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Cpt Cupcake

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Originally posted by: birdpup
Originally posted by: Aimster
People hate Jews

14 million people who are very educated and successful.

People are jealous therefore they hate instead of learn.

... 14 million people who are very educated and successful thieves and properly considered to be economic and societal parasites.

Me, jealous? No, just knowledgable.

:thumbsup:
 

Fenixgoon

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Originally posted by: Metzgermeister
Originally posted by: birdpup
Originally posted by: Aimster
People hate Jews

14 million people who are very educated and successful.

People are jealous therefore they hate instead of learn.

... 14 million people who are very educated and successful thieves and properly considered to be economic and societal parasites.

Me, jealous? No, just knowledgable.

:thumbsup:

good businesspeople != parasites

success != cheating people out of money

quit whining about other people, regardless of where they are on the socioeconomic ladder, and raise your own status if you are so inclined
 

Atomicus

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Originally posted by: Aimster


Blah Blah Blah

Statistics show Jews are more educated than the majorities and more successful.

Research > I know so and so.

If you want to argue with me go argue with the statistics. Go read up on the history of why Jews have always been targets.

Why do you think Hitler hated Jews?

We are not talking about billions of people here. We are talking about 14 million.

Justify your Aryanism elsewhere.

I can see why Jews were chosen as the scapegoat so easily. I am not a heartless beast, but if you were Jewish and flaunted your self-righteousness, then you're asking for it.

Want to know a little about my research a.k.a personal experience? There would be more Jewish people if the rabbis didn't look down on non-Jews. Went to a friend's bar mitzvah in JHS, and lets just say we didn't get any good glances nor words from the elderly and the rabbi himself. I guess praising the wrong Messiah is earning me a 1st class ticket to hell.
 

KingofCamelot

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Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: Atomicus
Aimster's posts never ceases to reaffirm my feeling that he's been shacked up in his room for way too long.

Lets get one thing straight: Jewish people are NOT the Aryan race.

You have the audacity to proclaim that all Jews are well educated and are/will be successful?

HOLY CRAP! Know I do believe that it was God's chosen people who killed my Lord and savior. Stop the "we are jewish, we are above you" attitude.

CUz you know what? I have Jewish friends and some, if not most, of them aren't edumacated all that well.

That's a fact, and go grab a Slim-fast. They're Kosher.

Blah Blah Blah

Statistics show Jews are more educated than the majorities and more successful.

Research > I know so and so.

If you want to argue with me go argue with the statistics. Go read up on the history of why Jews have always been targets.

Why do you think Hitler hated Jews?

We are not talking about billions of people here. We are talking about 14 million.

Hey fat kid, what a chocolate bar? Fatty fat fat kid. After all, you must be fat, since 64% of Americans are overweight.
 

Aimster

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Originally posted by: Atomicus
Originally posted by: Aimster


Blah Blah Blah

Statistics show Jews are more educated than the majorities and more successful.

Research > I know so and so.

If you want to argue with me go argue with the statistics. Go read up on the history of why Jews have always been targets.

Why do you think Hitler hated Jews?

We are not talking about billions of people here. We are talking about 14 million.

Justify your Aryanism elsewhere.

I can see why Jews were chosen as the scapegoat so easily. I am not a heartless beast, but if you were Jewish and flaunted your self-righteousness, then you're asking for it.

Want to know a little about my research a.k.a personal experience? There would be more Jewish people if the rabbis didn't look down on non-Jews. Went to a friend's bar mitzvah in JHS, and lets just say we didn't get any good glances nor words from the elderly and the rabbi himself. I guess praising the wrong Messiah is earning me a 1st class ticket to hell.

I'm not religious. IMO religion has destroyed the world.

I don't care how Jews act or what they've done.
I disagree with how Israel acts and think it is barbaric. I am not defending anyone. I am simply pointing out what statistics/research show.

What you said still doesn't go against what i said about how most Jews are Successful/Educated.

The ones you know might be snobs or bitches or jerks. What does that have to do with education/success?

Sounds like you have beef with the religion of Judaism.
 

ZOXXO

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How did the term "the holocaust" come to being?

Were there not more non-jewish than jewish deaths during the period leading into and culminating WW2?

Just curious.
 

astrocase

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Statistics are like buttholes Aimster. The anti-semitism in this thread is disgusting. I'm surprised you bigots aren't thrown out of here.
 

DBL

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Originally posted by: Atomicus
Justify your Aryanism elsewhere.

I can see why Jews were chosen as the scapegoat so easily. I am not a heartless beast, but if you were Jewish and flaunted your self-righteousness, then you're asking for it.

