Why is this child being punished ??? His arms were crushed!!!!!!!!!!

[pg22]

hi

 

[Vic]

The level of bigotry and outright ignorance in this thread is astonishing. Is this child exploitation? Certainly. But poverty is to blame there. There is no call to blame and/or denounce all Arabs, Farsi, or all of Islam for an isolated event, unless you are already a bigot hellbent on finding an excuse. Does the current government of Iran suck? Yes, but that is no excuse to blame all Iranians unless you expect the world to blame all Americans for GW Bush.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: compuwiz1
And since when are Iranians not Arabs? To my understanding they have always been. If that's not the case, help me understand, please. Seems, however, that my educators taught me that back in school.

Your educators lied to you. Arabs come from the Arabian Peninsula, where the country of Iran is not located. In addition, the Iranians are actually of different blood (not being whole semitic) and speak a different language (Farsi). Also, Iranian Muslims are primarily Shiite, while Arabian Muslims are primarily Sunni.

 

[jpeyton]

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Originally posted by: The Linuxator
WOW , they actually hang murderes infront of everyone so ppl can learn from other's mistakes how crule. WE HAVE THE FVKING ELECTRIC CHAIR !!!!! LOOK HOW MRECIFUL WE ARE, how ignorant of you.

Any death penalty is cruel, but punishments such as stoning are beyond barbaric.

And you are FVKING TROLLING HERE, Muslims don't just catch someone and accuse him of theft and cut his arm on spot, there are rules about that , these rules include but not restricted to witneses, proof, court..a judge..etc
If these punishments are state sponsored as you are saying then by Kuwait's law proof must be presented.

Cutting off someone's arm for theft is barbaric.

Do you know in Islam a man or women or both accused of having illegal sex (like they are not married or something like that ) 4 witnesses must approach the court and all of them must say that they have without any doubt have seen the man and woman being accused doing it and if one them is not sure then the case is false, and the witnesses are punished in case it was proven that they were lying.

The punishment for 'illegal sex' is barbaric and cruel.

Many 'Islamic Laws' (under strict interpretation) are cruel, outdated, and disgusting when taken into today's time. I suspect the same could be said of other religions as well. Fortunately not as many seem to take it so literally today in these other religions.

What countries have those laws that you just listed?
I'll help, Saudi Arabia .. any others?

Your point doesn't really make much sense since I am speaking about religion, not countries.

In effect, you didn't help out at all. But thanks.

Islamic Law is not in the Quran

so therefore it has everything to do with it.

You're not making sense. I'm talking about Islamic Law, not particular countries.

Law is a function of government, not religion. Iran and Pakistan are both Islamic Republics but last time I checked they didn't have the same laws. So come back when you do some research.

Kthxbye.

 

[0roo0roo]

law is function of religion when religion and government are intertwined. tada...islamic law.

 

[LTC8K6]

This was just a show to make money for poor people. It is like a circus side show/freak show/snake charmer, etc. Laying on a bed of nails is popular.

Such shows occur all over the world and even in the U.S.A.

Running someone over with a vehicle is a common part of such shows. I saw one the other day in a magician's act. Penn & Teller, I think. They used a special vehicle.

They probably do the show in Iran several times a day, and the boy is definitely in on it.

You conceal 2 pieces of wood or pipe in the towel and make sure the boy's arm is in between them. The pieces of wood or pipe take the weight of the vehicle and the boy's arm is unharmed.

 

[RabidMongoose]

Originally posted by: jpeyton
Law is a function of government, not religion. Iran and Pakistan are both Islamic Republics but last time I checked they didn't have the same laws. So come back when you do some research.

Kthxbye.

Except when it's derived from religion. I think that you need to do some more research and then come back. In addition, I think that you need to understand my argument. You have obviously failed in that. I would hope that you could actually try to pay some attention, but we all know that you are likely incapable of such an act.

Kthxbye.

 

[aidanjm]

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: LS20

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Iran is a dreadful place. Populated by barbaric people who see no problem in killing or torturing children. Aimster is an apologist for the islamo-facist Iranian regime.

