why isn't there more buzz about the pre?

[BlahBlahYouToo]

got a chance to play with it and i like it a lot.
i'm a blackberry 8830 user, but have used my gf's iphone quite a bit so that's the basis for my comparison.

pros (compared to iphone):
slicker OS (able to do a lot of cool stuff with the interface)
sharper screen
better and more accurate touch sensitivity
able to leave apps open in background
access to battery
physical kb
3mp camera take good pics
smaller than iphone

cons (compared to iphone):
lag when opening apps, more if multitasking obviously
smaller screen
no virtual keyboard (awkward to flip vertically when browsing in landscape)
no video (not a big deal IMO)
thicker than iphone
feels 'cheaper' than iphone

i wasn't able to test call/voice quality.
if i didn't have a company bb, this would be the phone to get. esp. since ATT reception sucks around my area.
the storm feels like a 10 year old product compared to this and the iphone.

 

[ChAoTiCpInOy]

Because Apple made their announcement for the iPhone 3G S less than 3 days later which basically took all the momentum away. As an iPhone user I love my iPhone. But the Palm Pre does look really slick. It is a very good competitor.

 

[Wonderful Pork]

I'm very strongly considering jumping to the Pre when my iPhone 2G contract is up in August. The monthly cost itself would be almost $15 cheaper/month ($30 cheaper for a comparable AT&T plan with unlimited text which I don't currently have) and WebOS looks to be very well put together.

My problem is in the hardware build. Aesthetics aside, there are reports of problems with the screen (dead pixels, etc), the slider, heat, & really poor battery life which is understandable on a new unit, but not something I'd want to put up with for 2 years.

Coupled with the fact that I can get 3G coverage from Sprint at my house, but not AT&T may just prove to be the tipping point. On the other side, I absolutely love some of the apps I have for the iphone, namely the Kindle app.

So, we'll see how reviews pan out over the next couple weeks and go from there.

 

[gorcorps]

Because the Palm brand has been barely limping along for years now. IMO it's nothing special and I would take most BBs over it without a 2nd thought. I have an iphone right now and am also quite happy with that because of the apps and such.

 

[BlahBlahYouToo]

as an avid bb user, i disagree.
the palm pre is what the storm should've been imo.

 

[gorcorps]

Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo
as an avid bb user, i disagree.
the palm pre is what the storm should've been imo.

The storm was a BS device to try and get in on the mainstream users. BB is still seen as a business phone and they were trying to get more non-business users to jump into the BB boat. The Bold is a much better comparison IMO to the Pre and I think it's better in most ways.

 

[Muadib]

Because it's only on Sprint, that's why.
It looks like mostly current Sprint customers have tried it so far.

 

[randomlinh]

A) it's on Sprint
B) Palm is basically using us as beta testers =)

I actually switched from verizon to sprint. I can't stand blackberries, and would much rather have a physical keyboard. Despite the obvious 1.0ness of the Pre, I do love it. Battery life has drastically improved for some reason. I suspect it's chat that is draining it. It's not a multi day battery, but I was expecting that.

They need to tweak the OS to make it a bit more smooth, especially the dialer, and get the SDK out. On the physical side, the non-touchstone back is lacking, and I have found the device to get a bit too slick naked. I have a zagg shield when I get my replacement (out of the box, my camera was missing the protective lens, suppose to get a new one).

 

[Reckoner]

So far so good with the Pre. Coming from a first and second gen iphone user, the pre is a breath of fresh air. I love multitasking on this, and i'm slowly but surely getting used to the keyboard. Sprint gets a bad rep, but so far their data network is leaps and bounds better than at&t. I'm happy I switched.

 

[boomhower]

I'll likely be getting on later this summer but mainly do to lack of options more than anything else. I am a Sprint customer and will not be switching. Verizon is the only other source for 3G here but there prices are insane. I am touch screen whore but the TP2 is just to damn big so that narrows my options down, well to the Pre. (I already have a Diamond and there has been no word of the Diamond 2 coming to Sprint yet) Since I am going to have to get a new contract(current SERO user) I am going to wait until the Tour drops so my wife can get that at the same time.

