Why lefties fear strong women like Liz Cheney

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: shira

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
I say over and over that the proper way to address folk like Palin is on the issues, but I am still insane and so I can assure you I don't know the answer to this.

No one can address Palin on the issues, because she doesn't discuss the issues. She discusses fabricated non-issues.

Attempting to address issues with the Palin crowd would be like trying to communicate with a group of schizophrenics who want solutions NOW, dammit, to the hordes of beetles they see crawling all over the walls.

Fortunately, there aren't very many Palins out there.

You just addressed her on the issues.

 

[Ausm]

Originally posted by: Harvey

Originally posted by: PJABBER

You guys never seem to follow international politics that closely. I, on the other hand (...have to close my office door in making this post so that my most attractive Latina wife does not smack me upside my head!) have the advantage of being a worldly man about town.

I believe it is a dead even toss up between Yulia Tymoshenko (Ukraine) and Alina Kabaeva (Russia) for most attractive female politician.

Mara Rosaria Carfagna (Italy) won the polling, so I won't argue if you prefer to go with a Southern European in this case. Ruby Dhalla would be my runner up.

You partisan lefties can stick with Hillary. I dare you. :laugh:

SPIKE - The Top 10 Sexiest Female Politicians in the World

All of which has what to do with your thankfully EX-Traitor In Chief's butt freaking ugly right wingnut daughter? I wouldn't hit her with her GF's dildo... or yours. :laugh:

I might hit on da bitch if I was drunk enough to make any sense out of Pjabber's posts

 

[shira]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Originally posted by: shira

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
I say over and over that the proper way to address folk like Palin is on the issues, but I am still insane and so I can assure you I don't know the answer to this.

No one can address Palin on the issues, because she doesn't discuss the issues. She discusses fabricated non-issues.

Attempting to address issues with the Palin crowd would be like trying to communicate with a group of schizophrenics who want solutions NOW, dammit, to the hordes of beetles they see crawling all over the walls.

Fortunately, there aren't very many Palins out there.

You just addressed her on the issues.

Be careful. You may be catching that beetle thing.

 

[Lemon law]

I do not think rational people are scared of someone like Lin Cheney, even though the emotions they cause can mimic fear. Someone like Lin Cheney may be strong and forceful public speaker, but anyone listing to anyone else needs to come pre armed with a certain degree of rational skepticism.

After going through eight years of GWB&co governance, anytime a speaker advocates more of the same, we are left with a who do we believe, the strong and forceful speaker or our own lying eyes. If nothing else, this has been the worst recent GOP mistake, even when it was long past time to realize the underlying theories these people operated under were not working and having the opposite of a desirable outcome, they kept clinging to their own disproved theories. And by cling to the theories we only got more bad governance.

And now when job one is to repair the mistakes of the recent past, the GOP is not lacking in strong and forceful wormtongue speakers of either sex that paralyze the repair process.
And when the rational listen to speakers like Lin Cheney, her dad Dick, Palin, Limbaugh, and that similar bunch, we fear for where this nation is heading if people actually think these people are credible. But appalled is the better word for the emotions these people inspire.

 

[jonks]

Originally posted by: BoberFett

Originally posted by: jonks
Yeah...it couldn't be his positions reps disagree with or the fact that he is an echochamber of Pelosi or anything. No, we "fear" him because he's, in your estimation, black. So if reps disagree with a black person on the left, they must hate blacks.

It cuts both ways.

As long as people who disagree with Obama are racists, people who disagree with women are misogynists.

That's a really idiotic comparison for many reasons, not the least of which is the signage we saw during the tea parties, the people interviewed during the primaries who admitted not trusting black people, the repeated GOP messups in newsletters/emails featuring racist imagery and 'humor', the fact that the GOP has less than 1% black members, etc, etc.

I voted for Hillary (along with half my party) and yet most dems can't stand Palin. Her sex is unrelated to any position of hers which I oppose.

Is there some scatering of dems out there who didn't vote for Hillary and don't like Palin (or any woman in power) because they are cromagnon throwbacks? Sure, but I bet you're more likely to find such people among the GOP with its "conservative" and "family" values who prefer women staying home and raising kids, just look at the number of GOP women elected officials compared to dems. The most fervent palin haters are women who were insulted by her token nomination.

 

[Lemon law]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
I think PJ has a point. I think the left reacts insanely to right winged women.

I know that people react insanely because they ARE insane. So the question is 'what is the nature of the insanity?'.

I know that insanity is not the proper response to right winged women, but what else can I say?

How can you speak of a disease if you have it and can't find a cure?

I say over and over that the proper way to address folk like Palin is on the issues, but I am still insane and so I can assure you I don't know the answer to this.

This is, however, just a subset of what it is to be insane.



And make sure Boberfett reads this because he's convinced I know everything.

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I think Moonbeam misses the point, the proper way to address the insanity question is to compare their behavior to Lemmings, who cheerfully jump off cliffs because the the Lemming in front of them did it first.

When you are in the midst of a herd of GOP Lemmings, its hard to have that perspective of where you have been and where you are going. Its not per say insanity, its myopia of the 20% of the population GOP.