[NSFW - disturbing image of girl, hung] Girl, 16, hung in Iran for "unchaste" behaviours

i dont think anyone here could honestly condone punishment such as those. are some of the actions of their government extreme? yes... the people there are quite repressed. i wouldnt say we have a perfect, altruistic regime in the states either. (no, i am not comparing the 2 .. wouldnt want a fire here)....

anyways, point is, to say that iran is a dreadful place populated by barbaric people is an ignorant generalization. things like these do nothing but add to the prejudice and bigotry in real, darn-tootin amerikuns

To the guy who posted the link to prove a point to me:

She was accused of abusing a child.

Oh really? Who accused her of that? Please provide a link.

Originally posted by: Aimster
Why are you posting executions where the person who is being hung is accused of being a child abuser? I dont care how old they are.

What evidence do you have that girl abused another child? Frankly, I have never heard of this allegation of child abuse before. It wasn't mentioned in any of the dozens of articles I have read on the execution of that girl. What is known is that she was mentally incompetent - mentally ill - and the time of execution. It is also known that she was 16 years old.

I suspect you are lying. I think you have made up this allegation of child abuse, simply because you think that is a quick, easy way to sully the repuation of someone who is now DEAD - and therefore doesn't have a chance to defend herself. If this is true - if you are DELIBERATELY LYING about this girl, accusing her of being a child molester because you believe that no-one will have any sympathy for her if they think she is a child molester (i.e., because you think this will be a quick, efficient method of destroying her reputation and eliminating any chance people in the West might have synpathy for her) - then you are an even more despicable piece of trash than I already suspected.

I can only hope the above is not the case, and that your slanderous comments about this brave young girl - executed under the Sharia law you so dearly love - represent an "honest" error on your part.

Originally posted by: Aimster
Look at all the child abuse threads on anandtech and look at everyone who says burn them. When other countries actually kill them it is all of a sudden wrong.

I am talking about a 16 year old girl. Who was murdered by the Iranian state under the Sharia Islamic law that you are defending. There is no good evidence this girl was a child abuser. I have read quite a bit on this girl - and my opinion is that she was an amazing, brave young girl - she was definitely a feminist of sorts, and her feminism is imo what got her killed. It seems you can't make an argument based on logic or the facts, so you resort to character assassination by casually, blithely accusing this girl of being a child abuser (when in fact there are not even suspicions, let alone evidence, that this is the case). Youe behaviour here is truly despicable.

 

[aidanjm]

Originally posted by: ThePresence
You guys should back off Aimster. He is not defending the Iranian regime, he said a few times that he doesn't like them. All he's saying is that this was not a state-sponsered event, just something that a few sickos did. It happened to happen in Iran, but there are sickos everywhere. I think the people who did should be hunted down and shot on the spot.

Um, yes "Aimster" is defending the Iranian regime. And yes, he is defending the barbaric Sharia law (Islamic law). Aimster is an enemy of freedom. I actually wonder what on earth he is doing in the usa.

 

[aidanjm]

Originally posted by: Aimster
I'm sorry there are only 150 executions in Iran every year.

"Only" 150 executions per year? Interesting choice of words - kind of indicates where your values lie. :disgust:

"Only" one country (China) executes more individuals each year than Iran.

Interestingly, the number of inidividuals executed under barbaric Sharia (Islamic) law in Iran each year is almost THREE TIMES the number of individuals executed in the USA. Think how large of a population the USA has, compared to the tiny nation of Iran. :disgust:

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: sundevb
Explanation: it's Iran.

oh shut the hell up....
if you're as ignorant as this piece of sh!t (i.e. sundevb), please don't post...

it's a street performance... david blane kinds of crap. it's not punishment.

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: Braznor
I do not know what to make of these pictures???

It seems that this young child is guilty of some crime and is being punished with wanton bestiality. :| :Q

Here is this link:

Young child's arm crushed !!!!!

If someone knows Arabic on this forum, please provide us an interpretation of this horror!!!!!

Others are free to leave comments :disgust:

it's not arabic; it's farsi.

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: PurdueRy

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: PurdueRy

Originally posted by: jpeyton
REPOST


And its fake, unless you think a towel and a child's arm can hold up a car that far off the ground.

The wheel is practically touching the ground in every picture....😕

Here are ALL the pictures.

Look at the last one. If a car's weight is on a rag and a child's arm, it would be touching the ground.

looks perfectly fine to me...