 

[zerocool84]

Originally posted by: boomhower
I'll likely be getting on later this summer but mainly do to lack of options more than anything else. I am a Sprint customer and will not be switching. Verizon is the only other source for 3G here but there prices are insane. I am touch screen whore but the TP2 is just to damn big so that narrows my options down, well to the Pre. (I already have a Diamond and there has been no word of the Diamond 2 coming to Sprint yet) Since I am going to have to get a new contract(current SERO user) I am going to wait until the Tour drops so my wife can get that at the same time.

The Touch Pro 2 is really awesome. I had some time to play with it on Wednesday. It is large but for a reason. Great large screen with lots of real-estate, awesome keyboard, tons of features, it's going to be a great phone.

 

[Rottie]

Originally posted by: gorcorps

Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo
as an avid bb user, i disagree.
the palm pre is what the storm should've been imo.

The storm was a BS device to try and get in on the mainstream users. BB is still seen as a business phone and they were trying to get more non-business users to jump into the BB boat. The Bold is a much better comparison IMO to the Pre and I think it's better in most ways.

BB Bold and Curve are good for business people and BB make new Storm to wow young people away from iphone and sidekick.

 

[Rottie]

Originally posted by: randomlinh

B) Palm is basically using us as beta testers =)

You bet just because they are working on new upgrade in response to bete user's complaints.

 

[Rottie]

I havent seen new Palm Pre in real life but I am curious what about apps for Palm Pre?

 

[boomhower]

They are popping up quickly but are pretty limited in what they can do until Palm releases the SDK. It is very similar to the Apps for the Iphone when it first came out.

 

[randomlinh]

Originally posted by: Rottie

Originally posted by: randomlinh

B) Palm is basically using us as beta testers =)

You bet just because they are working on new upgrade in response to bete user's complaints.

well, they are going to do that no matter what.. they have to. Or else they'd never improve. It's just the OS, while I love it, is rough around the edges, heh.

and the SDK looks to be a late summer release, but they are opening up the early dev program soon.

 

[Cacolaco]

Originally posted by: gorcorps

Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo
as an avid bb user, i disagree.
the palm pre is what the storm should've been imo.

The storm was a BS device to try and get in on the mainstream users. BB is still seen as a business phone and they were trying to get more non-business users to jump into the BB boat. The Bold is a much better comparison IMO to the Pre and I think it's better in most ways.

The Storm was crappy on release, and I experienced lock-ups and slow performance like everyone else, but I think it desperately needs a re-review.

BB shot themselves in the foot with the poor launch firmware. 2 months ago I would have been drooling over the Pre, and was drooling over the iPhone, but I wouldn't trade in my Storm since the 4.7.0.148 firmware.

That said, in response to the OP, I thought there was an awful lot of buzz for the Pre. I think it was just overshadowed recently be Apple's timely release of the 3G s.

 

[dlock13]

Originally posted by: Cacolaco

Originally posted by: gorcorps

Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo
as an avid bb user, i disagree.
the palm pre is what the storm should've been imo.

The storm was a BS device to try and get in on the mainstream users. BB is still seen as a business phone and they were trying to get more non-business users to jump into the BB boat. The Bold is a much better comparison IMO to the Pre and I think it's better in most ways.

The Storm was crappy on release, and I experienced lock-ups and slow performance like everyone else, but I think it desperately needs a re-review.

BB shot themselves in the foot with the poor launch firmware. 2 months ago I would have been drooling over the Pre, and was drooling over the iPhone, but I wouldn't trade in my Storm since the 4.7.0.148 firmware.

That said, in response to the OP, I thought there was an awful lot of buzz for the Pre. I think it was just overshadowed recently be Apple's timely release of the 3G s.

I have the Storm as well, but I wonder why you think it's such a good phone. I just want to hear your side to it. I was thinking of getting a new phone at the end of the year even though I've had this phone for about two months already.


Also, I really wouldn't say timely release since Apple does it every year about the same exact time so it's to be expected.

 

[Koing]

Because Apple can market to the masses and Palm can not.

I don't think I've yet to see a single Pre advert on tv etc in the uk yet.

Koing

 

[randomlinh]

Originally posted by: Cacolaco

Originally posted by: gorcorps

Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo
as an avid bb user, i disagree.
the palm pre is what the storm should've been imo.