Want to know a little about my research a.k.a personal experience? There would be more Jewish people if the rabbis didn't look down on non-Jews. Went to a friend's bar mitzvah in JHS, and lets just say we didn't get any good glances nor words from the elderly and the rabbi himself. I guess praising the wrong Messiah is earning me a 1st class ticket to hell.

You sound seriously insecure. Calling someone out for stating fact based statistics while then spouting your own anecdotal evidence in an effort to prove your own twisted generalization. Hypocrite, anyone?

Besides, Jews don't believe in hell.
 

blakeatwork

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Originally posted by: Atomicus
Aimster's posts never ceases to reaffirm my feeling that he's been shacked up in his room for way too long.

Lets get one thing straight: Jewish people are NOT the Aryan race.

You have the audacity to proclaim that all Jews are well educated and are/will be successful?

HOLY CRAP! Know I do believe that it was God's chosen people who killed my Lord and savior. Stop the "we are jewish, we are above you" attitude.

CUz you know what? I have Jewish friends and some, if not most, of them aren't edumacated all that well.

That's a fact, and go grab a Slim-fast. They're Kosher.

Isn't Aimster Iranian???
 

Atomicus

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Originally posted by: Aimster


What you said still doesn't go against what i said about how most Jews are Successful/Educated.

The ones you know might be snobs or bitches or jerks. What does that have to do with education/success?

Sounds like you have beef with the religion of Judaism.

Originally posted by: Aimster
People hate Jews

14 million people who are very educated and successful.

People are jealous therefore they hate instead of learn.

We're to believe that nearly 99-100% of all Jews are successful and well educated, is that correct? Last I checked, you said there are approx. 14 million Jews. In the above you state 14 million people who are very educated and successful. By stating an absolute number, you just falsified your own statement because there are plenty of examples of Jews that are not well-educated and successful.
Hot dog! (don't try to reach out and grab the word Hot dog, its a figure of speech.

From your responses, you make us believe that you actually want to lift up the Jewish status through your "research" and statistics showing us that they are "well educated and successful". Its fine research I bet, but you're just furthering the stereotype that others use to target the Jews.

Clearly you shoved your own foot in your mouth yet the banter continues. Actually, this is my last post for this thread for I see no need to continue.



Originally posted by: DBL
You sound seriously insecure. Calling someone out for stating fact based statistics while then spouting your own anecdotal evidence in an effort to prove your own twisted generalization. Hypocrite, anyone?

Statistics gathered by whom? For that matter, when has any statistic been accurate? *cough* US Census *cough* :roll:
 

randumb

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Originally posted by: Bozono
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: Bozono
Originally posted by: Aimster
People hate Jews

14 million people who are very educated and successful.

People are jealous therefore they hate instead of learn.


14 million. Yeah, that's it.:roll:

There are only 14 million Jews.

Almost all of them are very educated. Education = Success.


There's a fvck of a lot more than 14 million jews in the World buddy. Guarancheese. I'd peg it at 150 mil.+ Don't be dumb.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_population

check your facts before you post
 

Bozono

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^^^^Well, fortunately I'm quite ignorant and don't buy into most of the World's supposed censuses(is that a word?)regardless.
 

Strk

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Originally posted by: ZOXXO
How did the term "the holocaust" come to being?

Were there not more non-jewish than jewish deaths during the period leading into and culminating WW2?

Just curious.

It means destroyed by fire, how do you think it worked out?

And yes, there were actually more deaths of non-Jews, but this was the single largest group, as well as on a scale that was unseen (The few that are higher are still debated on exact numbers and if they really count as genocide; the two that come to mind would be Mao and the forced famine of the Ukranians).

And not meaning to be callous, but a simple massacre, mass starvation or death march is easy, mechanizing it is not.
 

blakeatwork

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Originally posted by: Bozono
^^^^Well, fortunately I'm quite ignorant and don't buy into most of the World's supposed censuses(is that a word?)regardless.

Thanks for clearing that one up... I was a little unsure..
 

Captante

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Originally posted by: birdpup
Originally posted by: Aimster
People hate Jews

14 million people who are very educated and successful.

People are jealous therefore they hate instead of learn.

... 14 million people who are very educated and successful thieves and properly considered to be economic and societal parasites.

Me, jealous? No, just knowledgable.


OP's original question answered.
 

