LOL this was one of the things that was added to the movie that wasn't in the books. LOTRs purists absolutly hate the fact that it was put in. I don't really mind it. So to answer you question according to Tolkien... no.... according to Peter Jackson.. we'll have to wait and see 🙂
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Why is the Ring so powerful in LOTR?
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LOL this was one of the things that was added to the movie that wasn't in the books. LOTRs purists absolutly hate the fact that it was put in. I don't really mind it. So to answer you question according to Tolkien... no.... according to Peter Jackson.. we'll have to wait and see 🙂
Just saw the movie again today at Super Savers Cinema (or something like that) for $2. Can't wait for TTT either.
Oh please do (delve into them). And is all the above in the Silmarillion? I'll have the time to read LOTR and Sil, but probably nothing else. So I'm really hoping Sil answers most of my questions.
Oh please do (delve into them). And is all the above in the Silmarillion? I'll have the time to read LOTR and Sil, but probably nothing else. So I'm really hoping Sil answers most of my questions.
TheOmegaCode
Platinum Member
The elf played by Liv Tyler is Arwen, the one played by the weird blonde chick ( Cate Blanchett ) is Galadriel, queen of Lorien.
Arwen is the one thet gets it on with Aragorn...
I'm suprised Kami didn't say that the ring wraiths were technically the nazgul, not to try to upstage the man, but he did it for almost everything else...
Skyclad1uhm1
Lifer
Yes.
And Sauron was a wimp compared to Gothmog! *likes Balrogs*
TheOmegaCode
Platinum Member
*likes Valaraukar* 😛
Didn't read the thread in detail, but....
In the ancient times, elvish blacksmiths created the Rings off Power. Three for elves, seven for dwares and nine for mortal men. But their work was corrupted by Sauron, who created the One Ring. He poured large part of his power in to the ring, and as long as the ring survived, Sauron wouldn't really be defeated.
The ring gives it's owner power over the other rings and the thigs that were made with those rings. In reality that means that it gives te ruler of the One Ring power over the world. It's lesser power is that it turns the wearer of the ring invisible. The One rong doesn't have power over the three elvish rings, because those are hidden from Sauron.
Kami already gave brief description of Sauron, but here's some more. In the beginning, Valar created the world together with Ilúvatar in the Music of The Ainur. But during The Creation, Melkor, one of the Valar, corrupted the creation. He turned against the other Valar, and he was cast out and given the name Morgoth (The despised). Morgoth came to Middle-earth and enslaved it. Sauron was Morgoths servant. Eventually Morgoth was destroyed in The War of The Silmarils. All this happened long before LOTR takes place. If you want to read abou it, go read Silmarillion.
You could say that Valar = Gods, Maiar = angels. Then who is Ilúvatar? He (she? It?) has always existed. He was before anything else.
In the ancient times, elvish blacksmiths created the Rings off Power. Three for elves, seven for dwares and nine for mortal men. But their work was corrupted by Sauron, who created the One Ring. He poured large part of his power in to the ring, and as long as the ring survived, Sauron wouldn't really be defeated.
The ring gives it's owner power over the other rings and the thigs that were made with those rings. In reality that means that it gives te ruler of the One Ring power over the world. It's lesser power is that it turns the wearer of the ring invisible. The One rong doesn't have power over the three elvish rings, because those are hidden from Sauron.
Kami already gave brief description of Sauron, but here's some more. In the beginning, Valar created the world together with Ilúvatar in the Music of The Ainur. But during The Creation, Melkor, one of the Valar, corrupted the creation. He turned against the other Valar, and he was cast out and given the name Morgoth (The despised). Morgoth came to Middle-earth and enslaved it. Sauron was Morgoths servant. Eventually Morgoth was destroyed in The War of The Silmarils. All this happened long before LOTR takes place. If you want to read abou it, go read Silmarillion.
You could say that Valar = Gods, Maiar = angels. Then who is Ilúvatar? He (she? It?) has always existed. He was before anything else.
Skyclad1uhm1
Lifer
Morgoth could not be destroyed if I remember correctly, he was merely enchained.
Sauron, Gothmog and the rest of the Balrogs were 'lesser' Valor who followed Morgoth when he left the others. Ilúvatar created the world, but when he saw Morgoth corrupting it got angry and made it a prison for Morgoth, too late realizing he had just condemned his creation too (Morgoth couldn't leave the prison, but Ilúvatar couldn't enter it either without being imprisoned himself). The elves, humans, dwarves and other beings that Ilúvatar had created fought great battles with Morgoth and his followers, and managed to destroy most of the Balrogs and enchain Morgoth himself. Sauron was weakened, but not captured, and as the power of the elves and such diminished, and ancient knowledge was forgotten, Sauron slowly grew in power again.
May be wrong, it's been about 12-13 years since I read it, but it should be about right.
P.S. Orcs, or dark-elves, were elves which were corrupted by Morgoth.
911paramedic
Diamond Member
I am going to rent this the start of next month when it is on DVD, but I heard the end really leaves you hanging. Is that true?
I don't think I got any spoilers here besides the invisible thing, because the rest of it lost me with all the names, lol.
I don't think I got any spoilers here besides the invisible thing, because the rest of it lost me with all the names, lol.
Hmm... I read the LOTR trilogy and was wondering why Gandalf never does anything really wizardlike (or perhaps my definition of a wizard is skewed)? IIRC he just threw out some lightning bolts at the nazgul and held them off. Interestingly, it is a hobbit (Pippin? Merry?) who kills the Nazgul leader.
It leaves you hanging because there's still 2 more movies 😉
Well, the way I read it, Gandalf isn't as much a 'wizard' as a demi-god/angel type thing. And some of his power comes from the Elf ring that was given to him when he entered Middle Earth from the west. That being said, it's generally accepted that Gandalf didn't show the full extent of his power in Middle-Earth. :Q
I would also like to add that Ents 0wn j00 all.
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