Solved! Why my friend's PC gets into same boot problem everytimes?

rajveer399

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My friend has a budget computer with i3 CPU and 4GB RAM. His computer always gets the same problem of Windows not booting up. For like 1 year we tried to reinstall Windows several times and after doing some fixes or taking the PC to repair shop, his computer will run fine for 2-3 months and then will develop the same boot problem.
After powering ON the PC, BIOS screen will show and Windows logo will appear but then an error message will come saying something like "Windows is not able to start, ETC and vice versa". Sometimes Windows tries to repair itself with Startup Repair but then it fails.
We have tried different Windows versions from Windows 7 to Windows 10 but this booting problem comes every time. We also replaced the HDD but the problem continues.

What could be the CULPRIT?
 
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This kind of thing is usually going to be a hardware problem. It could be a bad SATA cable, a bad power supply, a bad memory module, or a bad motherboard. If the system is overclocked, make sure to return everything to standard clocks for troubleshooting. I am also presuming that the copy of Windows used is legitimate and isn't hacked in any way (which can itself cause many issues).

Some easy things to try:

1) Run a memory diagnostic test (you can use the Windows Memory Test utility, or something 3rd party like Memtest86+) to check the memory. A defective memory module can cause downstream hard drive errors.
2) It wouldn't hurt to install a monitoring utility like HWINFO to check temps to ensure nothing is overheating.
3) Install...

Steltek

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This kind of thing is usually going to be a hardware problem. It could be a bad SATA cable, a bad power supply, a bad memory module, or a bad motherboard. If the system is overclocked, make sure to return everything to standard clocks for troubleshooting. I am also presuming that the copy of Windows used is legitimate and isn't hacked in any way (which can itself cause many issues).

Some easy things to try:

1) Run a memory diagnostic test (you can use the Windows Memory Test utility, or something 3rd party like Memtest86+) to check the memory. A defective memory module can cause downstream hard drive errors.
2) It wouldn't hurt to install a monitoring utility like HWINFO to check temps to ensure nothing is overheating.
3) Install the hard drive manufacturer's diagnostic software (or a 3rd party utility like CrystalDiskInfo) and run a SMART test on the drive. Though you've swapped the drive, that doesn't mean the new drive couldn't also be defective (though it isn't likely that is the case). Rather, the SMART test results might also indicate if the drive is having a hardware communications issue with the system.
4) If you have never done it, try to replace the drive's SATA cable with a new one. You also can try to change the SATA port the cable is plugged in to. If the motherboard has SATA ports provided by multiple chipsets (i.e. such as Intel and Asmedia), make sure the drive is always plugged into an Intel-provided port as they tend to be the most stable.
5) Check the Windows reliability history to see if there is a recurrent failure or other recurrent problem that would suggest a source
6) Make sure the system is running the most recent available BIOS

You didn't provide a system component list (i.e. make/models of power supply, motherboard, memory, hard drive, etc) so it is hard to give further specific suggestions. However, in general, when it comes time to try swapping hardware to troubleshoot, I suggest that you start with the power supply (you can set a spare up outside the case and just swap all the cables over to test before removing the old one). If the memory and power supply test out okay, I'd only then at this point consider swapping the motherboard.

One final thing to try before actually replacing the motherboard is to remove it, check the mounts to make sure nothing is grounding out, then re-mounting it to see if this resolves the issue.

If you suspect a bad motherboard but the problem isn't getting any worse, you could try to add a cheap PCIe SATA card to the system to see if it resolves the boot issues before buying a new motherboard.
 
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VirtualLarry

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Also, I would do an offline bootable "deep scan" for viruses and rootkits, and also possibly take the CPU heatsink OFF, and then (very carefully!) remove the CPU, and check the mobo CPU socket for "bent pins". Use a flashlight and a magnifying glass, if need be.

Depending on the age of the mobo, the chipset on the mobo may need to be re-pasted as well. Southbridge chipset overheating can cause boot errors and data-corruption.

You could try also to flash the BIOS, but that's risky, and could brick the mobo if it's already an unstable system. But if the problem is BIOS bit-rot in the EEPROM, it could also fix it.
 

rajveer399

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Jan 15, 2019
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This kind of thing is usually going to be a hardware problem. It could be a bad SATA cable, a bad power supply, a bad memory module, or a bad motherboard. If the system is overclocked, make sure to return everything to standard clocks for troubleshooting. I am also presuming that the copy of Windows used is legitimate and isn't hacked in any way (which can itself cause many issues).

Some easy things to try:

1) Run a memory diagnostic test (you can use the Windows Memory Test utility, or something 3rd party like Memtest86+) to check the memory. A defective memory module can cause downstream hard drive errors.
2) It wouldn't hurt to install a monitoring utility like HWINFO to check temps to ensure nothing is overheating.
3) Install the hard drive manufacturer's diagnostic software (or a 3rd party utility like CrystalDiskInfo) and run a SMART test on the drive. Though you've swapped the drive, that doesn't mean the new drive couldn't also be defective (though it isn't likely that is the case). Rather, the SMART test results might also indicate if the drive is having a hardware communications issue with the system.
4) If you have never done it, try to replace the drive's SATA cable with a new one. You also can try to change the SATA port the cable is plugged in to. If the motherboard has SATA ports provided by multiple chipsets (i.e. such as Intel and Asmedia), make sure the drive is always plugged into an Intel-provided port as they tend to be the most stable.
5) Check the Windows reliability history to see if there is a recurrent failure or other recurrent problem that would suggest a source
6) Make sure the system is running the most recent available BIOS

You didn't provide a system component list (i.e. make/models of power supply, motherboard, memory, hard drive, etc) so it is hard to give further specific suggestions. However, in general, when it comes time to try swapping hardware to troubleshoot, I suggest that you start with the power supply (you can set a spare up outside the case and just swap all the cables over to test before removing the old one). If the memory and power supply test out okay, I'd only then at this point consider swapping the motherboard.

One final thing to try before actually replacing the motherboard is to remove it, check the mounts to make sure nothing is grounding out, then re-mounting it to see if this resolves the issue.

If you suspect a bad motherboard but the problem isn't getting any worse, you could try to add a cheap PCIe SATA card to the system to see if it resolves the boot issues before buying a new motherboard.
I am definitely gonna try these suggestions to find out the fault. Very helpful answer and suggestions by the way. Thank you so much bro
 

rajveer399

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Jan 15, 2019
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Also, I would do an offline bootable "deep scan" for viruses and rootkits, and also possibly take the CPU heatsink OFF, and then (very carefully!) remove the CPU, and check the mobo CPU socket for "bent pins". Use a flashlight and a magnifying glass, if need be.

Depending on the age of the mobo, the chipset on the mobo may need to be re-pasted as well. Southbridge chipset overheating can cause boot errors and data-corruption.

You could try also to flash the BIOS, but that's risky, and could brick the mobo if it's already an unstable system. But if the problem is BIOS bit-rot in the EEPROM, it could also fix it.
I don't think it might be a malware issue because there was Kaspersky antivirus was installed, but i will check the MOBO and BIOS thing for sure. Thank you