Why, oh why did I visit the dealership!!???

[MiataNC]

B. So you'd rather ride an inferior machine just to be different?

Inferior to what?

The Daytona 675 is one of the most highly praised middleweight sportbikes ever produced. Chaz Davies rides the Triumph 675 in World Supersport, and finishes top 5 against the worlds best riders on Honda/Yamaha/Kawasaki/Suzuki 600s.

The Street Triple R is a slightly detuned (more mid-range...less top-end) Daytona 675 without the plastics and a better seating position. It sports the same brakes and suspension as the Daytona, and is an incredible street/track machine.

My Triumph dealer is over stocked with used Daytonas, because the owners trade them in for Street-Rs.

 

[soccerballtux]

Keep learning and honing your skills. The Street-R is NOT a bike for a novice. It is a slightly detuned Daytona 675 with the plastics removed, and a better seating position. It has a 3.4:1 power to weight (compared to a 1050 Triple that has a 3.5:1). So don't assume it is slow or underpowered. It just makes power differently than the liter bike.

This sort of advice was the worst advice I ever heard. I've been learning on my sv1000s without a problem. People were fussing all over the place...it's just power, be gentle on the throttle and you'll be fine.

 

[MiataNC]

This sort of advice was the worst advice I ever heard. I've been learning on my sv1000s without a problem. People were fussing all over the place...it's just power, be gentle on the throttle and you'll be fine.

Right......because improving your skills before moving up to a more powerful and capable bike is a waste of time. I will be sure to send your post over to the sanctioning boards for WERA, AMA, WSS, WSBK, and MotoGP. It is a crime how many riders they are holding back in the sub classes, when all they have to do is be gentle on the throttle to handle a premier class bike.

...it's just power, be gentle on the throttle and you'll be fine.

You mean like the guy in this thread?
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2108527

She thinks he target fixated after going into a turn too fast and went off the road. She saw a dust cloud and his bike went flying with him with it. She stopped as quickly as she could and when she reached him he was unconscious, blood pouring from his face, and he was struggling to breathe. The paramedics came and a helicopter took him to the hospital. They had to drill holes in his head to relieve pressure and operate on one of his legs...he may not make it.


He was on a GSXR750...it was his first bike.

All the truly "fast guys" made the turn he didn't, but don't listen to any advice about improving skills. It is just a waste of time.

 

[SpatiallyAware]

This sort of advice was the worst advice I ever heard. I've been learning on my sv1000s without a problem. People were fussing all over the place...it's just power, be gentle on the throttle and you'll be fine.

Please.... not this shit again....

 

[SpatiallyAware]

Inferior to what?

The Daytona 675 is one of the most highly praised middleweight sportbikes ever produced. Chaz Davies rides the Triumph 675 in World Supersport, and finishes top 5 against the worlds best riders on Honda/Yamaha/Kawasaki/Suzuki 600s.

The Street Triple R is a slightly detuned (more mid-range...less top-end) Daytona 675 without the plastics and a better seating position. It sports the same brakes and suspension as the Daytona, and is an incredible street/track machine.

My Triumph dealer is over stocked with used Daytonas, because the owners trade them in for Street-Rs.

FWIW

I had a Daytona 675 (06 I believe, the first year they came out) and it was a total POS. I've never in my life had a bike that was at the dealer so much, and Triumph of NA are HORRIBLE to deal with.


From day 1 it had an odd stutter if you were between 15-90% throttle.. it was very picky, sometimes this stutter was enough to almost kill the motor but usually it was just 'noticeable'. long long long story short I ended up having to FRONT the money for a new ECU in hopes it'd fix it (it did). This took ~6 months of fighting to get fixed. They wanted me to pay for tons of the diagnostic time (even though the bike is under warranty??). FWIW my dealer wasn't bad, but Triumph of NA would deny literally every warranty claim submitted.

About a month after the stuttering was finally fixed my low beam starting to get blank spots on the road.. hard to explain, but I took it in and they advised me that a previous owner swapped the bulbs for high wattage which melted the housing... Uhm... I was the original owner and definitely didn't swap any bulbs out or whatever. This took a letter from a lawyer to get fixed, and I sold it after that.