Well here's a test. Take a blanket, wrap a cucumber in it, and park a car over it. Let us know how well that cucumber/blanket combo supports the car's weight.

i guess now this moron's a physics/biomechanics/kinesiology expert? i'm going to school to be a doctor and i can say, whole-heartedly, that your post is full of crap.

your forearm is made of two FLAT bones. the hollow structure of bones gives them an extreme amount of load-bearing forces axially and perpendicularly. the way the kid has his hand rotated, he's basically laying out his forearm bones (radius and ulna) as flat as possible (to disperse the amount of pressure given by the tire) on top of a soft/malleable rest so that the force is, a) distributed throughout the entire system and not just the forearm, b) to get rid of any pivot points that might injur or break the kid's arm.

a far cry from a cucumber and a blanked, you dumbass.

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: compuwiz1
And since when are Iranians not Arabs? To my understanding they have always been. If that's not the case, help me understand, please. Seems, however, that my educators taught me that back in school.

your educators were dumbasses. don't follow in their footsteps.

difference between iranians and arabs:
- the language is different
- the system of beliefs are different
- the history is COMPLETELY different
- the people are different
- the islamic school of thought is different
- the heritage is different
- the alphabet is slightly different

when it comes to iranians and arabs, you're basically talking grapefruits and oranges. to the average idiot, they're practically the same even though they're completely different.

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: Crazyfool
Whatever is going on in this series of pics, it is messed up. There is no justifying anything of this sort.

stfu. it's a street performance.

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: Braznor

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: Braznor
You are an Iranian,

There is a significant conflict of interest. You would try to whitewash the crime in order to paint a better picture of the situation. So therefore you could be having an agenda.

As for me, I do not know what excatly to make of these pictures, that is why I posted them here in the first place.

better picture of the situation? Those articles are made by Iranians living in the U.S to make the Iranian govt. look evil. I am an Iranian in the U.S and I am pointing it out how I see it. The article itself even says it is a street performance. The link you posted took out the text but someone posted the ones with the text. If anything I would want to make the iranian govt. look evil. I do , but I dont go around showing BS articles to make my agenda look better.

I see this crap all the time on hundreds of websites. I've seen this already .. these pictures are not new to me. They are old news but they pop up because someone decides to put them on their propaganda website.

Use common sense. The guy is using a microphone in the first picture and there is a towel under the boy arms.

The purpose of these pictures hitting the internet is to say the kid is being punished for a crime. If he was being punished for a crime, why would they put a towel under his arm?

Can you post a credible third party article stating clearly that this a street performace????
Listen, Aimster, the iranian regime does not need enemies to advertise it's barbarism, it does it too well by itself. I recall a governmental edict that mandated that condemened virgin girls needs to raped before they are executed i.e so that they do not accidentally enter heaven!!!!!

Also witness the current Iranian president's speech that Israel needs to annihilated!!!!

By the way, a towel would do jack to prevent a child's tender arms being crushed by a truck.

clearly, you're an idiot.

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Originally posted by: Aimster
repost

explanation

It's not a crime/punishment. It's a street performance. The kid is not hurt. This is what people do when they need food to eat. Happens all over the world.

By the way these photos are all over Iranian webistes for the purpose of making the world hate Iran so the U.S can invade and takeover. Propaganda.

/end thread

Um, no, it's not the end of the thread.

Even assuming what we are seeing is "street performance" there can be no doubt that the child is not a happy, willing participate. That is clear in this "after" photos:

Text

Apparently the kids arm isn't broken. He doesn't look too happy, tho.

If this is 'street performace' then it is child exploitation of a particularly venal & disgusting kind.

One wonders what kind of a society must Iran be to tolerate this barbarity..

i'm getting my doctorate... i see no broken arm or any signs of a fracture, so how could you?

if you don't know how to read farsi, keep quiet. it's a frigging street performance.

the idiot that started this thread asked if anyone could translate.... it was translated by more than one person who can read farsi. for some reason, you people keep wanting to make it more than it really is.

it's just some poor people from tehran putting on a street performance. that's all it is. ffs, people...

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: Braznor

Originally posted by: Aimster


Kangaroo court? Are you suggesting that the Iranian courts are not fair when it deals with rape cases? Prove it

Aimster, here is all the proof you need and more :disgust:


The justice of Iranian laws

hey, moron... that's got nothing to do with your thread! you asked for a translation and you got it.

