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santz

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Originally posted by: Leros
Why do people pay for $60,000 for a Lexus when a Ford will do the same for $30,000?

bad analogy, lexus is better made, and is from toyota so it lasts longer, luxurious, latest technology, and cheaper to maintain overall. The fact that it looks good is an added side benefit.

Mac only looks good, is not any better made, not luxurious, difficult to adapt, lower specs, and pretty much same to maintain over all. although i agree it does look better wheny you buy a laptop. but thats it.

What finally matters is whats under the hood. you do not buy a machine to put it in a art gallery, you buy it to use it.
 

postmortemIA

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AppleMan:

So there's Office for Mac..are you using it...?
PCs can run OSX... they are just artificially forbidden to run, and that doesn't work well ( RIAA, piracy, etc to name a few). It is software's industry way of making money: limit something that is widely available.

I did use OSX because I had to, I can't say it is any better than any other OS, and I wouldn't pay for use it. Hell, I'll pay to not use it, its lack of ergonomics would drive me nuts. All that hype and still nothing.

So many PC users that barely know how to use PC, and Apple can't make them switch with all those advertisements, looks, and what not. Apple must be really bad.
 

ForumMaster

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from a hardware, perspective, i don't know what that guy is smoking. but if he did pay legally for all that software, it's definently worth it.
 

postmortemIA

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If he paid for all that software, then he must be switching to PC. Otherwise he would still need them.
 

Fenixgoon

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Originally posted by: AmigaMan
Originally posted by: Fenixgoon
tell that to the corporate CEO's using PCs who make more in a year than you'll ever see ;)

apple has all these lofty ideals about what computing should be, fine. but at the end of the day, 99% of the world needs a BUSINESS MACHINE, not some pretty, improve your self esteem computer. not to mention, i dont need some punkass telling me how great apples are with his smug "apples rule, PCs drool" attitude in which, 90% of the time, his comparisons are invalid.

So the corporate CEO who uses a PC really is using that PC for more than the basic word doc? No, silly goon, the people who really use their machines are NOT the CEO's. And I use my MBP just fine as a developer in a business environment. I can do everything the linux guys can do (I should know since I used one for several years) and everything the Windows guys can throw at me.

Sure the marketing drones at Apple piss you off. So what? You gonna let a stupid ad get your panties in a wad? My MacBookPro didn't do anything for my self esteem BTW, I'm doing pretty good on my own.

And exactly which comparisons are invalid?

Straight from Apple (www.apple.com/getamac)

1) How much time have you spent troubleshooting your PC? Imagine a computer designed by people who hate to waste time as much as you do. Where all the hardware and software just works, and works well together. Get a Mac and get your life back.

if you're a retard and intend to put a floppy disk in your cd drive, as some people are stupid enough to do (someone DID post that, happened at their work), of course your computer wont work.

3) You won?t want to hide your Mac in a corner of the den. You?ll want it front and center in your life. The Apple style shows in every detail, from its sculpted surfaces to its gorgeous Mac OS X graphics.

By making your own computer, you have an infinite selection of cases, monitors, etc. Full customization. Apple - you're limited to what.... 5 models? (black/white MPB, 1 notebook style, 1 imac style, and 1 tower style , am i missing anything?). OSX is pretty? ok i guess, i really dont care either way as long as my stuff gets done.

6) Intel Core Duo processors put you on the cutting edge. In fact, a Mac with an Intel chip is so fast it surprises even longtime Windows pundits, who keep running benchmarks again and again. Results? Fast. Fast. Yup, still fast.

macs have generally been slower UNTIL they used intel's new Core CPUs. Check out Anandtech's OSX Server benchmarks. Just by switching from OSX to a Linux distro, the G5 server performance (generally) increases by twice or more. yup, still slow.

13) Just plug in your stuff. A Mac includes USB drivers for mass storage, digital cameras, input devices, iPod, and more. It can see Bluetooth cell phones and headsets, as well as FireWire cameras. No rebooting.

everyone needs drivers, regardless of the platform. yes, if i plug in a camera it will work just fine, but by not having the proper drivers/software, i probably wont get the best possible use out of it. USB mass storage? input devices? please, at least give an example that actually reinforces the statement - plug and play means just that.

14) Other computers include software, it?s true. But once you start using that software, you find that you?re hobbled in some way or another. Software included with the Mac, on the other hand, is critically acclaimed as best in class.