I had other issues that in comparison were minor (tach was jumpy sometimes, hard to start when cold, the bike in general was extremely twitchy and not confidence inspiring even with properly setup suspension) just overall a bad experience. I sold it around 8k miles.

 

[ViviTheMage]

I love threads where money is involved, and high interest rates.

 

[soccerballtux]

Right......because improving your skills before moving up to a more powerful and capable bike is a waste of time. I will be sure to send your post over to the sanctioning boards for WERA, AMA, WSS, WSBK, and MotoGP. It is a crime how many riders they are holding back in the sub classes, when all they have to do is be gentle on the throttle to handle a premier class bike.


You mean like the guy in this thread?
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2108527


All the truly "fast guys" made the turn he didn't, but don't listen to any advice about improving skills. It is just a waste of time.

I posted in that thread. He drove too fast. Any rider can drive too fast on any bike.

 

[roguerower]

I pay @$550 a year for full coverage on a Triumph Speed Triple 1050 (I'm 38 with a perfect record.)

Damn...I guess being male & 23 really kills it for me.

Whatever loan has the best rates/terms. It is always better if you don't borrow, but better to ride what you love than settle.

Thank you for answering my original question. I guess since I'm getting full coverage, it won't matter what kind of loan it is.

You keep your current insurance, change bikes on the policy, and pay the difference (since the rate will be higher on a higher spec bike)

Thank you again for answering my questions.

Keep learning and honing your skills. The Street-R is NOT a bike for a novice. It is a slightly detuned Daytona 675 with the plastics removed, and a better seating position. It has a 3.4:1 power to weight (compared to a 1050 Triple that has a 3.5:1). So don't assume it is slow or underpowered. It just makes power differently than the liter bike.

I do understand that. Which is another reason I am waiting to buy it rather than selling my GS RIGHT NOW. I still have a shload to learn and the 500 is the best (and most fun) bike to do it on.

Soccerballtux, you're advice is no longer needed. Please butt out.

Spatially, that sounds too bad. I haven't heard a story from the opposite side of the spectrum, so thank you for playing devil's advocate in a productive manner.

 

[Throckmorton]

I love threads where money is involved, and high interest rates.

And death machines

 

[JulesMaximus]

Oilfieldtrash, here's a review by motorcycle.com. It's a shootout between the Triple R and the new Monster 796.

http://www.motorcycle.com/shoot-out...riple-r-vs-2011-ducati-monster-796-89973.html

Pretty sure neither of those bikes are "inferior" to the japanese supersports. Different? Yes. Inferior? No.

EDIT: It was their 2009 Motorcycle of the Year. Lost 2010 to the BMW SS1000R (which is a sexy bike).

As much as we enjoyed the plentiful powerband of the Duc’s air-cooled Twin, we nevertheless prefer the inline-Triple’s slippery smooth power delivery. What it lacks in torque compared to the Monster is more than made up for on the top end. The little 675 has way more low-end and midrange steam than any 600cc Four, and yet its upper-end hit nearly matches a middleweight supersport’s.

Granted this is just one review, but most of the reviews I've read tend to lean the same way.

You aren't going to change my mind, but thanks for trying. I'm just trying to backup my decision, don't take it personally.

I've ridden the Ducati Monster 1100 S and it is absolutely fantastic. The Monster 796 looks to slot right in between the 1100 and the 696 (the latter of which I would never even consider because I already own the liquid cooled Japanese equivalent of that bike) but the 800 does interest me. I'll have to go test ride one. That 1100 S just does everything right though IMO. Plenty of torque, effortless wheelies, great looks, top notch suspenders and brakes for fun in the twisties.

Edit-I don't know you, I haven't ridden with you and nobody has asked me for my opinion on this matter but I think you should really take a long hard look at yourself and your abilities/experience before you even think about buying a faster bike. I suggest you look at the SV650 instead of financing a Triumph at that high an interest rate. You could probably sell your bike and almost afford a clean SV without financing.

Honestly, I'll buy my Ducati when I'm ready to financially (meaning when I have the disposable income)...not because I think it would be that much better than my current bike.

 

[skyofavalon]

real men ride Harleys

 

[JulesMaximus]

real men ride Harleys

:thumbsup: Truth