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: yllus
It's one of two things:

1) Deliberate maiming of the child so he'll make a 'better' beggar.
2) Punishment of a street dweller (homeless) kid for stealing.

3) you're a moron.

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Originally posted by: LS20

Originally posted by: Captain Howdy
Wow, Aimster is 100% correct in stating some of you are coming off as close-minded fools. As Bill Hicks would say: "Squeegee your third expletive eye"

Thank you for the informative posts, and good luck trying to explain things to Americans that get their geography/history lessons from war and/or the media. It is kind of funny to read the posts that are getting the exact reaction they (media) want. Must be the same people that are herded by the media to feel a certain way about things in the United States, when, as you stated, despicable acts like this happen here just as often.
:thumbsdown: to sheeple...

would you have expected anything else, though

Iran is a dreadful place. Populated by barbaric people who see no problem in killing or torturing children. Aimster is an apologist for the islamo-facist Iranian regime.

[NSFW - disturbing image of girl, hung] Girl, 16, hung in Iran for "unchaste" behaviours

have you ever been to iran? no... you haven't. if you have, you'd know that it's not a dreadful place at all. it's a place where 85% of the population has a 180 degree mindest that of the government which rules them. it's full of extremely kind and friendly people who will go out of their way to make you comfortable and happy.

unless you've ever been to iran, don't talk about it like you have... especially if you're gonna blast it with the same kind of counter-productive b.s. you just did.

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Originally posted by: LS20

Originally posted by: Captain Howdy
Wow, Aimster is 100% correct in stating some of you are coming off as close-minded fools. As Bill Hicks would say: "Squeegee your third expletive eye"

Thank you for the informative posts, and good luck trying to explain things to Americans that get their geography/history lessons from war and/or the media. It is kind of funny to read the posts that are getting the exact reaction they (media) want. Must be the same people that are herded by the media to feel a certain way about things in the United States, when, as you stated, despicable acts like this happen here just as often.
:thumbsdown: to sheeple...

would you have expected anything else, though

Iran is a dreadful place. Populated by barbaric people who see no problem in killing or torturing children. Aimster is an apologist for the islamo-facist Iranian regime.

[NSFW - disturbing image of girl, hung] Girl, 16, hung in Iran for "unchaste" behaviours

no, actually he's someone who hates the islamo-fascist regime. i don't know how many times he's gotta tell you that almost all iranians hate the government.

why do you think that there are daily demonstrations and protests in tehran with thousands of students, dissenters, and protesters at each gathering?

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: FrancesBeansRevenge
The crimes against humanity the United States is guilty of committing dwarf this incident even if it took place to EVERY 14yo boy in Iran.
But, instead of concentrating on our culpability as American citizens in our own crimes against the world, we point and accuse others of being
even lower scum than we are.

When we have solved the problem of our government killing tens of thousands of innocents via 'collateral damage' and the many other problems our country has then perhaps we can then worry about
what the lunatics in Iran are doing.

Seriously, who the ****** do we as Americans think we are?
We have one of the most violent societies in the world, one of the highest murder rates and a higher percentage of our citizens are in prison than any other nations on Earth except China and Russia.
We are the richest country in history yet have a signifcant percentage of people living in poverty and without health insurance.

Who told us our particular brand of ****** smells so rosy we are to export it by force to other nations?

kudos.

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: djheater
This thread is so full of sh!t it ought to be flushed.

qft

 

[eits]

here's a little bit of education for your dumb asses.

Bobby Mozafari
Comparative Politics
Murphy

Women?s Rights and How it Differs from Shari?a to Shari?a


''Many women face additional barriers to the enjoyment of their human rights because of such factors as their race, language, ethnicity, culture, religion, disability or socio-economic class or because they are indigenous people, migrants, including women migrant workers, displaced women or refugees. They may also be disadvantaged and marginalized by a general lack of knowledge and recognition of their human rights as well as by the obstacles they meet in gaining access to information and recourse mechanisms in cases of violation of their rights.''

-Beijing Platform for Action, Strategic Objective I, paragraph 225 (FWCW Platform for Action: Human Rights for Women).



