Why must 85% of Sci Fi channel programming be an accomplishment in

[dainthomas]

Originally posted by: Kadarin
Speaking of Doctor Who... While Martha Jones is great, I still miss Rose.

I like how the Doctor's character has been developing. And Martha does seem nice, but she really needs to work on the personality.

 

[ViRGE]

Originally posted by: slag

Originally posted by: ViRGE
I was with you until you started wanting to kill off Atlantis cast members. McKay is hilarious and Shepard is right behind him. The writers are already turning things upside-down(Beckett: gone, Weir: gone, Carter: moved over from SG-1), I'd rather not have the writers messing with the Core 4 (Dax, Shepard, McKay, and Teyla) too.

WAIT.. where did Weir go?

Did you not notice that she kind of got blown up in the season finale? She's not coming back, Carter is the new queen of Atlantis(MGM had a 2 year contract with Tapping, so they got rid of the Weir character to make room for the Carter character).

 

[ViRGE]

Originally posted by: Kadarin

Originally posted by: dainthomas

Originally posted by: elektrolokomotive
For some reason, I've been preferring BBC America lately. Plenty of Dr. Who, the new Torchwood series is about to air...

You'll like this then:

July 31, 2007 - HDNet announced today that it has acquired the high definition rights to the first twenty-six episodes of TORCHWOOD, the hit sci-fi drama that the BBC describes as "inventive, intelligent and unpredictable."

Linky

Sweet!!

I downloaded a few of the Torchwood episodes that have aired over in the UK, and while they're ok, they're nowhere near the caliber of the current Doctor Who. Hopefully, the later episodes will pick up as the cast, crew, and writers get more familiar with the ideas and characters.

Speaking of Doctor Who... While Martha Jones is great, I still miss Rose.

Torchwood is complete and utter dreck. The BBC lets their production group do a DW-like show without the constraints of being family friendly, and the only thing they accomplish in 13 episodes is bad CGI, senseless sex, a female lead that looks like she took a boot to the face, and a motley crew of schizophrenic characters. The writers made the fans hate all the characters, even the normally lovable Captain Jack, and now there's no reason to watch or care about the show.

 

[Polish3d]

Originally posted by: ViRGE
I was with you until you started wanting to kill off Atlantis cast members. McKay is hilarious and Shepard is right behind him. The writers are already turning things upside-down(Beckett: gone, Weir: gone, Carter: moved over from SG-1), I'd rather not have the writers messing with the Core 4 (Dax, Shepard, McKay, and Teyla) too.

Thank Goodness for Carter. Amanda Tapping is awesome.


Stargate Atlantis has lightweight formulaic pansy-assed characters that are so lame it becomes offensive to watch; the attempt to pawn these dickwranglers off as those whom humanity would entrust something like Atlantis to is an insult to either my intelligence or the intelligence of the casting director, maybe both.


Jack O'Neill was a tough character, edgy, with that military-mind. Superb character
Daniel Jackson, superb character as well
Teal'c - also superb
Carter, also superb, and very great interplay with her and Jack's unrealized love affair


SG-1 had a rich and deep storyline, where the writers really took the idea of the Stargate and built it into the contemporary world without shame or timidity. It had politics, military, geopolitics, originality...



It wasn't just another half-assed vehicle to run the same old formula of Funny Guy, Semi-Stud, Idiot, Girl, etc etc through the same old storyline templates with slightly different background scenery.



The plotlines of Atlantis (and Eureka for that matter) are so formulaic that one can actually watch an episode and recognize the formula template used.

 

[shortylickens]

I havent read every post yet, but I'm sure somebody already said it:

Because there isnt enough to fill up a whole channel for 24 hours a day, 365 days a year.

Thats why I was so amazed when I first heard a buddy of mine brag about having 100 channels on his satellite.
Most of the 29 broadcast channels were filled with crap already. What the hell did he think he was gonna get with 100 of them?
Nowadays we have almost 1000 and I seriously dont think the percentage is any better.

 

[Kadarin]

Originally posted by: shortylickens
I havent read every post yet, but I'm sure somebody already said it:

Because there isnt enough to fill up a whole channel for 24 hours a day, 365 days a year.

Thats why I was so amazed when I first heard a buddy of mine brag about having 100 channels on his satellite.
Most of the 29 broadcast channels were filled with crap already. What the hell did he think he was gonna get with 100 of them?
Nowadays we have almost 1000 and I seriously dont think the percentage is any better.

Sturgeon's Law: 90% of everything is crap.

He was an optimist.

 

[Shadowknight]

Originally posted by: slag
WAIT.. where did Weir go?

Through the gateway to the other universe, obviously.

 

[Raduque]

Originally posted by: Shadowknight

Originally posted by: slag
WAIT.. where did Weir go?

Through the gateway to the other universe, obviously.

Where we're going, you don't need eyes.....

Which is a good thing, because 100% of broadcast TV sucks over there!

 

[Kadarin]

Well, the new Flash Gordon on scifi channel is utter crap... (not that I expected anything different)

 

[Shadowknight]

Originally posted by: preslove
Good sci-fi is expensive to produce/buy. That crap is cheap enough for a cable channel that is in the uper 50's of most cable dials to afford.

What's annoying is that good sci-fi doesn't NEED to cost a lot... Star Trek and Doctor Who, while looking extremely cheap, are two of the most popular and respected tv shows ever made. I mean crap, look at the scenes with the Master in the Keeper of Traken http://youtube.com/watch?v=GcTlv2qDbeU nice and creepy, and it doesn't matter how cheap the makeup and clothing is... the actor makes it work. I still find the bit where he gets his new body at the end to be incredibly creepy, and you can do better special effects on a home PC.

It's the execution that's key to making cheap shows work, but unfortunately low-budgets are almost always synonymous with low-effort. They just don't care enough to really try.

 

[ViRGE]

Originally posted by: Kadarin
Well, the new Flash Gordon on scifi channel is utter crap... (not that I expected anything different)

I second the motion. The only redeeming quality are the looks of the female cast members, and that really isn't a positive thing when the season is going to drag on for 20 episodes.