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therealnickdanger

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WOW. Just subbed to Digital Foundry. This is why I've stopped reading reviews and moved to Youtube for my game/hardware reviews.. but this is the slickest one I've seen yet. You can't beat this.
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Reviews are good for the (usually) objective data, but those static charts leave a lot to be desired. The YouTube videos are a very helpful way to judge exactly what "playable" vs. "unplayable" looks like. It's not perfect given the constant frame rate of the video, but a 60fps video will let you see stuttering and tearing pretty easily.

On the topic of the Fury X specifically, it is clear that it is not beating the 980Ti/TitanX all of the time, but it is definitely competitive. Combined with its near-silent operation, cool temps, and neat lights/tach, I would say that its price is justified for that elite feeling. The downsides are obvious for those that care about overclocking and HDMI 2.0 non-DP displays over 60Hz.

Things will get interesting between now and Christmas. Fury X2, Fury, and Nano. 970Ti, 960Ti. Pricing battles and stabilizing. Driver improvements. Windows 10 and a small handful of DX12 games.
 
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exar333 said:
The Mantle version of BF4 is terribly buggy. Honestly, it should be forgotten...
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I use mantle only when playing BF4, and I have not had any issues since it was first released (that first 2 months was a bit rough). Runs far better for me, especially on 64 man servers where CPU usage is highest.
 
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exar333 said:
The Mantle version of BF4 is terribly buggy. Honestly, it should be forgotten...
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Mantle is absolute butter on my rig. It's been solid since the first patch after they implemented it. The only thing that needs to die is DX11.

As far as the timeliness of the review, give the site a break. If the writer is sick do you want a half arsed review pushed out the door just to meet a deadline? Quality is king IMO.
 
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I haven't had any issues outside of the initial launch. Are you referring to anything specific?
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I would be willing to give it a partial pass if they fixed the issues. Tried playing it after launch it was terrible on my bro's 290. CTD and all sorts of graphical issues. Was so bad I wrote it off at that point and did DX11. Ran fine...

Asking for Mantle benches is just silly, as it will never be released again. Asking for DX12 is valid, on the other hand, and carries the bulk of the Mantle code-base forward. Mantle though, is dead.
 
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yacoub said:
The person in that post compared it to the 980 instead of the 980Ti. Here's the comparison that matters right now when they're equivalently priced at $650 each:

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1496?vs=1513

And as someone who's bought AMD for close to a decade now, because they've been rock-solid GPUs that performed well and had a solid bang-for-the-buck, I think the 980Ti is the better choice. You get 2GB more VRAM, better performance in 99% of the stuff tested, quieter, cooler, and you get a nice air-cooled card rather than some hydro contraption.
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No that isn't the proper comparison either. You are comparing it to the air cooled Ti and it should be compared to the liquid cooled hybrid which makes it roughly 100 dollars less expensive than the Ti.

Fair is Fair.
 
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NesuD said:
No that isn't the proper comparison either. You are comparing it to the air cooled Ti and it should be compared to the liquid cooled hybrid which makes it roughly 100 dollars less expensive than the Ti.

Fair is Fair.
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For someone who values the CLC, that would be true. For the majority of users, they care about performance. The CLC doesn't really factor-in there directly. AMD made a design decision to add the CLC. That added some cost, plus many benefits. That doesn't mean it should only be compared to a niche-version of the 980Ti. If you want CLC regardless, then the Fury X has a $100 advantage, out of the gate.

Also, if NV had selected a CLC for their reference 980Ti, you would likely see that less than $749. Costs go down when you make tens of thousands (or even a million) vs. a few hundred or thousand.
 
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BF4 and BF:H Mantle support has had issues on Tonga since it's release, might be the same with Fiji...

