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Why is the US government so worried about Canada?

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d1abolic

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Why is the US government so worried about Canada? Why is Bush sending troops to the Canadian border? Here's why. At this time, there are 35,000 refugee claimants living in Canada. These are people who came here, asked for refugee status and permission to stay permanently. When they arrived to the airport, they had their pictures and fingerprints taken, and were then released. It takes months for the government to perform background checks, and while they're at it, all refugee claimants are provided with welfare, free food, education, health care and legal aid. Once the results are in, the government will send each of them a letter telling them whether they've been granted refugee status or not. Those who are denied refugee status will be asked to show up at their nearest immigration office for deportation. Not surprisingly, hardly anyone will. There are 27,000 such individuals currently living in Canada. Each of them was denied refugee status for a good reason. Each is a potential terrorist, and since there are over 50 known terrorist organizations operating in the country, many of them probably are. Last month alone, over 1000 refugee claimants arrived from Afghanistan to Canada's largest city, Toronto. More than half had no documents whatsoever, but all were allowed to enter the country. Last week, a dozen of those claimants were arrested because the government had reason to believe that they are members of Al-Qaida. They were all released several days later. When they asked why, reporters were told that there was not enough space to hold them. When the government realised what they've done, they tried tracking them down, but couldn't find a single one. They said that they assume the refugees have already been smuggled into the US. This is why the US government so worried about Canada. This is why there are now 800 troops patrolling the border day and night. You think Afghanistan is bad? I think Canada is worse.
 
Pbbbt...this is BS. Sure, it's our fault that the Afghans flew planes into WTC.

Mind you...the Canadian/US border, when you go from Canada to the US, that side is patrolled by US Customs.

Also, Canada has done nothing but support the US in it's time of need. Didn't you read about the massive Canadian expedition to NYC to support the people as well as the economy?
 


<< Pbbbt...this is BS. Sure, it's our fault that the Afghans flew planes into WTC. >>



They planned it here, raised money for it here and forged their documents here. So... yeah?



<< Mind you...the Canadian/US border, when you go from Canada to the US, that side is patrolled by US Customs. >>



Yeah the official entrances are. What about hundreds of miles of border where people can just walk across?



<< Also, Canada has done nothing but support the US in it's time of need. Didn't you read about the massive Canadian expedition to NYC to support the people as well as the economy? >>



Yeah that's the PEOPLE. We're talking about the GOVERNMENT.
 


<< Last month alone, over 1000 refugee claimants arrived from Afghanistan to Canada's largest city, Toronto. More than half had no documents whatsoever, but all were allowed to enter the country. Last week, a dozen of those claimants were arrested because the government had reason to believe that they are members of Al-Qaida. They were all released several days later. When they asked why, reporters were told that there was not enough space to hold them. >>


Link? That'd surprise the hell out of me, since I live in Toronto and heard nothing like that so far. Especially since we just finished construction of a few "super-jails" and have a base located in the middle of the city that can be dedicated to tasks like holding refugees (done that before).



<< You think Afghanistan is bad? I think Canada is worse. >>


That's an idiotic statement if there's ever been one.
 
LOLOL what ignorant BS. WHERE is this printed anywhere?

And you think 800 troops patrolling Canada is going to stop a terrorist from crossing into the uS? LOLOL

They planned it here, raised money for it here and forged their documents here. So... yeah?

Where'd you hear this bullsh1t? The Ouigi board?

 


<< that's why canada is so safe to live in.

terriost don't attack their own base. >>



Moron.




<< And you think 800 troops patrolling Canada is going to stop a terrorist from crossing into the uS? LOLOL

They planned it here, raised money for it here and forged their documents here. So... yeah?

