Why OC?

[Cygnus X1]

I overclocked my 3200+Venice from 2ghz to 2.4 by raising the FSB to 240. All is stable and fine. Question is where will I notice and speed increase/ real world speed increase?

If OC just gives me bigger e-penis then I will just bring it back to stock, because I can't notice anything different. Seems fast as it was.

Everest reports I went from a 3200+ to a 3800+, but if it really don't matter then WTF?
Am I right in thinking this? Please tell me a reason to keep this OC...?

 

[3chordcharlie]

If you encode, or game or do anything else where your cpu is kept at 100%, then Ocing is worth it.

If you surf the internet and type, you can keep using your 300mhz laptop. like me

 

[F1shF4t]

i have owned a p4 northwood 3.2 ghz, and upgraded to a athlon 64 3200+, i guess first reason why i overclocked was to justify the upgrade
Otherwise look at my sig i have got almost fx55 speeds for the price of a 3200+.
Also i see quite a big difference in video encoding, using ulead dvd workshop it takes much less time to encode a dvd, i think my p4 did it in 3.5 - 4 hours while my a64 does it in 2 -3 hours.

with my overclock i have noticed that the comp started to be more responsive as in the apps load faster and ofcourse better benchmark scores
like 3chordcharlie said, if u play games or encode or anything intensive u will notice a diff, otherwise there is not much point.
Although in games u will be gfx card limited anyways.

anyways since we have the same mobo whats the max HTT speed ur mainboard can handle, my one after 275 will start playing up as the boot screen will be corrupt.

 

[Cygnus X1]

anyways since we have the same mobo whats the max HTT speed ur mainboard can handle, my one after 275 will start playing up as the boot screen will be corrupt.[/quote]


I have just tried 240 at 1.45 and it was fine temps at 41 max after 2 hours BF2...
I have stock cooling but it seems like I could just raise up to 260 no problem..LOL. Would that be 4000+ speeds?

I think having the e3 stepping venice core helps with the overclock. It feels like it really wants it I do play BF2 and CSS, but it's hard to tell if the OC helps as I am VC bottlenecked.

 

[F1shF4t]

actually 4000+ speeds are at 2.4ghz so at 240HTT but the 4000+ has 1mg cache, my one is at fx55 speeds but half the cache.
I have stock cooling also (and E3 core) and my max temp so far is 50, i have seen it at 51 for a sec, well i live in australia and in a non airconditioned room the ambient gets to like 35 degrees so i think thats pretty good considering that , when its colder at 2.5ghz which i had before i replaced the 2 * 256 mg geil ram with 2 * 512 corsair value select, it only got to a max of 42 degrees.

By the way whats your divider set at, my one is at 3:2 and at 240HTT my ram is exactly ddr400 speeds

Try cranking it up to 260 HTT ( dont worry much about the divider for the HTT bus since my one does not work below 4 ), it should be able to do it at that voltage.
I will try setting mine at 270HTT now to see what happens.

EDIT
ok booted at 270HTT needed 1.5 volts though, havent tested stability though, i dont thing the voltage rise is not worth 100mhz since i can run it at 2.6ghz at only 1.45 volts
Also every memory devider besides 3:2 and the 1:1 are stuffed on my board so go figure

 

[amd200mhz]

I underclock my cpu just to keep it cool.

 

[Cygnus X1]

By the way whats your divider set at, my one is at 3:2 and at 240HTT my ram is exactly ddr400 speeds

I looked and it was at 1:1 (DDR 200) So I set it to 2:1 (DDR 400) is that better for speed? Sorry im new to this optimizing thing.

 

[F1shF4t]

Originally posted by: Cygnus X1

By the way whats your divider set at, my one is at 3:2 and at 240HTT my ram is exactly ddr400 speeds

I looked and it was at 1:1 (DDR 200) So I set it to 2:1 (DDR 400) is that better for speed? Sorry im new to this optimizing thing.

um i think the 1:1 ration on the asus board is called 2:1 which is ddr400 at 200HTT
Beats me why they made it different to all else.
yea it should be at ddr 400, also ur ram should overclock much better than mine so u might be able to get HTT 240 at the 2:1 setting, maybe u already doing it

The memory deviders on this board are seriously stuffed, firstly cool and quite changes the ram speeds, i looked up the table and it should not do that (3:2 and the 2:1 does not do this). Also every memory devider makes the ram run faster than it should by some ammount.

I guess there is a reason why this board is not popular among overclockers

 

[biostud]

same reason you bought a 3200+ instead of a 3000+, except o/c is speed for free.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

With a 6600GT @500/450 400-500mhz should be noticable in newer titles since you are playing@res and settings that keep the CPU working harder. For myself, my personal usage aside, the place I see the obvious benefit of overclocking is with distributed computing projects. goin' from 2ghz stock on X2 to 2.5ghz increases the amount of work my system can do in a month dramatically. Took my E@H times from a bit over 7hrs avg. to a bit over 5hrs. It required almost no voltage boost either so the power draw is more than compensated for by the increased production. Approx. 2hrs a unit increase is huge in a years times, for myself that is a awesome real world benefit.

 

[Chesebert]

Originally posted by: amd200mhz
I underclock my cpu just to keep it cool.

I do also for my HTPC...running it almost fanless...alomst..