Throughout history, women have been on the receiving end of oppressive societies and cultures. It is no question that, to this day, the oppression in various countries persists. In some regions of the world, the mistreatment of women has been in practice for so long that where one people may find the treatment grotesque and inhumane, the others ? the oppressors and the oppressed ? find it banal. Since September 11, a lot of attention has been focused on the Muslim world and its human rights towards women. The treatment of women, a subject of the differing opinion, throughout the Middle East, has been an ongoing debate. In Islamic countries, it is part of the shari?a ? Islamic law ? that while ?women and men are created as equal they are assigned differing roles in society? (Barzegar). In fact, the Prophet Mohammad did not advocate unequal treatment of men and women nor did he suggest women to be veiled and secluded. He was even mocked and assaulted because of his strong and courageous stance on the status of women. He came with a message that lifted women up and gave them dignity (Pulsipher, 282). Although every Islamic country holds true to their shari?a, there are differences. For example, the two largest countries in the Middle East, Iran and Saudi Arabia, are the most influential of countries in this region, yet are completely different when it comes to women?s rights under shari?a.

Saudi Arabia, for example, exercises the Wahhabi school of thought. This way of life was essentially a purification of the Sunni sect of Islam regarding the ?veneration of saints, ostentation in worship, and luxurious living as the chief evils? (Columbia Encyclopedia, ed. 6). The founder, Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahab (c.1703-1791), taught that everything past the third century of Islam was unauthentic and, therefore, should be removed from society. Basically, everything that was not necessary and was not part of the Islamic way of life at its grassroots was viewed as false (extravagant dress, smoking tobacco or hashish, beautifications in mosques, etc.). The way it became woven into the Saudi way of life was simple; he converted the Saud tribe. In 1763, the Saudi sheik waged jihad against any opposing views of Islam and conquered his neighbors.

This is contrasted greatly with the Shia, or Jafari Shia, school of thought implemented in Iran. Shiaism started in Iran by a man name Hassan Sabbah. It was a modified version of Islam that was used as a way to fight off the invading Arabs. It adheres to belief that there were 12 legitimate successors, or imams, to the Prophet Mohammad. The term ?Shia? refers to the followers of the fourth Caliph Ali, who was the Prophet Muhammad's son-in-law through his daughter Fatima. He was the last Caliph to be elected, as well as the last Caliph to be chosen from the original group of converts. They chose Ali because he was the only rightful successor of the Prophet Mohammad, thus rejecting the first three Caliphs.

In Saudi Arabia, women were expected to take care of the home and family who would, in turn, be taken care of by the men. Men have higher education, greater access to employment, the right to drive, and greater power to make decisions within a family and community. Because of this, women carry the burden of birthing as many male heirs as possible in order to enhance family wealth and social rank. In this society, men come before women (Pulsipher, 277). Men have all the rights and privileges of all activities and positions in society. For example, men can be judges, lawyers, drivers, and businessmen whereas women can?t do anything except for what their husbands let them. In fact, men get two times more inheritance than a woman. Also, as a witness, one male witness account is equal to two female witness accounts (Mozafari).

Saudi women live life themed with seclusion. The standard of seclusion in this part of the region is so high that women are only allowed to see the streets from their apartments through latticed bays. That way, she can see out and no one else can see in (Pulsipher, 283). If a woman wanted to go outside, she must be accompanied by a related male and must walk a few steps behind him (Hensley). In addition, she must be covered from head-to-toe in black with eyeholes to allow her vision. The covering is another way by which to keep her secluded. This decree, if disobeyed, is punishable by imprisonment, flogging, or even death ? as 15 schoolgirls in Mecca found out. ?In Mecca, religious police forced 15 girls back into a burning school ? to their death in March 2002. Their crime? They tried to flee without their scarves. In Saudi Arabia, devotion to religious practices comes ahead of life itself ? if you are a woman (Women in Islam).? Also, women, as well as men, cannot dance or commingle with the opposite sex at parties. For example, men and women are separated throughout their entire wedding. The rooms are segregated; women are in the room with the bride and men are in the room with the groom.