DBL

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Originally posted by: Atomicus
Statistics gathered by whom? For that matter, when has any statistic been accurate? *cough* US Census *cough* :roll:

Jews are disproportionately represented in areas considered the realm of the educated (i.e. Congress, Nobel Prize, etc.). How would you explain this? Jewish conspiracy? I much prefer the theory which points out the extreme importance attached to education by many Jews.

Is it wrong to say that Asians are proportionally better at math than average? It?s the same idea.
 

KingofCamelot

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Originally posted by: DBL
Originally posted by: Atomicus
Statistics gathered by whom? For that matter, when has any statistic been accurate? *cough* US Census *cough* :roll:

Jews are disproportionately represented in areas considered the realm of the educated (i.e. Congress, Nobel Prize, etc.). How would you explain this? Jewish conspiracy? I much prefer the theory which points out the extreme importance attached to education by many Jews.

Is it wrong to say that Asians are proportionally better at math than average? It?s the same idea.

Nothing wrong with saying that a majority are, but implying that all Jews are successful and well educated is stupid, because we all know they aren't ALL successful and well educated. Just like I pointed out earlier, just because a majority of Americans are overweight doesn't mean I can say that all Americans are fat, because that would be a stereotype.
 

Aimster

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I never meant to say all jews are successful and educated.

I am saying the majority are. A LARGE majority.

This is why they are hated. Even in small groups they seem to have a lot of power.
 
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Aight, kiddies.

Wally the Wandering Snail making a first post.
Welcome me with a warm hug.
I wouldn't mind a kiss or two from the foxy ladies!
If you make it three you might receive an unexpected visit from Jr.


The problem with the holocaust is that it did happen. The other problem is that Jews take it to heart. Jews were the one and the only ones who were ?criminalized? and ?vandalized? in the war. Correct? I hope so. But, what they seem to forget is everyone else. Poles (Polish folk) I think they?ve had it much worse than the Common Jew who flew out the chimney.

Imagine growing up in a war torn country constantly being reminded that you?re living in a graveyard turned wasteland. See, that ain?t purdy one bit. Now, how about those soldiers that gave their lives. They don?t count of course. They weren?t burnt, scorched nor even had the chance to fly out the chimney. They just were slaughtered, murdered and blown up into tiny bits. Those who survived have had to live for the rest of their lives with the horrors they witnessed. But do we care? No no no not one bit.

Jews, They?re the most important ones. If it weren?t for the holocaust you wouldn?t have discussions ending in; You hate Jews! You support Hitler! Go away!

You don?t have to be an Anti-Semite to hate the common Jew. Their snotty and snobby personality makes loving them ever so possible. I don?t hate Jew nor would I ever want to like one. The problem is that Jews much like many afro-americans abuse their freedom.

Jews use the holocaust excuse to get five dollars off of the matza ball soup at the nearby Dennys. Afro-Americans use slavery as an excuse for their right to steal, murder and behave oddly in public. Only criminalized folk that don?t abuse their freedom are Injuns and red faced Chinese. Injuns had their land stolen from them. Red faced Chinese were used as mining tools. And most of them aren?t holding a major grudge. Unlike them J O O?s

See, to forget such horror, the holocaust, would be impossible. But, to have your entire life revolve around the subject is, well rather idiotic. I don?t give a hoot who and how many Jews lost their shoes those many nights ago. They?re dead. But we should remember them. And that?s all we do. We remember them. The jews. Only the jews.
And that?s the main reason why we should forget the holocaust. It happened. But why should we be reminded of it every single day?

Vets, what do they get? A day off. They?re still soiling themselves. And Jews? Everyday is a holiday for them. That ain?t right. Jews get everything. It may be jealousy talking, but it would rather live in a Jew-free world than to walk into a kosher supermarket filled with snobby Jews looking down on me because I ain?t wearing a little hat covering my baldspot.


Hate me or love me it don't matter I ain't going to bed with you.
 

KingofCamelot

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Originally posted by: WallyTheWanderingSnail
Aight, kiddies.

Wally the Wandering Snail making a first post.
Welcome me with a warm hug.
I wouldn't mind a kiss or two from the foxy ladies!
If you make it three you might receive an unexpected visit from Jr.


The problem with the holocaust is that it did happen. The other problem is that Jews take it to heart. Jews were the one and the only ones who were ?criminalized? and ?vandalized? in the war. Correct? I hope so. But, what they seem to forget is everyone else. Poles (Polish folk) I think they?ve had it much worse than the Common Jew who flew out the chimney.

