why is Windows so ugly?

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halfadder

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Funny, a lot of people think Mac OS X is ugly too.

Personally, I liked the oldschool Mac OS look... in 1984.

The original Mac GUI was simple and crisp and sure beat anything else on the market at the time. The new grayscale theme that came with Mac OS 8 was LONG overdue and was too little too late, IMHO. But at least it wasn't an ugly beast like the default WinXP theme.

I have mixed feeling over the Mac OS X GUI. Don't get me wrong, I love Mac OS X, I just don't totally love the GUI. Mac OS X was based on NeXTSTEP / OPENSTEP, which, IMHO, was a far better looking GUI than anything else I have ever seen.

As for Windows, I don't mind the Win95 theme. On my XP machines and in my XP partitions I don't just enable the Classic look, I fully disable the entire Themes service. Makes it faster, use less ram, and gives me the Win95 look that I prefer.
 

Looney

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Originally posted by: MeStinkBAD

There really is no point in "prettying" up Windows just so it's more pleasing on the eyes. It has to do more. One area where Windows lacks badly is icon usage. Most icons are generic and simple. You rarely ever see custom folder icons for applications, for example. And application icons are simple and generic. The same can be said for document icons as well. Icons are pretty bad in Windows... probably because there are no decent tools for creating them. So in the end everything looks the same.

Of course I'm sure none of you care do you...


WTF on the one hand you say there's no point in 'prettying' up Windows, then your entire argument is about variety of icons?

All the icons, prettiness, ease of use, security, etc means little if there's no software/hardware compatability/variety.
 

Canterwood

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I have to admit that imo, the default XP Luna theme is quite possibly the most ugly and garish theme I've ever seen.

Its bloody awful, and looks like it would appeal to three year olds. :disgust:
I've no idea who at MS thought it would be 'cool', but I'd hate to leave them in charge of decorating my house! :Q

The trouble is, if you want to install a decent theme on XP, then you have to hack Windows to be able to do so, which is annoying.

I was lucky enough to be creating the new master image for our XP installations at work, and needless to say, the themes service is disabled and its 'classic' for everyone. Nice. ;)
 

thereaderrabbit

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Originally posted by: TGS
Originally posted by: jlbenedict
Originally posted by: spherrod
Originally posted by: XBoxLPU
Originally posted by: xcript
Originally posted by: inthell
may be try this http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/29776677/
Or FlyakiteOSX.

Now THAT is a website! :Q

very impressive for sure

daaamn..

Obviously coming from a W2K stoneage GUI but... Wow that's pretty interesting. I'm not sure what I liked better the interface, or the web driven presentation. :)

I just gave FlyakiteOSX a try.

Very interesting stuff! When setup properly it does an excellent job of mimicing a Mac. Now how much longer is this kind of toy going to be available?
 

MeStinkBAD

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Originally posted by: Looney
WTF on the one hand you say there's no point in 'prettying' up Windows, then your entire argument is about variety of icons?

Here are some examples of icons and there usefullness.

Icons for Konfabulator Widgets as seen on a Mac.

How widget icons appear under Windows...

Icons from the application folder on a Mac.

I'm not going to bother showing what the Windows Program Files folder looks like. Just a bunch of different folders with different names.

The purpose of these icons makes it easier to identify one thing from another. It's not just to make it look pretty. As you can see, even folders on the Mac have icons. You NEVER see that with Windows (though it is possible).

All the icons, prettiness, ease of use, security, etc means little if there's no software/hardware compatability/variety.

What's the point of even responding to this eh? Anyone who uses or owns a Mac knows this is not true... I have an intel based iMac... I have Windows on it so I can play games... but for ANYTHING else I use OS X. The less things I do with Windows the less likely it is to f**k up.




 

Looney

Lifer
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Originally posted by: MeStinkBAD
Originally posted by: Looney
WTF on the one hand you say there's no point in 'prettying' up Windows, then your entire argument is about variety of icons?

Here are some examples of icons and there usefullness.

Icons for Konfabulator Widgets as seen on a Mac.

How widget icons appear under Windows...

Blame that on the widget creators. That's like saying .exe or shortcuts are all bland. Well, some developers do use fancy icons.

I'm not going to bother showing what the Windows Program Files folder looks like. Just a bunch of different folders with different names.

That's fine with me. My mind registers names a lot quicker than pictures. It's why i use detailed view rather than thumbnails.

The purpose of these icons makes it easier to identify one thing from another. It's not just to make it look pretty. As you can see, even folders on the Mac have icons. You NEVER see that with Windows (though it is possible).

Again, i don't need a picture to tell me this. Instead of memorizing a thousand icons to know what the folder contains, i'll rather read the name.

What's the point of even responding to this eh? Anyone who uses or owns a Mac knows this is not true... I have an intel based iMac... I have Windows on it so I can play games... but for ANYTHING else I use OS X. The less things I do with Windows the less likely it is to f**k up.

LOL yeah, OSX NEVER crashes.
 

dawks

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Originally posted by: bjc112
I like my setup -> Here


One thing I cannot stand about many third party themes is the thin task bar. Its such a small issue but I bugs me. I use Windows Media Player quite often and I like to minimize it to the taskbar, but when I do that, it doesnt fit on the thin task bar, so it automatically resizes it. PITA.

Small issue, but bothers me big time.

I just use the Windows Media Center default. Royale. Looks mych better imo.
 

dclive

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Originally posted by: Looney
LOL yeah, OSX NEVER crashes.

If nobody built their own machines, but instead just bought Dell, HP, Compaq, etc. PCs, the problem rate for PCs in a board like this would be drastically less.

That said, given that Apple controls all the drivers on their systems for the vast majority of users (ie those that don't add aftermarket hardware, which would be the vast majority), they're going to have fewer crashes.

So yes, when you look at this particular messageboard, and compare that to a typical Mac messageboard with straight-from-Apple hardware and few non-Apple kernel-level drivers, yes, I'm sure there are fewer problems on the Mac side.

There are a lot of conditions on the above text. Before anyone gets bent out of shape, realize what's written.