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Shifting gears, for the launch of the R9 285 AMD is advising reviewers and users alike that Mantle performance on Thief and Battlefield 4 is not going to be up to snuff right now. The reason for this is simple, but the potential ramifications are a bit more complex.
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Brent Justice said:
When we tested BF4 this round we started off testing under Mantle on the R9 285 GPU. We got our results, and it seemed a little low to us. We tested again but this time under Direct3D 11 and actually found performance to be better under DX11. This happens from time to time in this game, as new patches are released sometimes new drivers have to come along that help Mantle performance. For right now, we stuck with the best performing runs we got, which were under DX11, so all cards are tested under DX11 for this article.
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AMD cards we tested in DirectX mode and Mantle. Only in the case of the Radeon R9 285 Mantle mode performance was significantly worse than in DirectX. The remaining cards behave like included in the graph Radeon R9 290X.
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PCLab.pl BF Hardline benchmark (untranslated)
 
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NesuD said:
No that isn't the proper comparison either. You are comparing it to the air cooled Ti and it should be compared to the liquid cooled hybrid which makes it roughly 100 dollars less expensive than the Ti.

Fair is Fair.
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Not when I wouldn't even want liquid cooling to begin with, and not when the cards are measured STOCK vs STOCK. That one comes with one cooling method and one comes with another is not actually relevant because they simply are how they are from the factory. We're comparing performance, after all, not physical looks or cooling methods.
 
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yacoub said:
Not when I wouldn't even want liquid cooling to begin with, and not when the cards are measured STOCK vs STOCK. That one comes with one cooling method and one comes with another is not actually relevant because they simply are how they are from the factory. We're comparing performance, after all, not physical looks or cooling methods.
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you see no value in water cooling. that is why. while many of us do. :eek:
 
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Call my cynical but I bet AT was paid to not put up the review on time or maybe even at all. Considering how controversial the review process was for the 290 when it came out there's obvious bias.
 
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Owls said:
Call my cynical but I bet AT was paid to not put up the review on time or maybe even at all. Considering how controversial the review process was for the 290 when it came out there's obvious bias.
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You're cynical.:p

Anyhow, the holdup is just just sick me laying on the couch.:( I've even lost my voice, so all-in-all it's been a less than entertaining week.
 
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Ryan Smith said:
You're cynical.:p

Anyhow, the holdup is just just sick me laying on the couch.:( I've even lost my voice, so all-in-all it's been a less than entertaining week.
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Hope you feel better bud. What's the ETA looking like for the review. Monday?
 
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Ryan Smith said:
You're cynical.:p

Anyhow, the holdup is just just sick me laying on the couch.:( I've even lost my voice, so all-in-all it's been a less than entertaining week.
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Lay on the couch with your laptop and write the review :biggrin:
 
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exar333 said:
I would be willing to give it a partial pass if they fixed the issues. Tried playing it after launch it was terrible on my bro's 290. CTD and all sorts of graphical issues. Was so bad I wrote it off at that point and did DX11. Ran fine...

Asking for Mantle benches is just silly, as it will never be released again. Asking for DX12 is valid, on the other hand, and carries the bulk of the Mantle code-base forward. Mantle though, is dead.
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Your broes machine on probably beta drivers?? Mantle was a damn fine experience on bf4 after the beta drivers from feb or so. 1gig card had hickups.
Difficult to go back to dx11 after that.
 
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Ryan Smith said:
You're cynical.:p

Anyhow, the holdup is just just sick me laying on the couch.:( I've even lost my voice, so all-in-all it's been a less than entertaining week.
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Heh, was this going to be a youtube review with voice-over? ;)
Take two Fiji's and call me in the morning. :)
 
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you see no value in water cooling. that is why. while many of us do. :eek:
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I would value water cooling if the GPU had overclocking headroom. So far it seems like the Fury does not overclock well so I am not sure the advantage of paying more for the cooler.
 
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I would value water cooling if the GPU had overclocking headroom. So far it seems like the Fury does not overclock well so I am not sure the advantage of paying more for the cooler.
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not yet. if amd locked fury x at 10% max oc, they might as well tell every enthusiast to skip them. at that point, I would want them gone as a company and someone to buy them out. since that would be a cap on purpose.
 
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