Imagine growing up in a war torn country constantly being reminded that you?re living in a graveyard turned wasteland. See, that ain?t purdy one bit. Now, how about those soldiers that gave their lives. They don?t count of course. They weren?t burnt, scorched nor even had the chance to fly out the chimney. They just were slaughtered, murdered and blown up into tiny bits. Those who survived have had to live for the rest of their lives with the horrors they witnessed. But do we care? No no no not one bit.

Jews, They?re the most important ones. If it weren?t for the holocaust you wouldn?t have discussions ending in; You hate Jews! You support Hitler! Go away!

You don?t have to be an Anti-Semite to hate the common Jew. Their snotty and snobby personality makes loving them ever so possible. I don?t hate Jew nor would I ever want to like one. The problem is that Jews much like many afro-americans abuse their freedom.

Jews use the holocaust excuse to get five dollars off of the matza ball soup at the nearby Dennys. Afro-Americans use slavery as an excuse for their right to steal, murder and behave oddly in public. Only criminalized folk that don?t abuse their freedom are Injuns and red faced Chinese. Injuns had their land stolen from them. Red faced Chinese were used as mining tools. And most of them aren?t holding a major grudge. Unlike them J O O?s

See, to forget such horror, the holocaust, would be impossible. But, to have your entire life revolve around the subject is, well rather idiotic. I don?t give a hoot who and how many Jews lost their shoes those many nights ago. They?re dead. But we should remember them. And that?s all we do. We remember them. The jews. Only the jews.
And that?s the main reason why we should forget the holocaust. It happened. But why should we be reminded of it every single day?

Vets, what do they get? A day off. They?re still soiling themselves. And Jews? Everyday is a holiday for them. That ain?t right. Jews get everything. It may be jealousy talking, but it would rather live in a Jew-free world than to walk into a kosher supermarket filled with snobby Jews looking down on me because I ain?t wearing a little hat covering my baldspot.


Hate me or love me it don't matter I ain't going to bed with you.

S-t-e-r-e-o-t-y-p-i-n-g. All the Jews I know are not treated differently, mainly because they don't flaunt the fact that they are Jewish. Sounds to me like you've just had some experiences with arrogant Jews. Every religion has its crazies, and Judaism is no exception. Finally, I wish people would stop grouping Jews. Jews do this, Jews do that, Jews are this, Jews are that. Jews are people too, damn it. Can we stop making them fit in a tiny box that we can label and categorize? Just like everyone else, Jews come in all shapes a sizes, and you need to just accept them for who they are.
 

DBL

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Originally posted by: WallyTheWanderingSnail
Aight, kiddies.

Wally the Wandering Snail making a first post.
Welcome me with a warm hug.
I wouldn't mind a kiss or two from the foxy ladies!
If you make it three you might receive an unexpected visit from Jr.


The problem with the holocaust is that it did happen. The other problem is that Jews take it to heart. Jews were the one and the only ones who were ?criminalized? and ?vandalized? in the war. Correct? I hope so. But, what they seem to forget is everyone else. Poles (Polish folk) I think they?ve had it much worse than the Common Jew who flew out the chimney.

Imagine growing up in a war torn country constantly being reminded that you?re living in a graveyard turned wasteland. See, that ain?t purdy one bit. Now, how about those soldiers that gave their lives. They don?t count of course. They weren?t burnt, scorched nor even had the chance to fly out the chimney. They just were slaughtered, murdered and blown up into tiny bits. Those who survived have had to live for the rest of their lives with the horrors they witnessed. But do we care? No no no not one bit.

Jews, They?re the most important ones. If it weren?t for the holocaust you wouldn?t have discussions ending in; You hate Jews! You support Hitler! Go away!

You don?t have to be an Anti-Semite to hate the common Jew. Their snotty and snobby personality makes loving them ever so possible. I don?t hate Jew nor would I ever want to like one. The problem is that Jews much like many afro-americans abuse their freedom.

Jews use the holocaust excuse to get five dollars off of the matza ball soup at the nearby Dennys. Afro-Americans use slavery as an excuse for their right to steal, murder and behave oddly in public. Only criminalized folk that don?t abuse their freedom are Injuns and red faced Chinese. Injuns had their land stolen from them. Red faced Chinese were used as mining tools. And most of them aren?t holding a major grudge. Unlike them J O O?s

See, to forget such horror, the holocaust, would be impossible. But, to have your entire life revolve around the subject is, well rather idiotic. I don?t give a hoot who and how many Jews lost their shoes those many nights ago. They?re dead. But we should remember them. And that?s all we do. We remember them. The jews. Only the jews.
And that?s the main reason why we should forget the holocaust. It happened. But why should we be reminded of it every single day?