PC's dont get unified packages as they have independent retailers. Apple enjoys this advantage by being both MFR and software dev. if MS were to package something with windows, of course, the world would scream bloody murder.

edit: the ones i didnt address, eh... i know there's comparable pc software/features, and yeah, you'll get at least 1 of the 114,000 viruses if you dont do basic maintenance (getting AV software, many of which are free). it's like driving a car, you cant expect it to run 100% if you dont take preventive maintenance, and that goes for both PC and Mac
 

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Sorry if you all don't get it.

The engineer in India who will have your job 5 years from now won't be using a Mac either.

I've done corporate consulting for a long time and have dealt with pretty much every single platform in every single context along with being an apple to PC convert in the highly Mac centric graphics industry. By far and away my experience with Apple users are they are the most obstinate, technically illiterate, myopic, think multimedia is the highest form of technology, and form their opinions from a single web-site; Apple.com.

Microsoft's commercials cater to business professionals trying to solve complex productivity tasks. Apple's commercials cater to people too stupid to figure out Windows XP and think PC's rather than software catch virus's. Even though the former tends to allienate home users, at least you aren't being treated like a moron.

Yeah, thats really cool you can make a cheezy movie on a Mac with built in software Microsoft isn't allowed to include because they'll be sued if they did. I'll choose the hardware I want to run, the OS I want to run, applications I want to run, and put my computer under the desk and not on top of it where it belongs. Around here in the Midwest Apple users are hardly chic go-getters, and owning an Apple won't get you laid.

 

spikespiegal

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My MacBookPro runs every OS you listed and OSX (which you CAN'T run). So what's your point? Oh wait, you don't have one.

My $700 desktop homebuilt PC will do anything your stupid MacBook will do, it will last longer, and I can upgrade it at a whim. The fact I can't run OSX (legally on it) is your problem, not mine. I've built dual core servers for small business for the price of your laptop.

I've run into a LOT of Mac portables, and it's funny I never see anybody doing anything serious on them. It's usually the dude hanging out at Starbucks who looks like 'Powder'.

 

LordMorpheus

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Originally posted by: randomlinh
Originally posted by: iamaelephant
Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad
Originally posted by: illusion88
besides
Alot of us are gamers. And 98% of all games are for pc only. Of the remaining 2%, 99% of those are for both operating systems.

has there ever been a mac only game?

Well according to those Mac spoof commercials, Bungee used ot make games exclusively for Mac. I don't know how much truth there is to that.

they had a couple of games that were mac only i think. but then eventually ported over. halo was suppose to be big for apple...

Lots of the old Lucas Arts adventure games were mac only, I think, like Full Throttle. I loved that game.
 

spikespiegal

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6) Intel Core Duo processors put you on the cutting edge. In fact, a Mac with an Intel chip is so fast it surprises even longtime Windows pundits, who keep running benchmarks again and again. Results? Fast. Fast. Yup, still fast.

According to the digital imaging forums I hang out it Photoshop running on XP on $1000 Core 2 Duo rigs are absolutley slaughtering Mac Pros and iMacs, and even Apple users are complaining. This is the one of the typical differences between the reality distortion field produced by Apple and their own user base.

macs have generally been slower UNTIL they used intel's new Core CPUs. Check out Anandtech's OSX Server benchmarks. Just by switching from OSX to a Linux distro, the G5 server performance (generally) increases by twice or more. yup, still slow.

Which makes you realize how idiotic Appler users are for calling Intel inferiour to Motorola for a decade, then running over to Intel to have the priveledge of using apps with Rosetta because their own hardware is garbage. The G3 was a dog, the G4 is a dog, and the G5 isn't usefully more other then rendering crystal balls and weather patterns with Altivec.

Best way to shut up an Apple user is ask them to google the top 10 web hosts or application hosts in their area, then note how many are running OSX. If it's so much better than Windows as a server, then you'd better be able to show me a major corporation or web service running it.

The security issue is just more Mac propoganda. If Windows users learned to log on without local admin rights, Apple wouldn't be able to write propoganda about Trojans and Spyware.

 

iamwiz82

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Originally posted by: AmigaMan
Originally posted by: postmortemIA
Originally posted by: AmigaMan
love my MacBookPro and it was well worth the $2700 I paid for it. I could have spent the same amount and gotten a Thinkpad T60p, but that's really the only machine that is equal to the MBP in quality and performance. You all can keep your ghetto-fab Acer's and Dell's. OS X is a great OS and the machine has been a delight to use. Sorry if you all don't get it.