The problem comes when the cliff bottom is reached, if we follow them we will go splat on the rocks below and they will land on piles of cushioned lobbying money.

 

[Harvey]

Originally posted by: PJABBER

Originally posted by: Harvey

All of which has what to do with your thankfully EX-Vice Traitor In Chief's butt freaking ugly right wingnut daughter? :laugh:

Nothing, Harvey, nothing at all. This thread has nothing to do with bush.

You're right. I fixed my previous post, per above. It has everything to do with his ugly, sh8 for brains, right wingnut daughter.

 

[PJABBER]

For all of you Palin haters out there (remember she was #4 in the polling, just behind three world class politicians and nobody knows why Hillary was even nominated, sort of like Obama's Nobel Consolation Peace Prize,) just imagine Liz Cheney being the next Republican in line for a VP candidacy in 2012. No wonder the Democrats are running down upstanding Republican women - these women are the only ones who have any shot at getting the top job!

While I'm still shooting for a Nugent/Palin ticket, I can imagine a couple of other possibilities now.

And if we actually achieve a New Obama World Order (tm) (pronounced "No! Whoah!"), it might be that we will soon be looking FAR to the East (Russia, Ukraine, China?) for the next generation of Dear Leaders.

At least the interminable speeches may offer some eye relief, should we go there.

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: Lemon law

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
I think PJ has a point. I think the left reacts insanely to right winged women.

I know that people react insanely because they ARE insane. So the question is 'what is the nature of the insanity?'.

I know that insanity is not the proper response to right winged women, but what else can I say?

How can you speak of a disease if you have it and can't find a cure?

I say over and over that the proper way to address folk like Palin is on the issues, but I am still insane and so I can assure you I don't know the answer to this.

This is, however, just a subset of what it is to be insane.



And make sure Boberfett reads this because he's convinced I know everything.

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I think Moonbeam misses the point, the proper way to address the insanity question is to compare their behavior to Lemmings, who cheerfully jump off cliffs because the the Lemming in front of them did it first.

When you are in the midst of a herd of GOP Lemmings, its hard to have that perspective of where you have been and where you are going. Its not per say insanity, its myopia of the 20% of the population GOP.

The problem comes when the cliff bottom is reached, if we follow them we will go splat on the rocks below and they will land on piles of cushioned lobbying money.

Who cheerfully jump off cliffs because the the Lemming in front of them did it first.....

But that's insane!

 

[thraashman]

I assure you that people dislike Liz Cheney far less than they dislike Sarah Palin. At least Liz Cheney doesn't come off as a blubbering idiot most of the time. People hate Palin simply because of her witlessness and her too far right of politics.

Liz Cheney ... well, I guess the main thing about her is that she proves how little Republicans care about family. She's trying to be a focal point in a party that pretty much thinks her own sister is a lesser person who should have half the rights of everyone else in this nation. Can you imagine if she became vice president under a republican president who would likely push to have a Constitutional amendment to deny marriage rights to her own flesh and blood? I can't imagine anyone who is that cold-hearted as to deny equal rights to their family being a vice-president.

 

[Harvey]

Originally posted by: PJABBER

For all of you Palin haters out there (remember she was #4 in the polling, just behind three world class politicians and nobody knows why Hillary was even nominated, sort of like Obama's Nobel Consolation Peace Prize,) just imagine Liz Cheney being the next Republican in line for a VP candidacy in 2012.

Would you bill a Palin - Cheney ticket (in either order) as Dumb and Dumber or Mean and Meaner? Or would you just switch between them?

Decisions, decisions, decisions. :roll:

No wonder the Democrats are running down upstanding Republican women - these women are the only ones who have any shot at getting the top job!

You haven't named any upstanding Republican women, just a couple of jill-asses who happen to have double X chromosomes. :thumbsdown:

 

[PJABBER]

Originally posted by: Harvey

Originally posted by: PJABBER

For all of you Palin haters out there (remember she was #4 in the polling, just behind three world class politicians and nobody knows why Hillary was even nominated, sort of like Obama's Nobel Consolation Peace Prize,) just imagine Liz Cheney being the next Republican in line for a VP candidacy in 2012.

Would you bill a Palin - Cheney ticket (in either order) as Dumb and Dumber or Mean and Meaner? Or would you just switch between them?

Decisions, decisions, decisions. :roll:

No wonder the Democrats are running down upstanding Republican women - these women are the only ones who have any shot at getting the top job!

You haven't named any upstanding Republican women, just a couple of jill-asses who happen to have double X chromosomes. :thumbsdown:

Let me ask you straight up, Harvey - would you vote for the Russian or the Ukrainian come the next election? Or are you going to stick with Hillary?

:laugh:

 

[Mr. Lennon]

Originally posted by: Carmen813
I don't fear strong women, just insane ones.

Yup :laugh:

It's funny how the right assume that the left "fear" these women because they are strong and beautiful. They posses neither trait.

The left fear them because the thought of any of these idiotic women having a position of high power is just way too fucking scary.