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Why isn't this a hate crime?

I'm confused. I can't watch the video (at school). What exactly happend? The txt doesn't really say much.

Why was she beating up that girl? What did that girl do?
 
Originally posted by: Aimster
I'm confused. I can't watch the video (at school). What exactly happend? The txt doesn't really say much.

Why was she beating up that girl? What did that girl do?
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She probably said a few word after the other girls were teasing her. But she was assaulted for being white.
 
Originally posted by: spidey07
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories...ional/main563855.shtml

I'm confused. Simple assault?

I think not. This was an act of pure bigotry and the "mother" needs to get about 10-20 for attempted murder. More because it was a hate crime.

-edit- Two girls assault another girl. Bus driver calls mother. Mother joins in the beating strangling poor child.
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Naaaw, where have you've been. If it was a white Mother that did what this one did she'd still be in Jail now facing attempted Murder charge but Black, ha.

It's only a "Hate" crime if it's White on Black, not the other way around.


 
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: spidey07
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories...ional/main563855.shtml

I'm confused. Simple assault?

I think not. This was an act of pure bigotry and the "mother" needs to get about 10-20 for attempted murder. More because it was a hate crime.

-edit- Two girls assault another girl. Bus driver calls mother. Mother joins in the beating strangling poor child.
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Naaaw, where have you've been. If it was a white Mother that did what this one did she'd still be in Jail now facing attempted Murder charge but Black, ha.

It's only a "Hate" crime if it's White on Black, not the other way around.
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<---remembers a certain southpark cartoon.
🙂

 
Man they should lock those monekeys in a cage and ship them to the circus.

That racist remark is not acceptable at Anandtech. Find yourself another forum.
 
that mother should not get off with a simple mis-demeanor, she should be arrested for assault. as for the hate crime, i haveto know what the circumstances were as to how the fight started

also, the girls should be charged with at the very least battery, and the mother should be charged as an accomplice for not pulling her daughters off the girl
 
Originally posted by: fluorescenthat
Man they should lock those monekeys in a cage and ship them to the circus.

That racist remark is not acceptable at Anandtech. Find yourself another forum.
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Well, looks like fluorescenthat had a short career at PN
 
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: spidey07
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories...ional/main563855.shtml

I'm confused. Simple assault?

I think not. This was an act of pure bigotry and the "mother" needs to get about 10-20 for attempted murder. More because it was a hate crime.

-edit- Two girls assault another girl. Bus driver calls mother. Mother joins in the beating strangling poor child.
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Naaaw, where have you've been. If it was a white Mother that did what this one did she'd still be in Jail now facing attempted Murder charge but Black, ha.

It's only a "Hate" crime if it's White on Black, not the other way around.
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Get your friends and neighbors together and pressure the US Justice dept to charge the mother with a federal crime.

 
first off, the whole hate crime thing is a bs, a crime is a crime, regardless of the skin color of the victim or offender... she should be charged the same as anyone else would be in the same cercumstance... and the chick that got beat should go to the ladys house and wreck lots of stuff in the cover of night.
 
Originally posted by: AntiNazi
first off, the whole hate crime thing is a bs, a crime is a crime, regardless of the skin color of the victim or offender... she should be charged the same as anyone else would be in the same cercumstance... and the chick that got beat should go to the ladys house and wreck lots of stuff in the cover of night.
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The hate crime law(s) are federal. This is why I recommended that the people who are upset about this contact the US Justice Dept. The hate crime law(s) were written because during the 1960's Afro-Americans were being murdered and bombed and the local judicial systems were not prosecuting or convicting people who were suspected of committing the crimes.
 
Originally posted by: spidey07
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories...ional/main563855.shtml

I'm confused. Simple assault?

I think not. This was an act of pure bigotry and the "mother" needs to get about 10-20 for attempted murder. More because it was a hate crime.
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I don't think this assault can easily be categorized as a hate crime. If that mother had gone looking for a white person, ANY white person, to bash up, if her choice of victim was based solely on skin color (and maybe opportunity) then yes, it would fit the description of a hate crime. To me, what happened here looked more like a brawl that got out of hand (with aggravating racial elements). It's not at all clear that race was the primary motivating factor. How can you know or prove that race was the motivating factor? Would that mother have attacked a black kid (that was attacking her daughter)?