No I don't get it...how exactly is it worth $2.7K, well Asus makes them (among other PC OEMs probably) and even Asus is much cheaper!

Is it OSX that costs as much as win XP? no
Is it graphics that are same? no
Perhaps it is something that is again same as on PC....

style, customer service (iamwiz82's case is rare), quality, and the ability to run OSX. The Acer and Asus ones just can't compete with Apple on those points. Look at the price of the Thinkpad T60p, it's just as expensive as the MacBook Pro and has roughly the same feature-set, yet I don't hear you complaining about them. You get what you pay for, it's as simple as that.

I really want to continue to like Macs, but the Macbook has really soured me. It's pretty obvious that Apple pushed them out way too fast. I could kick myself for buying a brand new model the first day it came out :p

Unfortunately my customer service issue is the big one. Since the store is the only one within ~50 miles of me, they HAVE to be good.
 

chcarnage

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Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad
Originally posted by: illusion88
besides
Alot of us are gamers. And 98% of all games are for pc only. Of the remaining 2%, 99% of those are for both operating systems.

has there ever been a mac only game?

Gaming hasn't been a strong point for the Mac for a long time... No DirectX, everything has to be OpenGL. However there were a few games that first were released for Mac (Bungie's Marathon 2 and Marathon Infinity, SimTower and its sequel Yoot's Tower) or exlusively for the Mac, like the first Marathon. Nowadays only Pangea Software produces exclusively for the Mac, as far as I know, but there is a vital shareware scene with companies that predominantly sell Mac games (Ambrosia and Freeverse are the most known, I think).

Originally posted by: Leros
I'm all for apple and I think their products are great. But don't forget the exploding MacBooks, the burning power connectors, the mooing CPU fan, the overheating (burning people's laps), etc.

Macs aren't perfect and I think the more popular they become, the lower the quality will be.

I recieve the impression that quality problems recieve much more attention now than a few years ago. Seriously, there always were problems every now and then but with an increased user base (or the media knowing Apple as the "iPod company", maybe), they are reported more.

Originally posted by: iamwiz82

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Wow, that was a bad experience. I've only had good experiences with customer support so far. Apple exchanged my iBook after some logic board (motherboard) failures with a better one and the employees/call center persons were polite. The new battery from the Sony battery exchange program was delivered after less than two weeks instead of the expected 6-8.

It's also a standard procedure to replace or reformat HDDs during repairs and you should've been asked to backup your data. In case you should need to give one of your Macs away for repairing, I recommend Carbon Copy Cloner to back up the OS, so you won't have to re-install everything.

Originally posted by: GundamSonicZeroX
I don't like Macs because I have had a terrible experience with them every time I used one. I guess I truly hated Apple when they came out with the iPod. I also, think that they're marketing team is fulll of jokers (c'mon, even my grandma knows that those commercials are exagerated/far from the truth) and it's pathetic that MS owns (please correct me if I'm wrong) %40 percent of Apple. They're main competitor owns %40 percent of them WTF!? And it's funny that every Mac I've used has nothing but Microsoft programs on them. Maybe, I love the penguin so much, that I'm oblivious to the decency of Macs. Anyway, to each their own just so long that they don't try to force their own on anyone else.
Okay, I'll give them these two things: 1. The Apple 2 was a great machine :D and they're cases are well made and pretty.

Wow your attitude is so 1997 :p . Thats when Microsoft invested in Apple shares without a vote and Microsoft sold them a few years later. Also I'm glad to say that my two Macs are Microsoft-free zones, so it's possible and I don't feel like I miss something.

Originally posted by: Fenixgoon
Straight from Apple (www.apple.com/getamac)

1) How much time have you spent troubleshooting your PC? Imagine a computer designed by people who hate to waste time as much as you do. Where all the hardware and software just works, and works well together. Get a Mac and get your life back.

if you're a retard and intend to put a floppy disk in your cd drive, as some people are stupid enough to do (someone DID post that, happened at their work), of course your computer wont work.

That's obviously directed at driver problems or similar Windows-specific instabilities. The point is that I've read on AT that the first thing you should do after buying a Dell is to re-install Windows to get rid of the pre-installed OEM crap, meanwhile the bundled OS X software is actually useful.

3) You won?t want to hide your Mac in a corner of the den. You?ll want it front and center in your life. The Apple style shows in every detail, from its sculpted surfaces to its gorgeous Mac OS X graphics.