Vets, what do they get? A day off. They?re still soiling themselves. And Jews? Everyday is a holiday for them. That ain?t right. Jews get everything. It may be jealousy talking, but it would rather live in a Jew-free world than to walk into a kosher supermarket filled with snobby Jews looking down on me because I ain?t wearing a little hat covering my baldspot.


Hate me or love me it don't matter I ain't going to bed with you.

Did this thread make it onto www.heilhitler.com?
 

envy me

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To answer the OP about why so many people claim to deny the holocaust, I think all people could be classified into 3 categoris, People that beleive it happened, people that don't beleive it happened, and people that beleive it happened but not the way we hear about it (less than 6 million killed)

Most of the stuff we hear about the holocaust, we've learned from, Television, school, other media and family, but I would bet that very few people actually have first hand knowledge of the facts.

Also there are numerous people being charged with holocaust denial, Ernst Zundel being one of those. What I find suspicious is, ok, the holocaust did happen, yet they choose to take a man to court because he denies it and makes books about it not happening. I mean, I haven't heard of anyone going to jail for writing books saying Elvis is still alive, or that nobody landed on the moon. It just seems that by charging these people, that there is something that some organizations don't want out IMO.

Also, I find how the jew's (most of whom have not even stepped foot anywhere near where the holocaust happened) always seem to use this to their advantage somehow to muster sympathy.

Antisemite used to mean somebody who didn't like jews
Now an Antisemite is someone who jews don't like.

And what is with the whole antisemite crap anyways. The word itself is racist. What is racism of blacks called, or racism of muslims, or racism of other nationalities or religions. It's called racism! It's very ignorant how you can classify racism of one group over another as a completely different word. Racism is Racism, you don't need your own word to make your cause sound any more important.



 
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Honey, KingofCamelot.

You've read me all wrong.

See, I live in a Jewish area of Toronto. That?s in Ontario which is in lovely Canada.
The area, which I live in, is rich with Jews. All kinds of Jews; round Jews, square Jews, queer Jews, little Jews, big Jews and heck even red haired big nosed Jews.

It?s very diverse as you can see. So my sight of the Common Jew isn?t as askew as you might think. I don?t just have some awkward and unkind experiences with Jews once in a while. It?s every single day.

As an example;
They cut in line and they snob at you.
I ask you, honey what do you exactly say to a Jew who cuts you in line? (Without being yelled at then faced with a lawsuit of course)
There?s nothing you can say. Jews can get away with murder. No one would ever raise their finger on a Jew. Same thing goes for afro-americans.

It is a fact that the most racist kind is the Jew-kind and afro-american-kind.
It?s also another fact that Jews have no respect for anyone who isn?t Jewish.

Another example;
Try being Christian looking for business. A well dressed Jew approaches your company and asks for a Jew to talk to. You don?t have one because you haven?t hired one yet. And you watch your business walk out the door. It?s true and it happens all over. Jews will only make business with Jews. No one else.

Another lovley fact; Jews only stick together.

Now, look at what is happening in North America. There is no Christmas anymore. It?s just holidays. What about Chanukah? It?s still there. The menorah is all nice and sparkly-like, but the Christmas three is denied its Christmassy spirit.

You tell me that it?s ok? Jews are controlling the world. Sure, it means that Jews are successful, but they?re getting away with stealing Christmas. They?re getting away with everything. Remember Passion of the Christ? I?m sure you don?t since you?re Jewish. But Mel ?The Aussie? Gibson couldn't release it. Why? Because Jews said no. And when he did finally released it. What happened? I?m sure you remember that now. A lot of Jews hated the movie. Hated the fact that it was indeed released.


Now, don?t get all angry at me. I?m just stating facts.

Another fact that the most hated Jew is the stereotypical Jew. And as anotherb little fact stereotypical Jews cover more than 75% of all Jews.

Yes, there are some normal Jews who you wouldn?t mind chillin? with after a nice hockey game, but rarely do you see that. Heck, you rarely do see a Jew participating in any sport.


Now, DBL,

You?re such a sweetheart. Saying I support Hitler and Nazis because my post reeked of Anti-Semitism. But, in fact it reeked only of truth.

See here;
A good Jew is a dead Jew. That?s anti-Semitic.
A good Jew is a Jew who?s Jewish, but doesn?t abuse his rights as a Jew. Is not anti-Semitic.

What happened in the past happened in the past. It should stay there.
If Jews only care for their kind then denounce WW2 all together. They don?t care about the soldiers who freed them. They don?t care about soldiers who died trying to free them. They just care about themselves. And that's a fact!