The storm was a BS device to try and get in on the mainstream users. BB is still seen as a business phone and they were trying to get more non-business users to jump into the BB boat. The Bold is a much better comparison IMO to the Pre and I think it's better in most ways.

The Storm was crappy on release, and I experienced lock-ups and slow performance like everyone else, but I think it desperately needs a re-review.

BB shot themselves in the foot with the poor launch firmware. 2 months ago I would have been drooling over the Pre, and was drooling over the iPhone, but I wouldn't trade in my Storm since the 4.7.0.148 firmware.

That said, in response to the OP, I thought there was an awful lot of buzz for the Pre. I think it was just overshadowed recently be Apple's timely release of the 3G s.

outside of the tech world.. I think there was almost NO buzz. And rightfully so, palm cannot risk the stock issue. They have some ads on TV now, but their goal is not to dethrone apple. That's silly. They just need to get into the market.

Originally posted by: Koing
Because Apple can market to the masses and Palm can not.

I don't think I've yet to see a single Pre advert on tv etc in the uk yet.

Koing

It's not even available out there is it? There were zero ads here in the US too. Well, a few would show the pre at the end of the Sprint commercials, but nothing explicitly stating it's a Palm Pre.

 

[Caballera]

Originally posted by: Wonderful Pork
I'm very strongly considering jumping to the Pre when my iPhone 2G contract is up in August. The monthly cost itself would be almost $15 cheaper/month ($30 cheaper for a comparable AT&T plan with unlimited text which I don't currently have) and WebOS looks to be very well put together.

My problem is in the hardware build. Aesthetics aside, there are reports of problems with the screen (dead pixels, etc), the slider, heat, & really poor battery life which is understandable on a new unit, but not something I'd want to put up with for 2 years.

Coupled with the fact that I can get 3G coverage from Sprint at my house, but not AT&T may just prove to be the tipping point. On the other side, I absolutely love some of the apps I have for the iphone, namely the Kindle app.

So, we'll see how reviews pan out over the next couple weeks and go from there.

Just out of curiosity, I'm a new iPhone user (and smartphone user in general) why would having 3G coverage at your house be so important? I ask cause when I'm at home I use my WiFi connection which I assumed would be must faster then 3G. I've been lucky cause on Staten Island 3G coverage has been very good for where I'm at when I'm out of the house.

 

[boomhower]

Some things are available only through the 3G network, not many but some(at least on Sprint). But in general I would tend to agree with you in that it is not that important in the grand scheme of things. But on the other hand it would also give a bit on incite into the general 3G coverage in his area, Sprint likely is better. Like it or not Sprint has better overall 3G coverage than At&T, by a long shot.

 

[Muadib]

Originally posted by: boomhower
Some things are available only through the 3G network, not many but some(at least on Sprint). But in general I would tend to agree with you in that it is not that important in the grand scheme of things. But on the other hand it would also give a bit on incite into the general 3G coverage in his area, Sprint likely is better. Like it or not Sprint has better overall 3G coverage than At&T, by a long shot.

I disagree. And so does this site.

 

[zerocool84]

Originally posted by: Muadib

Originally posted by: boomhower
Some things are available only through the 3G network, not many but some(at least on Sprint). But in general I would tend to agree with you in that it is not that important in the grand scheme of things. But on the other hand it would also give a bit on incite into the general 3G coverage in his area, Sprint likely is better. Like it or not Sprint has better overall 3G coverage than At&T, by a long shot.

I disagree. And so does this site.

Yet again, has nothing to do with AT&T and their network coverage.

 

[Muadib]

Originally posted by: zerocool84

Originally posted by: Muadib

Originally posted by: boomhower
Some things are available only through the 3G network, not many but some(at least on Sprint). But in general I would tend to agree with you in that it is not that important in the grand scheme of things. But on the other hand it would also give a bit on incite into the general 3G coverage in his area, Sprint likely is better. Like it or not Sprint has better overall 3G coverage than At&T, by a long shot.

I disagree. And so does this site.

Yet again, has nothing to do with AT&T and their network coverage.

Yeah, after thinking about it, testing over wifi would even the playing field. I still disagree that Sprint coverage is better though. They are horrible in this area for just voice calls, and since they are still losing customers like crazy, I gotta think the problem is widespread.