By making your own computer, you have an infinite selection of cases, monitors, etc. Full customization. Apple - you're limited to what.... 5 models? (black/white MPB, 1 notebook style, 1 imac style, and 1 tower style , am i missing anything?). OSX is pretty? ok i guess, i really dont care either way as long as my stuff gets done.

You left out the Mac Mini but seriously, is it Apple's fault that GUI looks isn't your priority? It's a fact that the GUI gets few negative critics and the cases even less, even if there is only half a dozen of them at a given time.

6) Intel Core Duo processors put you on the cutting edge. In fact, a Mac with an Intel chip is so fast it surprises even longtime Windows pundits, who keep running benchmarks again and again. Results? Fast. Fast. Yup, still fast.

macs have generally been slower UNTIL they used intel's new Core CPUs. Check out Anandtech's OSX Server benchmarks. Just by switching from OSX to a Linux distro, the G5 server performance (generally) increases by twice or more. yup, still slow.

The G3 actually was a competitive CPU. The later G4s and even more the last G5s... I'd prefer not to talk about them ;)

But it's funny that you answered 3) with a custom built PC, but you can't build one with the latest and greatest Intel CPUs because Intel first delivers them to the Tier 1 manufactors, than to other bulk purchasers and months later to the end customer. I just want to point out that even the PC universe isn't the boundless wonderland, you have to set priorities there, too.

13) Just plug in your stuff. A Mac includes USB drivers for mass storage, digital cameras, input devices, iPod, and more. It can see Bluetooth cell phones and headsets, as well as FireWire cameras. No rebooting.

everyone needs drivers, regardless of the platform. yes, if i plug in a camera it will work just fine, but by not having the proper drivers/software, i probably wont get the best possible use out of it. USB mass storage? input devices? please, at least give an example that actually reinforces the statement - plug and play means just that.

Apple's point is that hundreds of megabytes of drivers are pre-installed or delivered with the OS. And it's not just basic functionality but Apple tries to give its best and the standard applications are compatible with each other, so you can p.e. transfer your appointments from iCal to iSynch and your phone. Or import your photos to iPhoto and generate a web gallery or order a customised Photo Album online five minutes later.

Input devices for Macs are by definition hot pluggable because Apple dropped it's PS\2 equivalent, non-hot pluggable interface around 1999.

Even printers are hot pluggable if they make use of the zero-conf Rendezvous/Bonjour protocol.

14) Other computers include software, it?s true. But once you start using that software, you find that you?re hobbled in some way or another. Software included with the Mac, on the other hand, is critically acclaimed as best in class.

PC's dont get unified packages as they have independent retailers. Apple enjoys this advantage by being both MFR and software dev. if MS were to package something with windows, of course, the world would scream bloody murder.

Well you're free to name at least one manufactor who bundles actually useful software with Windows.

Microsoft is free to p.e. bundle an equivalent of iCal but it looks like they want to make some extra bucks with Office Entourage. Also Microsoft already bundles Movie Maker and nobody complained. The software probably is average because it hasn't got the same attention like iMovie, I don't know...

Originally posted by: spikespiegal
6) Intel Core Duo processors put you on the cutting edge. In fact, a Mac with an Intel chip is so fast it surprises even longtime Windows pundits, who keep running benchmarks again and again. Results? Fast. Fast. Yup, still fast.

According to the digital imaging forums I hang out it Photoshop running on XP on $1000 Core 2 Duo rigs are absolutley slaughtering Mac Pros and iMacs, and even Apple users are complaining. This is the one of the typical differences between the reality distortion field produced by Apple and their own user base.

Modern Macs can only run Photoshop in the Rosetta environment or on Windows, blame Macrobe.

The security issue is just more Mac propoganda. If Windows users learned to log on without local admin rights, Apple wouldn't be able to write propoganda about Trojans and Spyware.

If, if... Join the reality!

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Now, was I mildly flaming? :D
 

AmigaMan

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Boy oh boy where to start...I'll take ol' SpikeTroll first...

The engineer in India who will have your job 5 years from now won't be using a Mac either.
people have been saying that for a while, yet we have such a hard time finding quality developers. I feel pretty comfortable.

I've done corporate consulting for a long time and have dealt with pretty much every single platform in every single context along with being an apple to PC convert in the highly Mac centric graphics industry. By far and away my experience with Apple users are they are the most obstinate, technically illiterate, myopic, think multimedia is the highest form of technology, and form their opinions from a single web-site; Apple.com.

