Why, oh why do school administrators make the decisions they do?

[LilPima]

Originally posted by: polarmystery
Soy products increase estrogen production and lower testostone. They are going to turn that school into a bunch of pansies

FACT

Truth.

I study.

 

[Howard]

Originally posted by: stinkynathan
I take it most of you have never taught before. Yes, that stuff is taken out of schools because of health concerns. It's also taken out of schools because little Johnny is impossible to teach when he's bouncing off the walls when he's tripping on sugar and caffeine.

As soon as bouncing little Johnny is affecting the educational environment (other students can't learn because Johnny is disrupting class), then schools can start regulating things like what candies and pops are available for sale. I don't, however, agree with schools telling parents that they can't pack a candy bar in their kid's lunch.

Kids that are "bouncing off the walls" have other problems that need to be taken care of first. Blame the candy... right.

 

[MagnusTheBrewer]

*/Old Codger
Schools have stores now?
We thought it was progressive when they allowed gum chewing between classes or at lunch.
*/Old Codger

 

[DrPizza]

Originally posted by: MagnusTheBrewer
*/Old Codger
Schools have stores now?
We thought it was progressive when they allowed gum chewing between classes or at lunch.
*/Old Codger

Agreed. I'm a teacher and I'm sick of all the candy companies that are making big bucks off students selling candybars and other crap as fund-raisers. If everyone had half an ounce of common sense, they could buy Hershey's candy bars to eat, donate $10 to the school, and come out ahead. I've told the club I'm advisor for that I refuse to do fundraisers for the club that involve selling candy and other crap (wrapping paper, magazine subscriptions, etc.)

 

[AccruedExpenditure]

Originally posted by: apocalypse

Originally posted by: AccruedExpenditure
DOESN'T IT BOTHER ANYONE ELSE THAT THE OP SPELLED DECISIONS INCORRECTLY

Is there some new rule that spelling errors may only be pointed out in all caps?

Just shocked that it took 30+ posts for someone to point it out

 

[DangerAardvark]

My sister just got a new $1000 projector for her classroom which she's basically being forced to use. Meanwhile, her school is making cutbacks on science textbooks.

 

[DrPizza]

Originally posted by: DangerAardvark
My sister just got a new $1000 projector for her classroom which she's basically being forced to use. Meanwhile, her school is making cutbacks on science textbooks.

I haven't used a science textbook in 8 years. The only thing I use the math textbooks for is a source of homework problems to help reduce the number of handouts I need to make. I also write my own notes for the students which I put in electronic form so they can look at them whenever they need to. I supplement the notes with all sorts of animations, simulations, etc.

Textbooks? Bah. It's the 21st century.

Ohh, and it's really cool that I can run simulations large enough for the class to see, thanks to my $1000 projector.

 

[Exterous]

Originally posted by: Linflas
Money for the schools should come from local taxes, not turning the schools and students into fund raising organizations. I managed to get through 12 years of public school without having crap peddled to me so the school would have extra cash.

Edit: Just so you don't think I am being an ass I work in a middle school and fully understand what the loss of that money will mean but I still believe that the money should come from local government and not from "business partners" and sales of cokes and junk food.

Thats great in theory, however, schools all over michigan have been having budget shortfalls for the last several years - as the government has had budget shortfalls as well

 

[Exterous]

Originally posted by: DrPizza

Originally posted by: DangerAardvark
My sister just got a new $1000 projector for her classroom which she's basically being forced to use. Meanwhile, her school is making cutbacks on science textbooks.

I haven't used a science textbook in 8 years. The only thing I use the math textbooks for is a source of homework problems to help reduce the number of handouts I need to make. I also write my own notes for the students which I put in electronic form so they can look at them whenever they need to. I supplement the notes with all sorts of animations, simulations, etc.

Textbooks? Bah. It's the 21st century.

Ohh, and it's really cool that I can run simulations large enough for the class to see, thanks to my $1000 projector.

Funny that projectors should be mentioned. My wife was given a ~$1200 projector to use, but they wouldn't fork out $40 for a battery backup. In the first 2 weeks of school, there were 3 power outages and 5 brownouts due to power issues. Both the money for that and replacement bulbs were taken out of the budget due to the expected loss of money from the store. We forked over the money for a UPS so her projector would actually stay working

 

[Zenmervolt]

Originally posted by: MrChad
Sounds like they could use greater variety, but I don't see anything wrong with the school promoting healthy eating habits through their store. Isn't a bit presumptuous to say that revenues will drop as a result of the switch?

Have you never been a teenager? Of course this change will reduce revenue. First of all, there's plenty of free water at the school's drinking fountains, second of all, the scope of choices has been severely reduced, and finally the type of food has been changed from items that are widely popular to niche products.

It's not the school's place to promote "healthy [sic] eating habits". That's a parental responsibility. We don't need more nanny-state bullshit from schools.

ZV

 

[Zenmervolt]

Originally posted by: MrChad

Originally posted by: darkswordsman17
Its not like they don't know that eating healthy and exercising is good

Actually, many kids don't understand healthy eating habits, especially in lower income neighborhoods. If their parents don't teach it to them, who will?

Friends' parents, aunts, uncles, grandparents, they can pick it up through their own learning (schools still have health class to teach these things you know).

We don't need Big Brother forcing people to choose things they don't want to.

ZV

 

[AznAnarchy99]

My district did the same thing and banned chocolate, normal chips, and any kind of drink with sugar in it. Ironically, the food that they serve here is soaked in grease.

 

[grrl]

Your school has a store that sells food? The one in mine only sold stationary. I think I went in there once in 3 years.

 

[ViRGE]

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

Originally posted by: MrChad
Sounds like they could use greater variety, but I don't see anything wrong with the school promoting healthy eating habits through their store. Isn't a bit presumptuous to say that revenues will drop as a result of the switch?

Have you never been a teenager? Of course this change will reduce revenue. First of all, there's plenty of free water at the school's drinking fountains, second of all, the scope of choices has been severely reduced, and finally the type of food has been changed from items that are widely popular to niche products.

It's not the school's place to promote "healthy [sic] eating habits". That's a parental responsibility. We don't need more nanny-state bullshit from schools.ZV

It's also not in the school's place to be selling things beyond the main meals (i.e. snacks) or in the school's place to promote unhealthy habits by selling crap like candy, but they do it anyhow. It's all for the money, they sell out the future (student health) for the present.

It doesn't help that there's a ton of pressure coming from various companies. Schools create a captive audience problem, there's a lot of money to be made exploiting that through vending machines, advertisements, Channel 1 (which is really just more advertising), etc. How are you supposed to say no to someone that will buy you a new scoreboard, when all they ask is that they're allowed to sell stuff at your school?

 

[venkman]

Soy is very bad for guys, they are much better off eating buckets of Snickers than having regular soy everyday.

 

[MooMooCow]

Originally posted by: AznAnarchy99
My district did the same thing and banned chocolate, normal chips, and any kind of drink with sugar in it. Ironically, the food that they serve here is soaked in grease.

Pretty much the same for my school. What's even better is that the administration decided to close off the campus during lunch hours as well. Thank god I got out of that shithole before that happened.