Despite advancements in wealth and standard of living in Saudi Arabia, the status and treatment of women has more or less stayed the same. Due to international pressure, education for women has improved. There are more female teachers ? who can only teach girls ? however, it doesn?t get them anywhere in society. Although the female literacy rate gone from 50.3% in 1998 (Pulsipher, 278) to 68.2% in 2001 (GDI, 2001), Saudi Arabia has only 8% of women who are wage-earning workers (Pulsipher, 277).

Under the Islamic regime adopted in 1979, the social status of women in Iran is considerably better than that of Saudi Arabia. In fact, equality between men and women has always been deeply rooted in Persian culture and society due to the widespread belief in Zoroastrianism (Mozafari). Although women and men are segregated in Iran today, the disparities between men and women in regards to education and job opportunities are not great. For the year 2001, the literacy rate of women in Iran was 70.2% and 83.8% for the men (GDI, 2001). Furthermore, in Iran, women are allowed suffrage, which is a large part of why President Mohammad Khatami is the president today. In fact, most of the voters who voted for him were women and students (Pulsipher, 307). This was because he was a reformist and the most moderate of the other clerics.

Iranian women must adhere to the hijab or ru-sarri (?head covering?) ? it?s more-or-less a babushka ? past the age of puberty. However, it is not uncommon to see Western dress and make-up under a chador. In fact, moderate president Mohammad Khatami?s mother has been seen wearing high-fashion clothing under her chador (Pulsipher, 283). They are only required to wear it when out in public. Many women view the chador as not only a traditional article of clothing for them to wear, but a sign of respect for Islam as well as themselves.

However, there is a constant feminist movement in Iran. One major victory for the feminist movement in Iran happened this past week when the Nobel Peace Prize was awarded to Shireen Ebadi, a former judge and professor of law at the University of Tehran. Also, as a result of the women?s struggle in Iran, there are seven senators and one of the vice presidents is women.

In conclusion, the key differences in each state?s school of thought influence the wellbeing of society and the treatment of women. Women?s rights in Saudi Arabia are considerably different than those in Iran. As mentioned before, Saudi Arabia?s Wahhabi-based Sunni Shari?a was shaped in a way that it brought society back almost a century. It changed everything that Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahab said was un-Islamic to the way it was up to three centuries past Islam?s creation. The Shia school of thought came in defiance to Arab advancements into Persian land. It was a modified version of Islam as a form of protection as well as defiance. Because of the social structures in place in these two societies during the grassroots of the shari?as they have in place today, there are many differences. In Saudi Arabia, Wahhabism took over neighbors by conquest and was enforced and changed societies. Today, because of that, women cannot become professionals in Saudi Arabia. They cannot become doctors, lawyers, businesswomen, or even police officers. However, because Persia had a social structure in place for over 2000 years set by Zoroastrianism where men and women were essentially equal, the modification of Islam did not greatly alter the way of life for Persian women. Up to the Islamic revolution, women could do basically everything a man could do. It is these core fundamentals that shape a shari?a to one that is strict and oppressive from one that is tolerant to change and modification.




Bibliography
1) ?Wahhabi.? Columbia Encyclopedia, Sixth Edition, Copyright © 2003.
2) United Nations FWCW Platform for Action: Human Rights of Women. Beijing, 1995.
3) Hensley, Caroline. Personal Interview. October 15, 2003
4) Mozafari, David. Personal Interview.
5) Barzegar, Abbas. Personal Interview. October 15, 2003
6) ?Women in Islam.? Road to Peace. Sept 2002 http://www.roadtopeace.org/history/women/women.htm
7) Pulsipher, Lydia M. World Regional Geography. New York: W. H. Freeman and Company, 2000.
8) ?Human Development Index (HDI): Monitoring Human Development: Enlarging People?s Choices?? Human Development Reports 2003. 2003 http://www.undp.org/hdr2003/indicator/pdf/hdr03_table_1.pdf

also, this is a very informative link... go to it and LEARN SOMETHING, you closed-minded morons:

http://www.nytimes.com/packages/html/opinion/20040519_IRAN_FEATURE/index.html

 

[TomSeek]

I agree that this is a street show. Look at picture #6! The car is actually lifted off the ground over the kid's arm.

However, after 10 or 15 posts from "eits", I can't count how many times he calls people either "idiots" or "morons". OK, eits. You are an IDIOT and a MORON! The fact that you have no other words in your vocabulary proves it! Stop using those words.

Tom