Microsoft's commercials cater to business professionals trying to solve complex productivity tasks. Apple's commercials cater to people too stupid to figure out Windows XP and think PC's rather than software catch virus's. Even though the former tends to allienate home users, at least you aren't being treated like a moron.
So you're basing all of your opinions on the respective marketing departments of Apple and Microsoft? Are you an idiot? Do you not know how to form your own opinions? Apple makes commercials that serve their target market. It doesn't mean their machines aren't useful for other areas. I find OSX a great development environment, much better than Windows and more user-friendly than Linux. I don't dislike either, but I feel OSX is better because I've used all of them. Why the anger and hate towards people who use Macs? Just because you had a run-in with an idiot who happened to use a Mac does that mean we're all the same? I've run into complete idiots who ran Windows who couldn't tell a mouse from a keyboard. Should I judge you by that idiot? Of course not, why are you being so obstinate?

My $700 desktop homebuilt PC will do anything your stupid MacBook will do, it will last longer, and I can upgrade it at a whim. The fact I can't run OSX (legally on it) is your problem, not mine. I've built dual core servers for small business for the price of your laptop.
Ok, compare DESKTOPS to DESKTOPS and LAPTOPS to LAPTOPS. Surely you know the difference. Find me a laptop that you "can upgrade at a whim". Why all the hate against the MacBook? It didn't do anything to you. It's a $1200 laptop, which is pretty well priced for what you get. Sure, you can get an el-cheapo Dell or Acer for just under $1000 that runs XP and plays your games and you can be happy. It's only $200 for goodness sakes!?!?!? Is $200 that much to get your panties in a wad?

I've run into a LOT of Mac portables, and it's funny I never see anybody doing anything serious on them. It's usually the dude hanging out at Starbucks who looks like 'Powder'.
So I take it when you're on your desktop or laptop your ALWAYS doing something serious on it? You know, maybe the dude hanging out at starbucks is surfing the web because he can. Is there something wrong with that? Do I ALWAYS have to be doing something productive when I'm on my laptop? Of course not, I'd not be here if I were. But I do productive things on my MacBookPro and I did productive things on my Inspiron 9200, on my HP NC8000, and on my Latitude 8200. To be honest, I'm MORE productive on my MacBookPro than on any of the other ones, but that has to do with the OS than the laptop. My NC8000 cost my previous employer <$3000, why aren't you complaining about the cost of HP's? Why single out Macs?
 

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Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad
Originally posted by: illusion88
besides
Alot of us are gamers. And 98% of all games are for pc only. Of the remaining 2%, 99% of those are for both operating systems.

has there ever been a mac only game?

That one apple puzzle game!
 

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Every OS has its place and function, I'm naturally more productive in OSX than Windows simply because my computer background is mostly UNIX based.. I run pretty much every flavor of operating system out there in some fashion and I think they're all stronger than one another at specific tasks.

To flat out hate a specific product or operating system is foolish in my opinion, use the right tool for the right job.
 

AmigaMan

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According to the digital imaging forums I hang out it Photoshop running on XP on $1000 Core 2 Duo rigs are absolutley slaughtering Mac Pros and iMacs, and even Apple users are complaining. This is the one of the typical differences between the reality distortion field produced by Apple and their own user base.
As has been mentioned before, Adobe hasn't converted Photoshop to be a Universal Binary, I fail to see how this is Apple's fault.

Best way to shut up an Apple user is ask them to google the top 10 web hosts or application hosts in their area, then note how many are running OSX. If it's so much better than Windows as a server, then you'd better be able to show me a major corporation or web service running it.
They're mostly running Apache (more than IIS). Apache is pretty much OS agnostic, so I fail to see your point. If you're wondering why more people aren't running XServe's then ok I give you that. It's just easier and cheaper to get a well configured Linux server up and running than an OSX Server based XServe running. Plus you have tons more people who can administer that Linux box than the OSX Server box. Same goes for a Windows Server based box (albeit it's more expensive than a Linux box due to licensing and support). But I don't see why this would shut me up...

The security issue is just more Mac propoganda. If Windows users learned to log on without local admin rights, Apple wouldn't be able to write propoganda about Trojans and Spyware.
Propaganda? Are you serious? I really can't respond to this since it's so obviously retarded I wouldn't know where to start. I agree, Windows users should run as admin, but propaganda?!?!?!
 