Where'd you hear this bullsh1t? The Ouigi board? >>



 
Everyone: Blame Canada
Sheila: With all their beady little eyes
And flappin heads so full of lies
Everyone: Blame Canada
Blame Canada
Sheila: We need to form a full assault
Everyone: It's Canadas fault!
Sharon: Don't blame me
For my son Stan
He saw the darn cartoon
And now he's off to join the Klan!
Liane: And my boy Eric once
Had my picture on his shelf
But now when I see him he tells me to fvck myself!
Sheila: Well, blame Canada
Everyone: Blame Canada
It seems that everythings gone wrong
Since Canada came along
Everyone: Blame Canada
Blame Canada
Some Guy: There not even a real country anyway
Ms. McCormick: My son could've been a doctor or a lawyer it's true
Instead he burned up like a piggy on a barbecue
Everyone: Should we blame the matches?
Should we blame the fire?
Or the doctors who allowed him to expire?
Sheila: Heck no!
Everyone: Blame Canada
Blame Canada
Sheila: With all their hockey hubbabaloo
Liane: And that b!tch Anne Murray too
Everyone: Blame Canada
Shame on Canada
The smut we must stop
The trash we must smash
Laughter and fun
must all be undone
We must blame them and cause a fuss
Before someone thinks of blaming uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuus

I think that just aboot explains it. 😀
 
the terrorist caught plotting to blow up the space needle came in through canada... we know that for sure... if one guy can do it... then multiple can... its not really canadas or the us's fault... we've never really had to worry about it to much before.. and especially for canada... they probably dont have as many terrorist threats... even if a lot of their ideas are similar... time for both countries to grow up
 


<< the terrorist caught plotting to blow up the space needle came in through canada... we know that for sure... if one guy can do it... then multiple can... its not really canadas or the us's fault... we've never really had to worry about it to much before.. and especially for canada... they probably dont have as many terrorist threats... even if a lot of their ideas are similar... time for both countries to grow up
>>



Well put.
 
This is the biggest fcuking bunch of garbage I have heard in a long time.
I will not dispute that Canada has more lenient policies regarding refugee's than the US does. I think it may have more to do with compassion then being "soft on terrorists"

In the original post, you see the effects of terrorism first hand .... terror breeds suspicion.

You seem to be suggesting that people without "documents" and "ID" are possible terrorists and do not deserve the benifit of presumed innocence that our laws demand. You do not take into account that these people are fleeing brutal social/economic/political conditions and may not have the luxury of a passport. They don't think about whats going to happen when they arrive in the US/Canada. They just know they need to get the hell out of Afghanistan.

This type of thinking is the result of paranoia bred from terror. It is especially damning to hear it from a so called "American". Oh great America, the melting pot of the world. Phht. Im sure the terrorists responsible for this situation are happy knowing they have wrought this on the weaker minds in North America.

Listen very closely. Canada offered troops. Canada offered economic help. Canada offered police and firemen. Canada offered humanitarian aid. Canada has supported every single god damn move America has made politically since Sept 11th. Canada will continue to support you. Canada stood in shock and horror. Canada mourned. Canada lost citizens and revenue as a result of what happend.

Canada includes refugees from around the world. People who know how sh!itty things can get and never want it to be that way again.
THEY helped you
THEY will continue to.

Give your head a shake.
 
If you don't like YOUR country, d1abolic, feel free to move south. 😉

Most people fail to realize that d1abolic IS Canadian.

Great post, Saltin! 🙂

-khtm-
 


<< Well Put >>


Lol thanks... usually i babble incoherant nonsense.. but that post actually made sense to me as well..
 
Actually there is some reason for concern that terrorists will use Canada's more lenient immigration policies coupled with the largest largely unguarded border in the world to move into the now much more heavily guarded US. Moreover, over fifty terrorist groups operate fundraising activities in Canada with the full knowledge of the Canadian government. As long as they claim to use the money for non-violent uses its allowed. (Keep in mind that the US didn't work to hard to shut down Irish-American front organizations obviously raising money for the IRA either.)

However, given the current state of war and the continuing nature of our assault on terrorism, it would be foolhardy to ignore the security concern of the US/Canadian border. I expect that the Canadian government will improve security measures and may help shut-down some of those organizations.