 

[CP5670]

I don't think most modern games will get much out of a processor overclock. The peak framerates will go higher but the minimum framerates will be about the same. I want to overclock mainly for added performance in emulators and Mathematica, although my current board and CPU won't let me get anywhere,

Originally posted by: Dark Cupcake

Originally posted by: Cygnus X1

By the way whats your divider set at, my one is at 3:2 and at 240HTT my ram is exactly ddr400 speeds

I looked and it was at 1:1 (DDR 200) So I set it to 2:1 (DDR 400) is that better for speed? Sorry im new to this optimizing thing.

um i think the 1:1 ration on the asus board is called 2:1 which is ddr400 at 200HTT
Beats me why they made it different to all else.
yea it should be at ddr 400, also ur ram should overclock much better than mine so u might be able to get HTT 240 at the 2:1 setting, maybe u already doing it

The memory deviders on this board are seriously stuffed, firstly cool and quite changes the ram speeds, i looked up the table and it should not do that (3:2 and the 2:1 does not do this). Also every memory devider makes the ram run faster than it should by some ammount.

I guess there is a reason why this board is not popular among overclockers

The dividers are all messed up with rev E processors on this board. Some don't work at all and others give the wrong ratio. I got an Opteron 146 recently but gave up trying to overclock it on this board as I couldn't get most of the dividers working at all, I'm back to my crappy OCing rev D engineering sample for now, as that at least can get a slight boost. I'll just get a DFI board once my college semester ends and i get more time to mess around with this.

 

[phaxmohdem]

I OC'd my main rig in sig (FX-51) because:
1) A 2.4GHz 1MB Athlon64 keeps me from getting the upgrade bug as often, since it keeps me thinking my CPU is fairly fast still by todays standards
2) I do encode video a lot, and encoding minutes saved is worth it to me
3) Finally e-penis++

 

[Sparky19692]

Originally posted by: amd200mhz
I underclock my cpu just to keep it cool.

Ok Why? I understand keeping it cooler but why not just under volt?
Im running my 3500+ @2.4 Ghz @ 1.300volts Running folding all the time peak temp 31°C

 

[Cygnus X1]

Originally posted by: CP5670
I don't think most modern games will get much out of a processor overclock. The peak framerates will go higher but the minimum framerates will be about the same. I want to overclock mainly for added performance in emulators and Mathematica, although my current board and CPU won't let me get anywhere,

So would I gain more framerates from overclocking my 6600gt to the max, more than OC'ing my processor? Since my processor at 2ghz is more than enough for BF2....

 

[kamranziadar]

Overclock give you more FPS and run application faster because your computer speed is faster. It can do more calculation per second etc etc etc etc.
Why do i have to explain to you?

 

[TuxDave]

Originally posted by: amd200mhz
I underclock my cpu just to keep it cool.

The last time I underclocked my CPU was back in the days where there were jumpers on the motherboard which determined the multiplier of the processor. Unfortunately one of the jumpers broke rendering my 200MHz beast to 166MHz.

 

[phaxmohdem]

Originally posted by: TuxDave
The last time I underclocked my CPU was back in the days where there were jumpers on the motherboard which determined the multiplier of the processor. Unfortunately one of the jumpers broke rendering my 200MHz beast to 166MHz.

LOL. Man I would have been pissed back in the day if that happened to me!

My first OC experience, was with my trusty 486 DX33 OC'd to 40MHz on TRUE AIR! with no Heatsink -or- Fan

 

[OptyMyStix]

If you are a serious gamer or fan of overclocking, check the space around CPU is spacious enough for you to install a larger heatsink-fan combination to keep things cool. Go for motherboard which has the facility to overclock FSB in steps of 1 MHz and core voltage adjustment.

 

[2kfire]

I OC because it's free speed. Why run my winnie 3000+ @ 1.8GHz when it does 2.43 GHz (better than 3800+) at the same voltage? It's like buying a Civic, and as easy as pushing a few radio buttons, you get the performance of an S2000. :thumbsup:

 

[Avalon]

Originally posted by: Cygnus X1
I overclocked my 3200+Venice from 2ghz to 2.4 by raising the FSB to 240. All is stable and fine. Question is where will I notice and speed increase/ real world speed increase?

If OC just gives me bigger e-penis then I will just bring it back to stock, because I can't notice anything different. Seems fast as it was.

Everest reports I went from a 3200+ to a 3800+, but if it really don't matter then WTF?
Am I right in thinking this? Please tell me a reason to keep this OC...?

What do you use your computer for? If it's anything that requires a lengthy time of near 100% CPU power, you'll notice time gains.

If it's for gaming, you may or may not notice a small boost in framerate at lower resolutions, such as 1024x768. But a 400mhz boost would be much harder to tell in this area than, say, an 800mhz OC like I have.

If you don't want to keep the OC, then don't.

 

[Cygnus X1]

When I set my memoery divider to 2:1 (DDR 400) and raised the FSB to 240, when I rebooted I got a "NTFS error or overheat error" |BSOD|and had to go back to the 1:1 (DDR 200).

Right now I'm not overclocked. What should my DDR Voltage be set at because when I had the stable 240 increase it was set to auto, is auto ok?

 

[Concillian]

Originally posted by: Cygnus X1
So would I gain more framerates from overclocking my 6600gt to the max, more than OC'ing my processor? Since my processor at 2ghz is more than enough for BF2....

Yes.

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=23973

Scroll down to "memory and CPU" and check out the chart. OCing CPU won't do much in terms of noticeable differences in many real world gaming situations.

 

[Rustler]

My Asus rig was due for a processor upgrade, I had a Winchester @ 2500MHz at stock voltage. Now my Opteron does 2900MHz @ stock voltage so for 100 buck out of pocket upgrade cost I am able to get 400MHz more than my Winchester not to mention the cache that is twice as big.

 

[Zap]

Originally posted by: Cygnus X1
I do play BF2 and CSS, but it's hard to tell if the OC helps as I am VC bottlenecked.

Well, time to upgrade or overclock that video card then.

Originally posted by: amd200mhz
I underclock my cpu just to keep it cool.

You can do both. I've had my CPU (2800+) overclocked to 2.4GHz, but when not gaming have had it underclocked to 1.33GHz and undervolted, using RMclock.