AmigaMan

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Originally posted by: Platypus
Every OS has its place and function, I'm naturally more productive in OSX than Windows simply because my computer background is mostly UNIX based.. I run pretty much every flavor of operating system out there in some fashion and I think they're all stronger than one another at specific tasks.

To flat out hate a specific product or operating system is foolish in my opinion, use the right tool for the right job.

DING DING DING! I really don't see why people hate Apple so much. I run OSX on my MacBookPro, Ubuntu and XP on my Inspiron 9200, CentOS on another desktop, and XP Pro on a Dell Poweredge server at home.

I guess it's all the immature kids out there that have nothing better to do. I used to be the same way, look at my user name. It's kind of funny that as an Amiga user I used to make fun of the Apple IIgs and Mac users 15 years ago. Sigh, I'm getting too old for this ;)
 

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Originally posted by: chcarnage

Originally posted by: GundamSonicZeroX
I don't like Macs because I have had a terrible experience with them every time I used one. I guess I truly hated Apple when they came out with the iPod. I also, think that they're marketing team is fulll of jokers (c'mon, even my grandma knows that those commercials are exagerated/far from the truth) and it's pathetic that MS owns (please correct me if I'm wrong) %40 percent of Apple. They're main competitor owns %40 percent of them WTF!? And it's funny that every Mac I've used has nothing but Microsoft programs on them. Maybe, I love the penguin so much, that I'm oblivious to the decency of Macs. Anyway, to each their own just so long that they don't try to force their own on anyone else.
Okay, I'll give them these two things: 1. The Apple 2 was a great machine :D and they're cases are well made and pretty.

Wow your attitude is so 1997 :p . Thats when Microsoft invested in Apple shares without a vote and Microsoft sold them a few years later. Also I'm glad to say that my two Macs are Microsoft-free zones, so it's possible and I don't feel like I miss something.
Oh, well, Matt (the guy who taught me almost everything I know about PCs) told me about the whole "Microsoft owns %40 of Apple" thing. I'll have to ask him if he knows about this, or if he just didn't tell me. And i'm glad to hear that your Macs are MS-free zones :D
I still think that Macs are (this just is my opinion) not as good as Linux PCs based on my experience with them. That might change when my big sis gets her Mac for college (She's getting a real kickass one supposedly) and I might have a good experience with it. And unlike some people, I don't think that Mac users are gay, stupid, or <whatever you want to put here>, I just think that they haven't had a bad experience with Macs, or they just don't know much about/like Linux. </rant>

 

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I persoanlly switched to OS X about 2-3 months ago and have not really looked back. However, I will be going back to a dualboot with windows now taht some new Boot Camp Drivers have been released. Apple has included full trackpad support (2 finger right clicking, and 2 finger scrolling).

The reason I prefer macs and os x is the intuitiveness of it all. My favorite expression is this one: In windows, I was always surprised when something that I think will work actually does. In OS X, I am surprised when it doesn't.

When I got my macbook in August, I had researched and looked around, read different reviews and asked different people's opinions. At that size screen, with the hard drive size, and the capabilities of the system (especially proc speed, most others at this size at that time were 1.66 Core Duos at best) and it turns out that the MacBook was something like $200 cheaper at least. Now the landscape has changed since then, but I couldn't be happier with my purchase, and I have already decided that my next desktop upgrade will be an imac.

Further personally, I am not too terribly fond of linux. I like how once you get it up and running (which if you are installing it as the sole OS goes pretty easy) almost everything is there already. You have better than Windows basic graphics support. The Ethernet devices are installed, the browser is there, Open Office, some games, a fullfeatured email client, and a powerful unix backbone that the 'average' (and I dont mean average linux user, i mean joe schmo) user will never use.

My last few experiences with Liunx have not been too terribly pleasant. I have had display issues (pico the xorg.conf file and edit it, but still have the wrong resolutions) or not identifying my graphics card, or installing the drivers correctly. It also seemed that the last time I used Dapper ubuntu everything i installed had to be downloaded, moved, compiled, edited, renamed, and installed via terminal. I don't mind a CLI, but when you are used to simply double-clicking a file and then telling it where to install, this other way of doing it seemed simply archaic and asinine.

OS X may not be for you, Windows and LInux are not for me as much. I am still adpating to OS X and there are things that were significantly easier to do in windows... but the number of things that are easier to do in OS X outweigh those.