 
The article doens't actually make it clear who started calling names first, or if it was one-way, but I would tend to think that the daughter might be guilty of a racially-motivated crime, while proving that for the mother would be very difficult; you might have to conclude (generously) that she was motivated only by her daughter's involvement. That being said, I too have a feeling that if the skin colours were reversed, the charges just might be different.

Of course statistically, I'm wrong; white people aren't charged with nearly as many crimes and get a fair bit more leeway without being charged, but my gut tells me that wouldn't be the case here.
 
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Naaaw, where have you've been. If it was a white Mother that did what this one did she'd still be in Jail now facing attempted Murder charge but Black, ha.

It's only a "Hate" crime if it's White on Black, not the other way around.
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Gasp! Dave and I actualy agree on something!?! It is cold outside, but I thought hell freezing over would be a bit colder 😉
 
Originally posted by: AntiNazi
first off, the whole hate crime thing is a bs, a crime is a crime, regardless of the skin color of the victim or offender... she should be charged the same as anyone else would be in the same cercumstance... and the chick that got beat should go to the ladys house and wreck lots of stuff in the cover of night.
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say a group of neo-nazis beat the $hit out of a jewish kid, but didn't kill him, and he was just put in the hospital for a week. you don't think they should get more time since their attack was motivated by hate??

if they got 2 or 3 years, you would be okay with that?
 
Originally posted by: KidViciou$
Originally posted by: AntiNazi
first off, the whole hate crime thing is a bs, a crime is a crime, regardless of the skin color of the victim or offender... she should be charged the same as anyone else would be in the same cercumstance... and the chick that got beat should go to the ladys house and wreck lots of stuff in the cover of night.
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say a group of neo-nazis beat the $hit out of a jewish kid, but didn't kill him, and he was just put in the hospital for a week. you don't think they should get more time since their attack was motivated by hate??

if they got 2 or 3 years, you would be okay with that?
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An attack motivated by hate? By god, man! Say it ain't so!
 
umm...i think it's pretty clear that the local DA is prosecuting the case, very few states have 'hate' crime laws, it's primarily a federal thing
 
I'd have to see the standard past whites have been deemed a "hate crime" before deciding. The only case I know about was those avowed white supremisists telling thier freinds they going "to find a n1gger tonight" , found one, then drug him 30 miles behind thier truck with a chain around his neck. That qualified. This one does'nt seem to meet that standard.
 
Originally posted by: KidViciou$
say a group of neo-nazis beat the $hit out of a jewish kid, but didn't kill him, and he was just put in the hospital for a week. you don't think they should get more time since their attack was motivated by hate??
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Why should it they? Does the getting punched hurt more or do more physical damage because the person hitting you hates you for a reason beyond your control?

Same crime, same time.
 
Originally posted by: Mookow
Originally posted by: KidViciou$
say a group of neo-nazis beat the $hit out of a jewish kid, but didn't kill him, and he was just put in the hospital for a week. you don't think they should get more time since their attack was motivated by hate??
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Why should it they? Does the getting punched hurt more or do more physical damage because the person hitting you hates you for a reason beyond your control?

Same crime, same time.
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Only it's not the same crime, because a hate crime targets a specific community as well as an individual's identity and physical body. What are the effects of a hate crime on the larger community (of blacks, gays, Muslims, Jews, whatever)? I see hate crimes as a form of terrorism, targetting a specific community (attacking a community - gay, black, Muslim, whatever - by attacking an individual.) Do the people in the targeted community become afraid to go out alone, do they limit their movements, do they become anxious and fearful? Also, I've read that people who are the direct victims of a hate crime experience more psychological trauma, and post-assault depression + low self-esteem, than people who are victims of a crime of equivalent intensity that did not involve an attack on the victim's racial, religious, or sexual identity. If this is true, does the crime not take on a more serious dimension?

 
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