Of course, Canada has been extremely supportive as a people and as a government to the current crisis. We must, however, recognize the legitimate national security concerns, deal with them internally in terms of increased border security, and also externally in terms of working with the Canadian government to locate and apprehend potential terrorists. Anyone who doubts that Canada is a strong and important ally with the US is foolish. Anyone who questions that the US/Canadian border represents a very real security issue is too.

As to why Canada isn't particularly a target, the answer is simple. Canada does not arm Israel. Canada does not send aircraft carriers to the Persian Gulf. Canada did not launch a massive aerial attack on Iraq. Canada does not have troops stationed in Saudia Arabia and other Gulf States. Canada did not send ships into the Gulf of Sidra in the 80's or bomb Libya. Canada is not currently bombing the hell out of Afghanistan. Canada is not the "Great Satan." Bottom line, there is one superpower that represents western civilization. Those who admire western civilization, admire us. Those who despise western civilization, despise us.

On both sides, the thought of the West is a thought of America. Only we have the power and wealth to back up our world view. Every industrialized nation in the world depends on doing business with America. Every developing country depends on our aid. (Of course, we were the single largest source of aid to Afghanistan.) Our allies depend on our arms and our military presence. Think of how many sovereign nations allow us to station troops within their borders. Europe exists only because we stationed American shock troops in Europe to deter Soviet agression. (In order to invade Europe, the USSR would have had to kill American troops. Such an act would have been a declaration of war against the US and would have resulted in immediate US reprisal.) We have done more in 2 weeks in Afghanistan than the Soviets accomplished in 5 years. No one in the world is willing to publicly attack us either economically or militarily. So, they sneak around and attack our civilians.

This war will tell us who our allies truly our. So far, I think Canada is clearly in that category. Working with the Canadian government, coupled with internal security measures, we can work to minimize the threat of terrorists using Canada as a gateway to the US.

THE END.
 
rstokc,

excellent post. the only thing i would add is it is extremely naive to think that terrorists will not exploit the ease with which they can enter North America through Canada. This is not Canada's "fault", this is their policy in the way they choose manage immigration and to aid distressed persons around the world applying for refugee status. I don't doubt that given the circumstances that we face today, these policies are being reviewed and will perhaps be changed, but that is still Canada's decision to make. they have as much interest in stopping terrorism as the US or anybody does.
 


<< Link? That'd surprise the hell out of me, since I live in Toronto and heard nothing like that so far. >>

I usually read these things in the SUN. You can probalby find something on their site at Canoe.ca


<< LOLOL what ignorant BS. WHERE is this printed anywhere? >>

I'm pretty sure you can find all of this in the paper. Where else?


<< Where'd you hear this bullsh1t? The Ouigi board? >>

Once again, THE PAPER.


<< I think it may have more to do with compassion then being "soft on terrorists" >>

Compassion? For mass murderers?


<< This type of thinking is the result of paranoia bred from terror. It is especially damning to hear it from a so called "American". >>

I'm not panicking, i'm simply stating the facts. Americans are the ones who need to be panicking. Oh yeah i live in Toronto.


<< Canada offered troops. >>

We backed out at the last minute.


<< If you don't like YOUR country, d1abolic, feel free to move south. >>

I like the country. It's the PM that i don't like.


<< I expect that the Canadian government will improve security measures and may help shut-down some of those organizations. >>

I'm sure we will.. one day.. when that moron Chretien is no longer the PM.
 
You think Afghanistan is bad? I think Canada is worse.

Your post was interesting until this totally useless comment at the end.
 


<< Your post was interesting until this totally useless comment at the end. >>



How so? They say Afghanistan is dangerous because their government harbours terrorists. Well there are plenty of terrorists here too, but does it look like the government is doing anything about it?
 
Well you don't really believe that Afghanistan is better than Canada in terms of which one produces or assists the most terrorists do you?
 
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