Why no Abit boards on AMD recommended list?

[Matador9]

Hi all:
I'm building an XP system and am looking at motherboards. There have been some good reviews for Abit's KR7A-RAID, but when I checked AMD's recommended list on their website, no Abit boards were on it at all. Am I missing something?

-John

 

[AA0]

I don't put much faith in their lists, I mean ECS is on that list consistantly, and we all see their problems. I see more problems with brand name AMD approved psu's compared to generic psus also.

 

[Buz2b]

Let me offer another side of things and I'll also use the ecs k7s5a as an example. That board, long after it originally came out, was not on the AMD recommended list of MB's for use with a regular T-Bird; only for an AMD XP. Mind you, it had been out for months before the XP was released and was one of the most popular boards around for Athlon usage. This same board was also very picky about PS's also. Your chances of getting it to work without using an AMD approved PS were much less than 50/50. So the AMD recommended lists are inconsistant at best. Don't worry about it. BTW, the ECS board is one fine MB for the vast majority of users, but that is a different argument for a different thread and has been beaten to death anyway.

 

[jaeger66]

AMD's list contains ECS, Biostar, and Jetway. I believe all three are available at Toys R Us. You can safely ignore the list, IOW.

 

[dew042]

<< AMD's list contains ECS, Biostar, and Jetway. I believe all three are available at Toys R Us. You can safely ignore the list, IOW. >>



for sure. isn't the golden orb still on their recomended HSF list ????

dew.

 

[Matador9]

Thanks for the information all. I expect you'll be hearing more from me shortly.

 

[todays]

I don't believe the Alpha 8045 is on the list either and it is probably in the top 2 of heatsinks for the Socket A CPU.

 

[ShinSa]

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<< AMD's list contains ECS, Biostar, and Jetway. I believe all three are available at Toys R Us. You can safely ignore the list, IOW. >>



for sure. isn't the golden orb still on their recomended HSF list ????

dew. >>




just out of curiosity, whats wrong with the golden orb??

 

[PUNKtotalled]

<< << AMD's list contains ECS, Biostar, and Jetway. I believe all three are available at Toys R Us. You can safely ignore the list, IOW. >> >>






lol

 

[JustStarting]

<<It doesn't contain ABIT boards b/c they don't follow AMD guidelines on hiding real CPU frequency, maybe. Or something else similar. I have to say that there can be hardly found a good board from ABIT. Yes, they look nice on paper, but when you take a closer look at the PCB you can feel dissapointment. I mean, they look like some low quality stuff. And they very rarely update the BIOS, for some models - never. ECS looks way better, IMVHO. >>

Are you high!! Look at all the trouble posts for ECS, and then compare that to the trouble posts for Abit. You won't get past 10 posts to find an ECS board "problem" at any time here. Abit is only awarded the Editor's Golden Award here on Anandtech reviews of the KT266A's. Where is ECS on that review?? Are you saying the quality of a $55 board compares to the quality of an Abit? 4 working DIMM's, 6 PCI slots. Not creating a flame war, but do some research before you start bashing Abit. As for the bios updates- if you get it right to start, you don't need updates every month.

 

[gdawson6]

ECS manufacutred a motherboard with Pink PCB....Enough said.

 

[powerMarkymark]

Abit KR7A 133 Raid ROCKS man, I decided on it and have not regretted it for a moment.

Go for it.

 

[mechBgon]

I had an Abit BP6 once upon a time, and had no complaints about it, but the $25 RMA policy will be a bitter pill to swallow if your Abit board happens to be defective.

I also take reviews with a big grain of salt, since I expect the motherboard manufacturers do thorough testing of the individual boards they send to big sites for review. If there's one thing I listen for on the forums, it's feedback on what companies treat the end user right when there's a problem. So far, Abit doesn't seem to be rated very highly in that area.

 

[bowie71]

I think ABIT and other mobos that are not listed on the AMD recommendation list are just to cheap to send AMD the mobo they produce for free.... AMD doesn't want to waste its money, resources and time to test the mobos by buying them in the market ... CHEAP company cheap quality then..... J/K hehehhe.... LOL

 

[jaeger66]

I have news for you all-NO motherboard maker is good with support and RMAs. Not Abit, Asus, MSI, Gigabyte, or IWill and certainly not ECS. They all have the same reason-they're too big to support all the end users.

 

[mechBgon]

That may be so, jaeger66, although I'd like to know how much data you have behind that statement. But regardless, I've only heard of one company (so far) that actually charges $25 to RMA their possibly-defective product.

Actually, I've heard around here that EPoX is particularly good about supporting the end users, and I am considering that factor as I consider what brand of motherboards to use in our new systems at work later this year.

 

[DukeChestnut]

well i have some experience with abit and personally i don't like their mobos.

 

[SonicTron]

<< Let me offer another side of things and I'll also use the ecs k7s5a as an example. That board, long after it originally came out, was not on the AMD recommended list of MB's for use with a regular T-Bird; only for an AMD XP. Mind you, it had been out for months before the XP was released and was one of the most popular boards around for Athlon usage. This same board was also very picky about PS's also. Your chances of getting it to work without using an AMD approved PS were much less than 50/50. So the AMD recommended lists are inconsistant at best. Don't worry about it. BTW, the ECS board is one fine MB for the vast majority of users, but that is a different argument for a different thread and has been beaten to death anyway. >>


HEHE my K7S5A works on not only a non-amd approved PS, but its a 250W Deer PS that I've been using for like 3 years straight now

 

[AA0]

Abit's RMA policy stinks, but most people RMA their boards because they don't know what they are doing. Epox has the best support I've seen of any company ever.

 

[CoDerEd]

ABIT doesn't need to be recomended by AMD to sell their product.

 

[ShinSa]

Abit has made some great stuff over the past years. My only guess about why it's not on the AMD's list is that the board was designed for overclockers. Back couple of years ago, overclocking was the sole purpose ABIt lived for and they made sure end users be aware of that. I mean in my BE6-IIs manual, theres even a small section on how to overclock. When was the last time a manufacturer encouraged overclcoking??


As for comparioson with ECS, I'll choose ABIt's jumperless bios over ECS anyday.

Their RMA policy does kinda suck but if a board doesnt break, why fix it???

Im glad to hear EPOX has a good policy but That's expected form the amount 'bad' batch of 8KHA+ that's been floating around on this forum. It was a nightmare for me when my 8KHA+ wouldnt boot.

 

[InterWebGuy]

I've got a KR7A (non raid), and appart from it not correctly reporting the amount of RAM at post, it's been flawless *crosses fingers*

My abit was easy to set up and is doing everything I tell it too.. I like it more than the Asus boards I've used, and were it not for the memory issue, I'd be using them exclusively.

My .02
IWG

 

[ShinSa]

<< I've got a KR7A (non raid), and appart from it not correctly reporting the amount of RAM at post, it's been flawless *crosses fingers*

My abit was easy to set up and is doing everything I tell it too.. I like it more than the Asus boards I've used, and were it not for the memory issue, I'd be using them exclusively.

My .02
IWG >>



Hows it not reporting correctly?? The size? the speed?? Have you tried seating it in a different slot? Does it work in other mobos???