza!